Ok Calzaghe Haters What Does He Need To Do In Jones Fight To Get Respect!

[Drago]

suppose its more imporant RJJ respects JC than all the JC Haters, RJJ said he will be fighting the fastest puncher he ever met and Hopkins also respects JC. thats much more important!

[kingfrnk]

seems people thnk calzaghe didnt meet anyone decent in his defences, is the thought he should of been in the states years ago defending?because that is bollocks, dont remember RJJ or b-hop defending in britain!

Since when has Britain been the hotbed of World boxing ever ?
THAT COMMENT IS BOLLOCKS.

ha ha sorry man that came accross wrong, i meant that american fighters often never defend outta america, not that i think they should defend in briatain all the time. plus hatton & calzaghe get crowds off 55,000+ in britain, thats impressive dont u think?

yea its impressive but u must remember that hatton and JC are the only most popular fighters in all of Britian. so its much easier to draw a bigger when those are the most popular guys in the country. but america has alot of popular fighters but theres too many fights here.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Whatever that gay-off thing was, it was gay in and of itself. Whoever feels that it is important to hold a popularity contest or unpopularity contest based on a forum is gay. I think you can give Calzaghe credit for how he did against Hopkins for sure, but saying he beat Hopkins clearly is wrong because he didn't, even having him win by 1 round doesn't overcome the fact that Hopkins is 43 all other acclompishments included. That fight helped Calzaghe's credentials for sure, but it also didn't because IMO it shows that Hopkins prime for prime was the better man, and this fight will be meaningless as well because of Roy even looks half decent IMO will show he would be the better man prime for prime, and if Roy wins then Calzaghe looks like a fool, which also doesn't give him due credit because he is a good fighter, but in terms of all time greatness he is more on Mosley or Dela HOya's level.

Hey man... You won the gay-off be proud.

All this prime for prime talk... It's a moot point... They were both different fighters in the beginning of their primes... TOTALLY different style for sure with Calzaghe cracking more and not slapping pitty pat flurries to astound the judges and Hopkins being a more agressive fighter who was a good finisher(Course Hop looked like his old self this fight).

Stating Hopkins is 43 is also moot at this point. We all know that a boxer is only as old as the amount of punishment he has sustained over the course of his or her career. Hopkins is not an "old" fighter and shouldn't be looked at that way as that was dispelled and blatantly apparent in this fight...

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Since when has Britain been the hotbed of World boxing ever ?
THAT COMMENT IS BOLLOCKS.

ha ha sorry man that came accross wrong, i meant that american fighters often never defend outta america, not that i think they should defend in briatain all the time. plus hatton & calzaghe get crowds off 55,000+ in britain, thats impressive dont u think?

yea its impressive but u must remember that hatton and JC are the only most popular fighters in all of Britian. so its much easier to draw a bigger when those are the most popular guys in the country. but america has alot of popular fighters but theres too many fights here.

Mmmm, but there is still no fighter in the US that can draw a 55k crowd barring ODLH even if the fight was free...

[kingfrnk]

Whatever that gay-off thing was, it was gay in and of itself. Whoever feels that it is important to hold a popularity contest or unpopularity contest based on a forum is gay. I think you can give Calzaghe credit for how he did against Hopkins for sure, but saying he beat Hopkins clearly is wrong because he didn't, even having him win by 1 round doesn't overcome the fact that Hopkins is 43 all other acclompishments included. That fight helped Calzaghe's credentials for sure, but it also didn't because IMO it shows that Hopkins prime for prime was the better man, and this fight will be meaningless as well because of Roy even looks half decent IMO will show he would be the better man prime for prime, and if Roy wins then Calzaghe looks like a fool, which also doesn't give him due credit because he is a good fighter, but in terms of all time greatness he is more on Mosley or Dela HOya's level.

Hey man... You won the gay-off be proud.

All this prime for prime talk... It's a moot point... They were both different fighters in the beginning of their primes... TOTALLY different style for sure with Calzaghe cracking more and not slapping pitty pat flurries to astound the judges and Hopkins being a more agressive fighter who was a good finisher(Course Hop looked like his old self this fight).

Stating Hopkins is 43 is also moot at this point. We all know that a boxer is only as old as the amount of punishment he has sustained over the course of his or her career. Hopkins is not an "old" fighter and shouldn't be looked at that way as that was dispelled and blatantly apparent in this fight...

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

was i in the gay off or are u gonna make me wait til i have a 1000 posts to find out

[Gandalf]

ha ha sorry man that came accross wrong, i meant that american fighters often never defend outta america, not that i think they should defend in briatain all the time. plus hatton & calzaghe get crowds off 55,000+ in britain, thats impressive dont u think?

yea its impressive but u must remember that hatton and JC are the only most popular fighters in all of Britian. so its much easier to draw a bigger when those are the most popular guys in the country. but america has alot of popular fighters but theres too many fights here.

Mmmm, but there is still no fighter in the US that can draw a 55k crowd barring ODLH even if the fight was free...

Exactly. The pulling power they have is immense regardless of where they are from.

[kingfrnk]

ha ha sorry man that came accross wrong, i meant that american fighters often never defend outta america, not that i think they should defend in briatain all the time. plus hatton & calzaghe get crowds off 55,000+ in britain, thats impressive dont u think?

yea its impressive but u must remember that hatton and JC are the only most popular fighters in all of Britian. so its much easier to draw a bigger when those are the most popular guys in the country. but america has alot of popular fighters but theres too many fights here.

Mmmm, but there is still no fighter in the US that can draw a 55k crowd barring ODLH even if the fight was free...

True but america has so many fighters like, pavlik, bhop, taylor, shane mosley, roy jones, even tarver. but american cant all go to there fights because theres just to many. but when you have JC and hatton having 4-6 fights a year its much easier to support them since its not that many fights.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Whatever that gay-off thing was, it was gay in and of itself. Whoever feels that it is important to hold a popularity contest or unpopularity contest based on a forum is gay. I think you can give Calzaghe credit for how he did against Hopkins for sure, but saying he beat Hopkins clearly is wrong because he didn't, even having him win by 1 round doesn't overcome the fact that Hopkins is 43 all other acclompishments included. That fight helped Calzaghe's credentials for sure, but it also didn't because IMO it shows that Hopkins prime for prime was the better man, and this fight will be meaningless as well because of Roy even looks half decent IMO will show he would be the better man prime for prime, and if Roy wins then Calzaghe looks like a fool, which also doesn't give him due credit because he is a good fighter, but in terms of all time greatness he is more on Mosley or Dela HOya's level.

Hey man... You won the gay-off be proud.

All this prime for prime talk... It's a moot point... They were both different fighters in the beginning of their primes... TOTALLY different style for sure with Calzaghe cracking more and not slapping pitty pat flurries to astound the judges and Hopkins being a more agressive fighter who was a good finisher(Course Hop looked like his old self this fight).

Stating Hopkins is 43 is also moot at this point. We all know that a boxer is only as old as the amount of punishment he has sustained over the course of his or her career. Hopkins is not an "old" fighter and shouldn't be looked at that way as that was dispelled and blatantly apparent in this fight...

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

was i in the gay off or are u gonna make me wait til i have a 1000 posts to find out

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[kingfrnk]

Hey man... You won the gay-off be proud.

All this prime for prime talk... It's a moot point... They were both different fighters in the beginning of their primes... TOTALLY different style for sure with Calzaghe cracking more and not slapping pitty pat flurries to astound the judges and Hopkins being a more agressive fighter who was a good finisher(Course Hop looked like his old self this fight).

Stating Hopkins is 43 is also moot at this point. We all know that a boxer is only as old as the amount of punishment he has sustained over the course of his or her career. Hopkins is not an "old" fighter and shouldn't be looked at that way as that was dispelled and blatantly apparent in this fight...

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

was i in the gay off or are u gonna make me wait til i have a 1000 posts to find out

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DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

was i in the gay off or are u gonna make me wait til i have a 1000 posts to find out

234 posts to go

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taeth won by a landslide... no worries

[Gandalf]

yea its impressive but u must remember that hatton and JC are the only most popular fighters in all of Britian. so its much easier to draw a bigger when those are the most popular guys in the country. but america has alot of popular fighters but theres too many fights here.

Mmmm, but there is still no fighter in the US that can draw a 55k crowd barring ODLH even if the fight was free...

True but america has so many fighters like, pavlik, bhop, taylor, shane mosley, roy jones, even tarver. but american cant all go to there fights because theres just to many. but when you have JC and hatton having 4-6 fights a year its much easier to support them since its not that many fights.

Think about the respective population sizes of the US and the UK and then think about the comparative numbers of notable fighters from each country. The numbers are pretty comparable really. There is a reason Pavlik and Hopkins didnt fight in a US stadium. Two top level fighters, but it wouldnt have sold out.

But (and this is an edit) of course, the UK is a tiny place in comparison. But I dont think American fighters generally have the same level of support in terms of going out and supporting their fighter.

[kingfrnk]

234 posts to go

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taeth won by a landslide... no worries

SWEET!!!

[Drago]

Mmmm, but there is still no fighter in the US that can draw a 55k crowd barring ODLH even if the fight was free...

True but america has so many fighters like, pavlik, bhop, taylor, shane mosley, roy jones, even tarver. but american cant all go to there fights because theres just to many. but when you have JC and hatton having 4-6 fights a year its much easier to support them since its not that many fights.

Think about the respective population sizes of the US and the UK and then think about the comparative numbers of notable fighters from each country. The numbers are pretty comparable really. There is a reason Pavlik and Hopkins didnt fight in a US stadium. Two top level fighters, but it wouldnt have sold out.

But (and this is an edit) of course, the UK is a tiny place in comparison. But I dont think American fighters generally have the same level of support in terms of going out and supporting their fighter.

anyone know what the biggest american crowd has turned up outta the USA? I have a feelin it wont be very hight, think hatton got abt 30,000 brits traveling to Vegas for the mayweather fight

[LondonBB]

My thoughts on it:

He can never gain respect from the haters.

The haters are just that, HATERS! They will hate him whatever he does.

1. He fights lacy, the haters are screaming how lacy will bash him out the ring, he batters him.

2. He fights kessler, the haters are relishing the thought of kessler outboxing and overwhelming calzaghe, calzaghe nullifies him and finishes it with ease.

3. He fights hopkins (the same hopkins who bashed the sh1t out of pavlik, tarver and wright), the haters say he will get ko'd by hopkins, he has hopkins gassing for air after the 8th round and wins the fight.

Even if you take away his other career wins, take away the fact he is the longest champion in the history of the sport still boxing today, take away the fact hes a 2 weight champ, and just look at those 3 things...NORMALLY its enough for any true boxing fan to say 'yeah hes a wicked fighter.'

But the fact remains, they dont.

The reason for this is very sad.

Instead of being 'reasonable' and 'balanced' people and saying 'i dont like calzaghes style because he is too unorthadox and i dont like his swinging punches, but you have to give him respect for what hes achieved' (any true boxing fan would say this)...they just hate him.

Im relishing the prospect of seeing the haters sitting at home cursing their tv screens when they see calzaghe coming into the ring against jones, the haters praying from calzaghe to lose...but once again, like very single time he has ever been doubted, he'll win!

And then as predicted, we will have the same threads all over again and again, the same people saying how they still dont rate calzaghe (as predicted), over and over again lol.

To be honest, as for the way he fights, id much rather see him go all out against jones and drop him.

Everyone has said that theres a prospect that 'calzaghe could look good enough to maybe have done well against jones at his peak'...

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA its as if even if calzaghe wins, it automatically still means that jones was better at his peak PMSL, JOKERS!

If calzaghe wins then it means that of course he couldve given a peak roy jones a run for his money.

If calzaghe easily wins then it means HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BEAT A PEAK ROY JONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

But...it all means nothing, calzaghe will fight jones and win, then he might have one more fight...possibly a rematch against hopkins and win again.

But even if calzaghe beats jones and hopkins (twice) then the haters will still say that they are better than him...WHAT BACKWARDS WAY OF THINKING IS THAT? LOL!

The guy cant do anything to gain respect from haters. AND THATS EXACTLY WHY I SUPPORT HIM!

Because i love to see the same people get silenced time and time again, then come up with more excuses and arguments lol.

When you look at the facts they are plain and simple:

If calzaghe beats jones then the guy is 48,0,0 anyone who cant respect that is a bit of a muppet really arent they?

Hes beaten hopkins (THE SAME OLD HOPKINS WHO HAS HAD HIS BEST CAREER WINS EVER AT THIS AGE, BASHING UP WRIGHT, TARVER AND PAVLIK), eubank, lacy, reid and kessler...soon to be jones.

Undefeated champ for over 11 years.

2 weight champ.

People will keep hating him, but the bottom line is that he will go down in history as a legend, esspecially after he bashes roy jones, we will then know exactly WHY ROY JONES AVOIDED HIM!

[Dark Lord Al]

My thoughts on it:

He can never gain respect from the haters.

The haters are just that, HATERS! They will hate him whatever he does.

1. He fights lacy, the haters are screaming how lacy will bash him out the ring, he batters him.

2. He fights kessler, the haters are relishing the thought of kessler outboxing and overwhelming calzaghe, calzaghe nullifies him and finishes it with ease.

3. He fights hopkins (the same hopkins who bashed the sh1t out of pavlik, tarver and wright), the haters say he will get ko'd by hopkins, he has hopkins gassing for air after the 8th round and wins the fight.

Even if you take away his other career wins, take away the fact he is the longest champion in the history of the sport still boxing today, take away the fact hes a 2 weight champ, and just look at those 3 things...NORMALLY its enough for any true boxing fan to say 'yeah hes a wicked fighter.'

But the fact remains, they dont.

The reason for this is very sad.

Instead of being 'reasonable' and 'balanced' people and saying 'i dont like calzaghes style because he is too unorthadox and i dont like his swinging punches, but you have to give him respect for what hes achieved' (any true boxing fan would say this)...they just hate him.

Im relishing the prospect of seeing the haters sitting at home cursing their tv screens when they see calzaghe coming into the ring against jones, the haters praying from calzaghe to lose...but once again, like very single time he has ever been doubted, he'll win!

And then as predicted, we will have the same threads all over again and again, the same people saying how they still dont rate calzaghe (as predicted), over and over again lol.

To be honest, as for the way he fights, id much rather see him go all out against jones and drop him.

Everyone has said that theres a prospect that 'calzaghe could look good enough to maybe have done well against jones at his peak'...

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA its as if even if calzaghe wins, it automatically still means that jones was better at his peak PMSL, JOKERS!

If calzaghe wins then it means that of course he couldve given a peak roy jones a run for his money.

If calzaghe easily wins then it means HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BEAT A PEAK ROY JONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

But...it all means nothing, calzaghe will fight jones and win, then he might have one more fight...possibly a rematch against hopkins and win again.

But even if calzaghe beats jones and hopkins (twice) then the haters will still say that they are better than him...WHAT BACKWARDS WAY OF THINKING IS THAT? LOL!

The guy cant do anything to gain respect from haters. AND THATS EXACTLY WHY I SUPPORT HIM!

Because i love to see the same people get silenced time and time again, then come up with more excuses and arguments lol.

When you look at the facts they are plain and simple:

If calzaghe beats jones then the guy is 48,0,0 anyone who cant respect that is a bit of a muppet really arent they?

Hes beaten hopkins (THE SAME OLD HOPKINS WHO HAS HAD HIS BEST CAREER WINS EVER AT THIS AGE, BASHING UP WRIGHT, TARVER AND PAVLIK), eubank, lacy, reid and kessler...soon to be jones.

Undefeated champ for over 11 years.

2 weight champ.

People will keep hating him, but the bottom line is that he will go down in history as a legend, esspecially after he bashes roy jones, we will then know exactly WHY ROY JONES AVOIDED HIM!

You are entiltled to your average opinion , as for Calzaghe ever being on the level of a prime RJJ , dont make me laugh.
Stick to bodybuilding , and for the record i HATE calzaghe , but i respect him as a fighter , i just dont think hes ATG.