Why Carl Froch is the greatest super middleweight of this generation

[ono]

1-His record - The guys currently been flawless througout his career to date both in the amateurs and pro. 26 wins, 20 by way of knockout and not a single dent on his CV. Carl to date has been in and beaten every single person who has attempted to match him for superiority.

2-His style - Froch has many many different styles. From his out and out brawling methods to his counter punching superiority. Froch is fun to watch always has been. If carl froch is fighting you can be assured from the word go a boxing contest will turn into a fight and froch will always come out on top.

3-His adaptability - As ive mentioned in earlier threads before the cobra has had to on so many different occasions adapt his technique to suit the style of opponent he is in with, the very same thing which made calzaghe such a great fighter. The pascal fight is your perfect example, a great great fight which we`ll all agree on that contained 2 different carl frochs. The 1st being the out and out warrior that he is that stands infront of his opponent and forces him into a fight. The second being carls ability to pick his moments once he started coming off second best and using his superior footwork to dominate on the move.

4-Not afraid to fight anyone - Even the biggest carl froch hater (millions of them on this site) cannot accuse him of ever ducking an opponent. He has taken every single challenge head on and forced people into having to fight him. At this stage of their careers RJJ, Hopkins, calzaghe etc were all fighting tune up contests and avoiding the big boys, not the cobra. In his 10th pro fight he was fighting for a british title, thats right 10 FIGHTS. On his 12th outing he became the champion of the entire commonwealth and by the time he`d reached his 24th pro fight he was WBC champion of the world.

5-The andre dirrell fight - A prime example of what makes a special fighter great. Dirrell came to britain as the unbeaten american challenging the world champion to a fight on his terms and forced froch for the entire evening into fighting his fight. Froch couldnt manouevere his man like he always does because of the simple fact he couldnt even catch him. Dirrell ran like a bitch for 12rounds and froch had to chase shadows all evening. But did he at any point lose his cool and get caught out?? NO. Froch beat his younger, slicker opponent at doing what he does best and won by a clear margin. Dirrell has since gone on to beat the very man many expected to challenge froch for the super6 title.

6-His charisma - As we all know fighters need to show a hell of a lot outside of the ring in order to sell a fight. Froch doesnt need to do that. Is he arrogant, maybe but all fighters need to have that naivety every so often. Is he confident in himself? 100% yes, froch oozes confidence in abundance because he knows there is nobody on this planet that can stand toe to toe with him and get the better. Maybe RJJ in his prime or calzaghe in his prime, but there both debatable. Froch knows his the man because he right now is the man.

7-His girlfriend - nothing needs to be said....

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8-His legacy - Froch is in the midst of establishing himself as one of the all time greats up there with the great middleweights like hagler, hearns etc. Im convinced he`ll win saturday night after researching the man in full and as always will very much love to wipe the smirk off of the faces of many posters on here. He`ll win the super6 with ease with only Andre Ward giving him any trouble and even he will go on the run once he feels froch`s power. Calzaghe ducked the big boys for years, froch has done exactly the opposite and met them head on. When carl retires you wont have to ask whether or not he would of beaten said fighter from his generation on his day because he would of done and i wouldnt be surprised to see him retire unbeaten.

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[Youngblood]

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[Nameless]

HTH, are you willing to make a little sig bet that Froch loses against Kessler this week-end and therefore will erase that silly idea that he's the best at at 168?

[HattonTheHammer]

HTH, are you willing to make a little sig bet that Froch loses against Kessler this week-end and therefore will erase that silly idea that he's the best at at 168?

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

[ICB]

HTH, are you willing to make a little sig bet that Froch loses against Kessler this week-end and therefore will erase that silly idea that he's the best at at 168?

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

I'll do a name change bet with you.

[HattonTheHammer]

HTH, are you willing to make a little sig bet that Froch loses against Kessler this week-end and therefore will erase that silly idea that he's the best at at 168?

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

I'll do a name change bet with you.

for a week your on

Have to both pinky swear by it...


pinky swear

[ICB]

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

I'll do a name change bet with you.

for a week your on

Have to both pinky swear by it...


pinky swear

Mate anyone who knows my history here, always knows i stick with my bets. Don't worry if i lose i'll be here the next day.

[JonnyFolds]

I think Dirrell is a big baby and Froch is a piss poor boxer.

Bute should have lost the first Andrade fight. But now that he wiped the floor with him, I think it's a moot point.

To HTH: Nothing in boxing says the champ gets to take a complete ass whooping if he is ahead on the cards without the threat of the fight being stopped. Aside from that fact he was slumped in his corner after being flattened, he got a looong count, which was actually longer than the original "the long count" (Tunney -Dempsey II)

[ICB]

I think Dirrell is a big baby and Froch is a piss poor boxer.

Bute should have lost the first Andrade fight. But now that he wiped the floor with him, I think it's a moot point.

To HTH: Nothing in boxing says the champ gets to take a complete ass whooping if he is ahead on the cards without the threat of the fight being stopped. Aside from that fact he was slumped in his corner after being flattened, he got a looong count, which was actually longer than the original "the long count" (Tunney -Dempsey II)

Have you actually seen the fight ? he didn't get a long count. Count how long it took him to get up, he clearly got up by 8. And by the time he got up, the time in the round was already over.

Yes what the ref done was wrong telling Librado Andrade to go to the neutral corner. But so what ? that made no difference in the fight, because the time in the round was already over.

All Lucian Bute had to do was get up in time, which he clearly did. He responded to the ref and won legitmately, so why should he have lost ? i keep hearing this but why exactly ? because he was badly hurt ?

So what ? he got up and showed heart and won, he only got in that position because he made a mistake, by trading in the last round. It would of been a bigger robbery had Librado Andrade been given the win. With no time left in the fight.

[Nameless]

HTH, are you willing to make a little sig bet that Froch loses against Kessler this week-end and therefore will erase that silly idea that he's the best at at 168?

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

Accepted. Your sig is already done and I have quite a few ideas as for your avatar Ask to Jaz, I have infinite imagination, he quite appreciated my Marlon B Wright P4P referee" So how long for both? Is 6 weeks something fair to you or?

[HattonTheHammer]

HTH, are you willing to make a little sig bet that Froch loses against Kessler this week-end and therefore will erase that silly idea that he's the best at at 168?

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

Accepted. Your sig is already done and I have quite a few ideas as for your avatar Ask to Jaz, I have infinite imagination, he quite appreciated my Marlon B Wright P4P referee" So how long for both? Is 6 weeks something fair to you or?

i`ll take 2weeks, that`ll be enough embarrasment for you

[magee]

At the moment he is one of the best, and if he beats kessler and abraham then he is 100% the greatest. Dirrell is a quality fighter and froch didn't get anywere near the credit he deserved for beating him. I hated him afew years back as a person and a boxer, but i think he's quality.

[Darth_Simasu]

What a load of nonsense. Here's a list of super middles past and present that beat Froch 9 out of 10 times: Roy Jones Jr, Joe Calzaghe, James Toney, Andre Ward, Mikkel Kessler, Sakio Bika, Lucian Bute, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Steve Collins, Arthur Abraham.

I still maintain that Dirrel was robbed against Froch. Jermain Taylor schooled him until the 12th, Pascal is just a brawler. 'Greatest' my eye.

[Nameless]

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

Accepted. Your sig is already done and I have quite a few ideas as for your avatar Ask to Jaz, I have infinite imagination, he quite appreciated my Marlon B Wright P4P referee" So how long for both? Is 6 weeks something fair to you or?

i`ll take 2weeks, that`ll be enough embarrasment for you

what about a month? I'll use the extra embarrassment to look pitiful and to gather more attentions

[Taeth]

1-His record - The guys currently been flawless througout his career to date both in the amateurs and pro. 26 wins, 20 by way of knockout and not a single dent on his CV. Carl to date has been in and beaten every single person who has attempted to match him for superiority.

2-His style - Froch has many many different styles. From his out and out brawling methods to his counter punching superiority. Froch is fun to watch always has been. If carl froch is fighting you can be assured from the word go a boxing contest will turn into a fight and froch will always come out on top.

3-His adaptability - As ive mentioned in earlier threads before the cobra has had to on so many different occasions adapt his technique to suit the style of opponent he is in with, the very same thing which made calzaghe such a great fighter. The pascal fight is your perfect example, a great great fight which we`ll all agree on that contained 2 different carl frochs. The 1st being the out and out warrior that he is that stands infront of his opponent and forces him into a fight. The second being carls ability to pick his moments once he started coming off second best and using his superior footwork to dominate on the move.

4-Not afraid to fight anyone - Even the biggest carl froch hater (millions of them on this site) cannot accuse him of ever ducking an opponent. He has taken every single challenge head on and forced people into having to fight him. At this stage of their careers RJJ, Hopkins, calzaghe etc were all fighting tune up contests and avoiding the big boys, not the cobra. In his 10th pro fight he was fighting for a british title, thats right 10 FIGHTS. On his 12th outing he became the champion of the entire commonwealth and by the time he`d reached his 24th pro fight he was WBC champion of the world.

5-The andre dirrell fight - A prime example of what makes a special fighter great. Dirrell came to britain as the unbeaten american challenging the world champion to a fight on his terms and forced froch for the entire evening into fighting his fight. Froch couldnt manouevere his man like he always does because of the simple fact he couldnt even catch him. Dirrell ran like a bitch for 12rounds and froch had to chase shadows all evening. But did he at any point lose his cool and get caught out?? NO. Froch beat his younger, slicker opponent at doing what he does best and won by a clear margin. Dirrell has since gone on to beat the very man many expected to challenge froch for the super6 title.

6-His charisma - As we all know fighters need to show a hell of a lot outside of the ring in order to sell a fight. Froch doesnt need to do that. Is he arrogant, maybe but all fighters need to have that naivety every so often. Is he confident in himself? 100% yes, froch oozes confidence in abundance because he knows there is nobody on this planet that can stand toe to toe with him and get the better. Maybe RJJ in his prime or calzaghe in his prime, but there both debatable. Froch knows his the man because he right now is the man.

7-His girlfriend - nothing needs to be said....

http://photo.maxim.co.uk/images/libr..._110433_12.jpg

8-His legacy - Froch is in the midst of establishing himself as one of the all time greats up there with the great middleweights like hagler, hearns etc. Im convinced he`ll win saturday night after researching the man in full and as always will very much love to wipe the smirk off of the faces of many posters on here. He`ll win the super6 with ease with only Andre Ward giving him any trouble and even he will go on the run once he feels froch`s power. Calzaghe ducked the big boys for years, froch has done exactly the opposite and met them head on. When carl retires you wont have to ask whether or not he would of beaten said fighter from his generation on his day because he would of done and i wouldnt be surprised to see him retire unbeaten.

Well I strongly disagree aspecially considering Dirrell should beat him handily. You could count the meaningful legal blows Froch landed with your fingers alone. SUre I think DIrrell was nervous and didn't his feet all the time, but besides that it was his fight, he outboxed Froch, and he outpunched him down the stretch.