Frank Warren - "Haye pulled out due to money"

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Does anyone really blame Haye for this or should he have just gone ahead with it?

‘He had a Setanta problem. He asked for the money up front and they wouldn’t pay him. I know that for a fact.’ However, Warren does not promote Haye........

Frank Warren: Haye pulled out due to money

[DatsiK]

Frank is such a tit.. I swear he makes it his mission to make up as much shit possible about fighters that aren't signed to him or fighters that have recently broke off from him.. true or not, frank shouldn't be going around speaking this shit he has no proof of, especially not about a fellow brit.

Why don't you put a fucking sock in it frank...

[Kel]

It all makes sense now but why bullshit about a bad back? It was going to be known eventually.

[GuyIncognito76]

I've always suspected this; can't blame Haye for not want to risk fighting Klitch for free.

[Tysonbruno]

If he pulled his back fair enough and if he werent getting paid then same again cant blame him for pulling out and perhaps he said bad back because if he said because setanta werent paying him it would highlight the fact even more that they are done for. But if i was David i would have fought for free because if he had won which i believe he would it would open so many financial doors so he would win all round.

[Kel]

If he pulled his back fair enough and if he werent getting paid then same again cant blame him for pulling out and perhaps he said bad back because if he said because setanta werent paying him it would highlight the fact even more that they are done for. But if i was David i would have fought for free because if he had won which i believe he would it would open so many financial doors so he would win all round.

LOL and if he lost??

Come on dude! Think about it

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I'd bet millions that Warren knows the score and it is fact

[Kel]

I'd bet millions that Warren knows the score and it is fact

I can't see why he would say it if it was not true, with Setanta going down and all I can't see why anyone would doubt it at the moment.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I'd bet millions that Warren knows the score and it is fact

This is the same Warren who said Haye will get knocked out.
Haye who isn't signed to him & no case of sour grapes at all.

Would Warren have his fighter box and not get paid? Oh wait hang on there's this fellow called Joe from Wales who would like to chip in.....

[Tysonbruno]

If he pulled his back fair enough and if he werent getting paid then same again cant blame him for pulling out and perhaps he said bad back because if he said because setanta werent paying him it would highlight the fact even more that they are done for. But if i was David i would have fought for free because if he had won which i believe he would it would open so many financial doors so he would win all round.

LOL and if he lost??

Come on dude! Think about it

I had already said i didnt blame him for pulling out but he hasnt fought since 15th November 2008 maybe he should have took the gamble. And its obvious Setanta had no future and were going bang if he was pulling out for that reason so perhaps he could have gone to sky for his financial backing being they bought the fight with Chagaev anyway just a thought. Also he just needs to hurry up and fight if he waits till september October for Vitali he won't have fought for 10-11 month this is'nt good Im a massive Haye fan but its time to stop talking and just fight.

[The Fightfan]

I find this amusing. So he wasn't going to get paid heh? How much did Buster Douglas get paid for the Tyson fight? When he beat Mike he then had a 25 million dollar payday for the fight with Holyfield. So why not fight Wlad for peanuts if he is so sure he would beat Wlad. Fight Vitali in his next bout for a heavyweight championship and make 6 times as much as what he made against Wlad. I would like to know what was Haye going to get for his fight with Wlad? I find it amusing didn't Sander's fight Wlad for $25,000.

[JT Rock]

I find this amusing. So he wasn't going to get paid heh? How much did Buster Douglas get paid for the Tyson fight? When he beat Mike he then had a 25 million dollar payday for the fight with Holyfield. So why not fight Wlad for peanuts if he is so sure he would beat Wlad. Fight Vitali in his next bout for a heavyweight championship and make 6 times as much as what he made against Wlad. I would like to know what was Haye going to get for his fight with Wlad? I find it amusing didn't Sander's fight Wlad for $25,000.

Ok so when you go to work today and make $20 an hour, your boss pulls you aside and says FIGHTFAN, we are having some problems here at work were going to have to ask you to work for free this week buddy.

So Fightfan are you going to put in a 40 hour workweek for nothing or are you going to develop a cough all of a sudden? Dont answer I'll mail you out some cough drops.

Douglas and Tyson was not a mega event of this magnitude. Wlad couldnt draw 61k people on his own. It was Haye and his fanfare. Also Haye already bit the bullet fighting Wlad, since it was reported by many sources that Haye's cut was an insult not to mention Haye was getting nothing from the arena gate or German TV.

Can you blame the guy for wavering when his last bastian of income in this fight wasnt going to pay him. Gimme a break already

All those advocating he fight for free, who was going to pay the promoter, manager and trainer then?

[Gandalf]

Haye should have pulled out and given legitimate reasons for what he did. The bad back just makes him look like a bare faced liar.

Good luck to him on fighting his way up to another shot. It will probably take a while.

[OumaFan]

Say what you want about Haye but nobody's fighting for nothing these days when you're at that level, lets at least leave la la land and return to planet earth.

[Kirkland Laing]

When a fight is made, particularly one featuring fighters and promoters from two different countries, a contract between the promoters and a special bank account hold the revenues from the fight and dictate how the money is shared out after the fight. The special bank account is called an escrow account and is nominally controlled by a third party, normally a lawyer who has no connection to the various people/companies involed in the promotion. The money that TV companies like Setanta pay to show the fight is paid up front into this escrow account, and the contract governing the account dictates how the money is to be paid out after the fight. Or if the fight is cancelled it mandates repayment of the money back to the TV companies. So the Setanta money was already sitting in a bank account out of the reach of Setanta and Haye when the fight contract was signed. All Haye had to do to get it was turn up and fight. There was no reason for Haye to ask to be paid upfront and he'd happily signed a contract that paid him after the fight. There was no way that, had the fight gone ahead, that he wouldn't have been paid.

Don't forget Warren is involved in a lawsuit with Setanta after he unilaterally opted out of his contract with them and went back to Sky. Now that Setanta have gone bust the administrators running Setanta will drop the case so Warren just taking advantage of the situation to badmouth a rival promoter now that there'll be no legal consequences to running his mouth. The whole story is total bs, it's just Frank doing his thing.