Need so much guidance

[manchestermatt1986]

Hi, i am new to the site and been boxing with intent to get in the ring for a match for 6 month approx. I am 26 and was 15 stone now 14 and still dropping. I am a member of two boxing clubs and upto sparring level now but i seem to get beat.....alot. I seem to take punches alot better than give them. I havent been knocked down or scared yet but i dont seem to connect alot with my own.

Because im fresh and new, older and hopefully a little wiser. I want to learn the 'best' way with a fresh clean canvas for me to build up knowledge.

From everyone on here knowledge, i expect people can tell me what they would have done if they coul;d go back and start a fresh

Please can you guide me towards info that will help me.

Thank you

[Andre]

I dont know, everyone is different.

Get the basics down exact, then forget them.

Dont let your overprotective guard get in the way of your freedom to punch fast or react,loosen up once you are good enough to do so and go on instinct.


Meanwhile know your strengths and also know your weaknesses, height,stocky,long reach,shorter reach than most,fast feet or a strong plodder,flexible easy to stay on balance,fixed easy to catch out of position? The mixtures are many, strengthen the weaknesses as you know how through training and technique eventually you design your style to utilize what you got in every varying situation. Study people who have made it who remind you of you. Have fun in there try to relax into that perfect middle ground or you'll tense up and use up to much oxygen.

[SugarBoxing]

Hi, i am new to the site and been boxing with intent to get in the ring for a match for 6 month approx. I am 26 and was 15 stone now 14 and still dropping. I am a member of two boxing clubs and upto sparring level now but i seem to get beat.....alot. I seem to take punches alot better than give them. I havent been knocked down or scared yet but i dont seem to connect alot with my own.

Because im fresh and new, older and hopefully a little wiser. I want to learn the 'best' way with a fresh clean canvas for me to build up knowledge.

From everyone on here knowledge, i expect people can tell me what they would have done if they coul;d go back and start a fresh

Please can you guide me towards info that will help me.

Thank you

Read books on boxing like:
Erwin L Haislet

Jack Dempsey

I want to aslo advertise my website, which is based on these books and represents them in a better way, with animated gifs. The link is in my porfile or PM for it

[manchestermatt1986]

Thankyou both for the replys. I'm going to read the books tonight/tomorrow.

When you say basics are you talking about main punches and footwork. I'm short stocky with a smaller reach. I found when sparring I much prefer being on the inside but take a lot of blows getting there. Which sometimes hurts because I'm not quick, flexible or skilled enough to slip and dodge in

[greynotsoold]

Thankyou both for the replys. I'm going to read the books tonight/tomorrow.

When you say basics are you talking about main punches and footwork. I'm short stocky with a smaller reach. I found when sparring I much prefer being on the inside but take a lot of blows getting there. Which sometimes hurts because I'm not quick, flexible or skilled enough to slip and dodge in

Learn the punches and how to move around- getting your feet right is the most esstial element of boxing-then learn how to slip. When you are learning to slip, always counter, always punch back.
Slipping, ducking and parrying punches, when combined with proper footwork, are how you get in close without eating punches.

[manchestermatt1986]

Im half way throu the first book from the above link and taking my time to read it and digest what its saying. I can see now why starting at a young age is so important to get it like second nature. When i was younger i used to skateboard alot and the main and hardest thing to master was the ollie. Everything is done from that and once people can slightly do it they rush to move onto the next thing which means there always held back because they never truly learnt to ollie naturally and properly.

I have a fitness gym at my disposle and can go every day, there are no bags or ring but i have weights and squash courts to move around in. I have been spending hours just go backwards and forwards, side to side, pivoting.

If any of you veterans had the chance to go back and start all a fresh, what would you tell me to completely master before moving on.

On another subject i was sparring the other day with a friend who i havent seen for ages and it hit me that i have come along quiet abit, not in a bigheaded way but i was better for sure. but one thing i still have problems with is how much power to put in when sparring, i aim to basically tig/tag the guy but when we get abit closer its hard to thow 3/4 punch combos with out power because im trying to use speed aswell as pivoting/twisting to punch from the legs.

[greynotsoold]

First- the first thing I would do, and would suggest you do- is learn how to punch properly. Learn all your punches and to throw good combinations WITHOUT moving your feet, without stepping. Learn to generate power and maintain balance just by shifting the weight on your feet. When you can do that, and start learning to move, it will make sense and come easier.
Second, understand that good footwork has fuck all to do with skipping about the ring. Early in his career, Sugar Ray Robinson epitomized the science of wasted movement- Ali had a PhD in the same science. Watch guys like Buddy McGirt and Julio Cesar Chavez and Albert Davila to learn how to move effectively.

[SugarBoxing]

Im half way throu the first book from the above link and taking my time to read it and digest what its saying. I can see now why starting at a young age is so important to get it like second nature. When i was younger i used to skateboard alot and the main and hardest thing to master was the ollie. Everything is done from that and once people can slightly do it they rush to move onto the next thing which means there always held back because they never truly learnt to ollie naturally and properly.

I have a fitness gym at my disposle and can go every day, there are no bags or ring but i have weights and squash courts to move around in. I have been spending hours just go backwards and forwards, side to side, pivoting.

If any of you veterans had the chance to go back and start all a fresh, what would you tell me to completely master before moving on.

On another subject i was sparring the other day with a friend who i havent seen for ages and it hit me that i have come along quiet abit, not in a bigheaded way but i was better for sure. but one thing i still have problems with is how much power to put in when sparring, i aim to basically tig/tag the guy but when we get abit closer its hard to thow 3/4 punch combos with out power because im trying to use speed aswell as pivoting/twisting to punch from the legs.

Remember to follow your dream and pray to God for talent
This is ALL you need

[cambay411]

Hi, i am new to the site and been boxing with intent to get in the ring for a match for 6 month approx. I am 26 and was 15 stone now 14 and still dropping. I am a member of two boxing clubs and upto sparring level now but i seem to get beat.....alot. I seem to take punches alot better than give them. I havent been knocked down or scared yet but i dont seem to connect alot with my own.

Because im fresh and new, older and hopefully a little wiser. I want to learn the 'best' way with a fresh clean canvas for me to build up knowledge.

From everyone on here knowledge, i expect people can tell me what they would have done if they coul;d go back and start a fresh

Please can you guide me towards info that will help me.

Thank you

For right now being comfortable in the ring is the main thing. As long as you know what to expect for the most part. Do you ever get any hard sparring in?

As far as being able to take punches better than giving them, some people are like that when sparring. I think it stems from being timid about punching training partners/friends. Some can tear up in the gym while sparring but shut down in a fight. Others shut down while sparring but they tear up in fights.

Just make sure you keep your defense tight so your blocking punches and not actually eating them. If you have a tight defense I would say your about ready. If your actually getting hit you need some work. Only you (and your coach, but mainly you) will know if your ready.

[manchestermatt1986]

Hi, i am new to the site and been boxing with intent to get in the ring for a match for 6 month approx. I am 26 and was 15 stone now 14 and still dropping. I am a member of two boxing clubs and upto sparring level now but i seem to get beat.....alot. I seem to take punches alot better than give them. I havent been knocked down or scared yet but i dont seem to connect alot with my own.

Because im fresh and new, older and hopefully a little wiser. I want to learn the 'best' way with a fresh clean canvas for me to build up knowledge.

From everyone on here knowledge, i expect people can tell me what they would have done if they coul;d go back and start a fresh

Please can you guide me towards info that will help me.

Thank you

For right now being comfortable in the ring is the main thing. As long as you know what to expect for the most part. Do you ever get any hard sparring in?

As far as being able to take punches better than giving them, some people are like that when sparring. I think it stems from being timid about punching training partners/friends. Some can tear up in the gym while sparring but shut down in a fight. Others shut down while sparring but they tear up in fights.

Just make sure you keep your defense tight so your blocking punches and not actually eating them. If you have a tight defense I would say your about ready. If your actually getting hit you need some work. Only you (and your coach, but mainly you) will know if your ready.

i hope to god im the timid sparring guy and tear up in the fight. Some one once asked me "are you scared to hit them incase they hit you back harder cause there better" and i replied with "i know they can hit me harder BECAUSE they are better, i respect them and dont want them thinking im trying to prove something, i want to learn but without eating shit constantly cause im trying" thats how i feel when i spar. I look at the guy whos been doing it years and is probably younger than me and i know he's a good boxer, better than me, i want to learn from him and try and hit him but i dont want to land stuff and in return get my face smashed in just so remind me hes better, i already know that.

so my answer is no, i dont get hard sparring in alot. i was just about getting comfortable with being in the ring before i got my tooth knocked out

[cambay411]

Hi, i am new to the site and been boxing with intent to get in the ring for a match for 6 month approx. I am 26 and was 15 stone now 14 and still dropping. I am a member of two boxing clubs and upto sparring level now but i seem to get beat.....alot. I seem to take punches alot better than give them. I havent been knocked down or scared yet but i dont seem to connect alot with my own.

Because im fresh and new, older and hopefully a little wiser. I want to learn the 'best' way with a fresh clean canvas for me to build up knowledge.

From everyone on here knowledge, i expect people can tell me what they would have done if they coul;d go back and start a fresh

Please can you guide me towards info that will help me.

Thank you

For right now being comfortable in the ring is the main thing. As long as you know what to expect for the most part. Do you ever get any hard sparring in?

As far as being able to take punches better than giving them, some people are like that when sparring. I think it stems from being timid about punching training partners/friends. Some can tear up in the gym while sparring but shut down in a fight. Others shut down while sparring but they tear up in fights.

Just make sure you keep your defense tight so your blocking punches and not actually eating them. If you have a tight defense I would say your about ready. If your actually getting hit you need some work. Only you (and your coach, but mainly you) will know if your ready.

i hope to god im the timid sparring guy and tear up in the fight. Some one once asked me "are you scared to hit them incase they hit you back harder cause there better" and i replied with "i know they can hit me harder BECAUSE they are better, i respect them and dont want them thinking im trying to prove something, i want to learn but without eating shit constantly cause im trying" thats how i feel when i spar. I look at the guy whos been doing it years and is probably younger than me and i know he's a good boxer, better than me, i want to learn from him and try and hit him but i dont want to land stuff and in return get my face smashed in just so remind me hes better, i already know that.

so my answer is no, i dont get hard sparring in alot. i was just about getting comfortable with being in the ring before i got my tooth knocked out

No need for a lot of hard sparring. imo light sparring is best for working on technique and skills. When you have two people going light, neither have to worry about the getting hit factor therefore both are working on pure skill.

This of course gets you ready for hard sparring, which will get you used to getting hit and hitting back. But it all starts with working on your skills while light sparring.

Dont worry so much about landing a good shot and them coming back harder to prove a point. Thats just something you cant worry about in boxing in a fight or sparring. Does this happen, yes it does. But as long as your not throwing full power and not just unloading punches on someone than you should be ok. If they come back and get a few good shots in, its all in good measure. Afterall its Boxing, thats what happens.

If your eating punches, it sound to me like you need to tighten up your defense. Try out a basic peek a boo stance. I think its awesome for blocking punches especially for beginners. Keep your hands up and elbows nice and tight. Snap your hands back into position after every punch.

When you throw a punch dont keep your head in the middle and keep your chin tucked. Work on landing straight punches until you start to learn how to set punches up. Work the jab.

Some of this might help or it might not. Its hard to say without being there.

[manchestermatt1986]

I appreciate all your comments, I'm with my trainer at 10.30 tomorrow so I'll see how I get on. I also went to a Kung-fu class with a friend who goes all the time on Monday and told him my aim is to have my first amateur bout this year and he says he can help too with certain things. Will help me with stances, fighting southpar and also the snap and punching from the entire body, he mentioned jack Dempsey a few times, sounds promising

Also going to set up a mini gym in a mates garage. Bag, speedball and double end ball

[cambay411]

I appreciate all your comments, I'm with my trainer at 10.30 tomorrow so I'll see how I get on. I also went to a Kung-fu class with a friend who goes all the time on Monday and told him my aim is to have my first amateur bout this year and he says he can help too with certain things. Will help me with stances, fighting southpar and also the snap and punching from the entire body, he mentioned jack Dempsey a few times, sounds promising

Also going to set up a mini gym in a mates garage. Bag, speedball and double end ball

A small exercise that can help with putting snap on your punches.... (Bare with me lol)


Get into your stance.

Square up to a wall (I find doorways and places like that work best so you can line up to the wall as needed for each punch).

Extend your right as if your punching, put your open hand on the wall, push using your hips and shoulders. Hold the flex.

You can do this simulating the jab or hooks as well. It works and stretches the muscles you use to snap those punches.

I hope you understand that as it is described badly lol. I actually learned this from some info someone gave me on here. Would like to give credit where its due but I cant remember who it was.