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    Default Was Lennox truly dull?

    Its often said lennox lewis was cautious and even boring in the ring. People point to his seemingly timid displays against the likes of David Tua. But surely his explosive performances out weigh the timid ones. Briggs, Golota, Grant, Botha, Rahman II etc. Surely the critisicm is somewhat unfair. Far from being timid i would say Lennox produced his most attacking displays when faced with his most dangerous opponents.

    I would say the 'boring' tag is unfair on two counts, firstly, as i have said there are numerous examples of exciting, attacking performances. Secondly, is it fair to call his more sedate affairs 'boring'? I for one would say there is nothing boring about an athletic, highly skilled heavy putting on a 12 round demonstration. I'm sure many people that moaned about him at the time would now love to have him about, if he was an emerging heavy now he would be seen as a messiah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman89 View Post
    Its often said lennox lewis was cautious and even boring in the ring. People point to his seemingly timid displays against the likes of David Tua. But surely his explosive performances out weigh the timid ones. Briggs, Golota, Grant, Botha, Rahman II etc. Surely the critisicm is somewhat unfair. Far from being timid i would say Lennox produced his most attacking displays when faced with his most dangerous opponents.

    I would say the 'boring' tag is unfair on two counts, firstly, as i have said there are numerous examples of exciting, attacking performances. Secondly, is it fair to call his more sedate affairs 'boring'? I for one would say there is nothing boring about an athletic, highly skilled heavy putting on a 12 round demonstration. I'm sure many people that moaned about him at the time would now love to have him about, if he was an emerging heavy now he would be seen as a messiah.
    Any thoughts?
    first off lennox was definately a safety first fighter, but that was his winning formula, and why not, why would anyone else want to change that, ive seen him throw caution to the wind tho, especially in the golota fight, he just went straight after him, regardless lennox was a great champion, he would of givin any champ in history a good fight and beat most of them, i give him nothing but respect, truly a great heavyweight
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    Default Re: Was Lennox truly dull?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman89 View Post
    Its often said lennox lewis was cautious and even boring in the ring. People point to his seemingly timid displays against the likes of David Tua. But surely his explosive performances out weigh the timid ones. Briggs, Golota, Grant, Botha, Rahman II etc. Surely the critisicm is somewhat unfair. Far from being timid i would say Lennox produced his most attacking displays when faced with his most dangerous opponents.

    I would say the 'boring' tag is unfair on two counts, firstly, as i have said there are numerous examples of exciting, attacking performances. Secondly, is it fair to call his more sedate affairs 'boring'? I for one would say there is nothing boring about an athletic, highly skilled heavy putting on a 12 round demonstration. I'm sure many people that moaned about him at the time would now love to have him about, if he was an emerging heavy now he would be seen as a messiah.
    Any thoughts?
    first off lennox was definately a safety first fighter, but that was his winning formula, and why not, why would anyone else want to change that, ive seen him throw caution to the wind tho, especially in the golota fight, he just went straight after him, regardless lennox was a great champion, he would of givin any champ in history a good fight and beat most of them, i give him nothing but respect, truly a great heavyweight
    Well said, i guess there is a distinction to make between 'boring' and 'timid'. A case could be made that he was timid (although id disagree), but the case that he was boring is far less strong. I would argue though (in regards to timidness or 'safety first') that a list of his aggressive, attacking performances would be lengthier than his negative, timid displays. (Although i accept perhaps this is due to them living longer in the memory)
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    Default Re: Was Lennox truly dull?

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman89 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman89 View Post
    Its often said lennox lewis was cautious and even boring in the ring. People point to his seemingly timid displays against the likes of David Tua. But surely his explosive performances out weigh the timid ones. Briggs, Golota, Grant, Botha, Rahman II etc. Surely the critisicm is somewhat unfair. Far from being timid i would say Lennox produced his most attacking displays when faced with his most dangerous opponents.

    I would say the 'boring' tag is unfair on two counts, firstly, as i have said there are numerous examples of exciting, attacking performances. Secondly, is it fair to call his more sedate affairs 'boring'? I for one would say there is nothing boring about an athletic, highly skilled heavy putting on a 12 round demonstration. I'm sure many people that moaned about him at the time would now love to have him about, if he was an emerging heavy now he would be seen as a messiah.
    Any thoughts?
    first off lennox was definately a safety first fighter, but that was his winning formula, and why not, why would anyone else want to change that, ive seen him throw caution to the wind tho, especially in the golota fight, he just went straight after him, regardless lennox was a great champion, he would of givin any champ in history a good fight and beat most of them, i give him nothing but respect, truly a great heavyweight
    Well said, i guess there is a distinction to make between 'boring' and 'timid'. A case could be made that he was timid (although id disagree), but the case that he was boring is far less strong. I would argue though (in regards to timidness or 'safety first') that a list of his aggressive, attacking performances would be lengthier than his negative, timid displays. (Although i accept perhaps this is due to them living longer in the memory)
    i hear ya mate, for the people that called him boring, he didint do bad makin 100 million plus in his career, thats not bad for a boring fighter, he basically knocked out most people he faced, compared thru history he was probably less aggressive than a fraizer or prime tyson, but theirs no shame in that, surely, for me personally hes a top 5 heavyweight of all time easily
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    Default Re: Was Lennox truly dull?

    I think it is unfair to call his body of work boring. I know I got really turned off with Lennox in the second Hoylfield fight. Everyone including Lennox knew the first decision was so bad that as long as he was still standing after 12 rounds he would get the nod. I thought he fought completely uninspired and had no intention of really mixing it up with Evander.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    I think it is unfair to call his body of work boring. I know I got really turned off with Lennox in the second Hoylfield fight. Everyone including Lennox knew the first decision was so bad that as long as he was still standing after 12 rounds he would get the nod. I thought he fought completely uninspired and had no intention of really mixing it up with Evander.
    i dont no what that was about.i no he got robbed of a win in their first fight tho
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    Default Re: Was Lennox truly dull?

    Some fights he may have played it safe. In others he showed his skill and power. I would have LL in my top 5 of all time HWs. that's all that matters.

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    Default Re: Was Lennox truly dull?

    I always enjoyed Lennox in the ring. His fight with Vitali was one of the best heavyweight fights of the past 15 years.

    The Bruno and Mason fights were wildy entertaining, as was his demolition of Razor Ruddock.

    He was sensible when he had to be and didn't take unneccesary risks but his fights were far far more entertaining than Wlad's, Valuev's, Chagaev's etc.

    If he was fighting today he'd be Mr Excitement compared to the current lot

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    Default Re: Was Lennox truly dull?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I always enjoyed Lennox in the ring. His fight with Vitali was one of the best heavyweight fights of the past 15 years.

    The Bruno and Mason fights were wildy entertaining, as was his demolition of Razor Ruddock.

    He was sensible when he had to be and didn't take unneccesary risks but his fights were far far more entertaining than Wlad's, Valuev's, Chagaev's etc.

    If he was fighting today he'd be Mr Excitement compared to the current lot
    totally agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I always enjoyed Lennox in the ring. His fight with Vitali was one of the best heavyweight fights of the past 15 years.

    The Bruno and Mason fights were wildy entertaining, as was his demolition of Razor Ruddock.

    He was sensible when he had to be and didn't take unneccesary risks but his fights were far far more entertaining than Wlad's, Valuev's, Chagaev's etc.

    If he was fighting today he'd be Mr Excitement compared to the current lot
    totally agree

    I agree also. Watching him totally dominate Tua without going or having to go for the knockout was sheer brilliance.
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    Default Re: Was Lennox truly dull?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I always enjoyed Lennox in the ring. His fight with Vitali was one of the best heavyweight fights of the past 15 years.

    The Bruno and Mason fights were wildy entertaining, as was his demolition of Razor Ruddock.

    He was sensible when he had to be and didn't take unneccesary risks but his fights were far far more entertaining than Wlad's, Valuev's, Chagaev's etc.

    If he was fighting today he'd be Mr Excitement compared to the current lot
    I have always maintained that history will be kind to Lewis. He always knew the best way to fight an opponent. If he was cautious, it was for a reason. He made me a few pound better off when he fought the big guys like himself because you just knew he was gonna dive on them right away (klitchko apart).When he fought Grant, all the so-called experts were predicting that Grant would be champion for years. Until Lennox got him. He never ever ducked an opponent. A good champion and role model

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    He Was So Dull No Charisma

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