Khan Vs. Marquez

[0james0]

To be honest on the Maidana fight I don't get this lets build them up bullshit?? Bulid Maidana up? He will get exposed as soon as he fights any of the top boys, he is just a banger who is a challanger that is all Ortiz was raping him till we found out he had no bottle. Ortiz would spank him in a rematch to, fight Maidana.

Ortiz would never rematch with Maidana, he would be too scared. Maidana can hit hard and all the top guys know it, see the thread on here about how he keeps getting shit on by the top promoters, they don't want him in the ring with their guys. Even when Ortiz knocked him down he didn't look troubled.

I could see Khan fighting Ortiz, would be just like the Kotelnik fight though.

[ono]

Khan is taking Marquez at the right time and right situation. JMM is 37 with lots of wear and tear not to mention if the fight takes place it will be at 140. All of this favors Khan. Not to mentioned Khan is calling out Marquez but is pretty mum on guys like Bradley, Alexander, and Maidana, guys that are naturals at 140 that poses great danger. Khan is doing this because he knows he has a great shot at winning.

Khan's said he'd fight every single one of those guys.

On Maidana

"Maidana's the one i'd most like next. I've told Golden Boy to make that fight. Kotelnik managed to beat Maidana by frustrating him and that's what i'd intend to do. Victor Ortiz told me i'd take him apart"


On Bradley

"I think i'm already the biggest draw in the division but me apart, Bradley's the best name out there and it would be a good fight to see where i am and establish who's best at 140. Jose Benavidez (Khan's stablemate) went away to spar with Bradley and apparently Jose took him apart. When he came back to L.A. he told me i was miles ahead of Bradley - quicker, hit harder, better skills"

On Alexander

"I think he's seriously overrated and i know i'll destroy him, if and when we meet."


Let's not let the truth get in the way of an agenda though.


BTW i think Marquez has a great chance of stopping Khan. Marquez turned down the fight a while back anyway. Roach isn't that confident of a fight happening.

Words and actions are different. He also said he would beat Pacquiao and would take him on in the future. And he also famously said he wants to fight guys past their primes and then tried to use Oscar as an example.

You're right let's not let truth get in the way of an agenda though.

No shit. Your initial point was that Khan was keeping 'Mom' about fighting either of these guys. I presented you with quotes which suggest your initial statement was a load of fiddlesticks.

Practically every fighter out there will have a 'coming out' fight where it will be against a former world champion or a past his prime future Hall of famer, and it'll be a fight which the up and coming fighter will be expected to win if he is to go on and reach his potential. Khan's basically admitting he'd take this route if it presented itself to him. Every other fighter would do the same. All Khan is doing is being honest about it, and he is right, Oscar did do it.

Alexander did it not so long ago when he fought Corley and when he fought Witter, although Witter nor Corley were ever really that good to begin with. There's nothing wrong with it because Alexander is still young and he has plenty of time to make great fights. As does Khan.

Khan sure clammed up when Alexander and Bradley said they would take the challenge. It's over on boxingscene where Bradley said Khan could kiss his ass and took the bluff and said let's do it in December, no word yet isn't that strange? Same thing with Alexander.

And no Oscar didn't built up his career beating past their prime fighters as a young up and comer. In his 18th pro fight at 22 years old he took on Rafael Ruelas, who was the number 2 LW in the world, where Oscar was seen as the underdog, then took on the undefeated Genaro Hernandez in his next bout. Oscar didn't do the same thing. Try again.

BTW anyone else here thinks it's funny that Khan usually fights a past his prime legend that's really out of his weight class? MAB was one, and JMM is up next. Anyone remember when Khan and Roach said they wanted to fight a shot Erik Morales?

Yeah I rest my case.

Ruelas was almost knocked out by Freddie Pendleton a year before he fought Oscar. Ruelas was 34 when he fought Oscar. In the two previous fights he fought a guy with a 1-1-1 record and then he fought a gimme against Luton's own Billy Schwer, which conveniently happened to be for the vacant IBF lightweight title.

I'm unsure as to how that's any more impressive than a 23 year old Khan fighting Juan Manuel Marquez who is p4p number 3? Especially considering Khan's ability in comparison to Oscar's - given that you seem to believe Khan is a hype job.

What do you mean 'Khan usually fights a past his prime legend that's really out of his weight class?' He's done it once. Roach suggested Morales or someone of that stature would be a good TV opponent for Khan, and that was over 1 year ago.

And of course there's no word from Khan about an imminent fight with either Bradley or Alexander. That makes sense considering they're both about to fight each other. He's already stated he'll fight the winner, and he's already stated he wants to fight Maidana next. All of this was clear during the post fight interview after the Malignaggi fight.

Rafael Ruelas was 24 years old with only 1 loss and the number 2 LW in the world at that time. A favorite to beat Oscar. Where did you get he was 34 years old when Oscar beat him? Yes what Oscar did at 22 years old is light years more impressive than Khan at nearly the same age, beating top young guys. Beating guys like Ruelas and Hernandez is more impressive than beating Salita and Malignaggi.


JMM is a 37 year old that shouldn't be fighting past 140 and being used as a stepping stone. He might be p4p#3, but age, wear and tear, along with fighting past his comfortable weight should all be looked at.

Khan just a few days ago said Bradley and Alexander are bums and who could forget he said Maidana was ducking him. This isn't Freddie Roach talking his usual shit but straight from Khan's mouth.

Sorry typo.

I think when Khan was referring to the fact Oscar did it, he was probably thinking of Chavez, who was past his prime, when they fought. Most quality fighters have that sort of fight. Tsyzu also got Chavez when he was 38 (iirc). Calzaghe got Eubank, Hatton got Tszyu and Castillo. Both Jones and Toney got Mike McCallum when he was in his early 40's. Pavlik got Hopkins when he was well into his 40's (although that was funny). Most up and coming fighters do it. Khan's no different, he's just admitting it, that's all.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the competitiveness of Maquez in a fight with Khan. If he can handle the best lightweights in the world, i can't understand your reluctance in seeing him fight Khan, who by your own admission is nothing but hype.

[milmascaras1]

i think marquez could definitely beat khan but it would be very tough though. for one, marquez' age would be a factor as would khan's height, reach and speed. if marquez made it a fistfight then he can ko khan otherwise khan would probably win by decision.