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    Default Juan Manuel Marquez - who should he face if he doesn't win the Pacquiao sweepstakes?

    At this point, for better or worse, it looks like Shane Mosley is the front-runner for the fight with Pacquiao. There are a lot of JMM fans on this site (milmas, VD etc.). Who would you like to see him fight?

    To make a better case that he deserves the Pacquiao fight, Marquez should face someone accomplished at 140 or 147. The winners of the Khan/Maidana fight and the Bradley/Alexander fight at 140 seem like good choices as would Andre Berto at 147 (they fought on same card). As much as Soto deserves the pay day against Marquez at 135, I don't see the point for Marquez if Marquez wants to set himself up for a fight with Pacquiao. Same goes with Robert Guerrero.

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez - who should he face if he doesn't win the Pacquiao sweepstak

    Khan vs Marquez will more likely to happen. Roach has been drooling for it.

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez - who should he face if he doesn't win the Pacquiao sweepstak

    why is it that just because mosley is a welterweight, most of you think he is more qualified to fight pacquiao than marquez is. the man is washed up!!! what more can you get out of mosley but a 39 year old man who is way past it. he hasn't had a great fight (less margarito) in about 5 years.

    and just because marquez is a lightweight most of you seem to forget that he is the thorn on pacquiao's side and you all know this. it isn't as if the two times marquez fought pacquiao he was destroyed or wasn't competitive! that's why most of the fans want to see a trilogy and not some fraud of a fight between a fighter like pacquiao and another washed up fighter.

    and bobo arum is delusional if he thinks pacquiao/mosley would sell more than marquez/pacquiao. mosley doesn't have a whole lot of backing anymore especially after his last two duds. while marquez, even though he's 37 yo., can still fight and has a big mexican-american fan base who would buy this ppv.

    this is what i take, i believe arum wants mosley because 1. he's old and "can't pull the trigger anymore" and 2. he knows marquez' style would make pacquiao not look as good as he has been when fighting weight drained, older, slow fighters. i truly believe arum, roach and pacquiao are afraid to test marquez again because deep in their hearts, they know they lost their rematch 3 years ago.

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez - who should he face if he doesn't win the Pacquiao sweepstak

    If JMM-Pac doen't happen i would love to see JMM-Khan. I think it would be a very exciting fight. Milmascaras i agree Pac-Mosley is a horrible fight, people seen what floyds speed did to mosley, they should expect the same from Pac.

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez - who should he face if he doesn't win the Pacquiao sweepstak

    No one can be critical of Katsidis for who he fights, Amir Khan needs to either get Katsidis in the ring or Marquez if he wants respect and big money in the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    why is it that just because mosley is a welterweight, most of you think he is more qualified to fight pacquiao than marquez is. the man is washed up!!! what more can you get out of mosley but a 39 year old man who is way past it. he hasn't had a great fight (less margarito) in about 5 years.

    and just because marquez is a lightweight most of you seem to forget that he is the thorn on pacquiao's side and you all know this. it isn't as if the two times marquez fought pacquiao he was destroyed or wasn't competitive! that's why most of the fans want to see a trilogy and not some fraud of a fight between a fighter like pacquiao and another washed up fighter.

    and bobo arum is delusional if he thinks pacquiao/mosley would sell more than marquez/pacquiao. mosley doesn't have a whole lot of backing anymore especially after his last two duds. while marquez, even though he's 37 yo., can still fight and has a big mexican-american fan base who would buy this ppv.

    this is what i take, i believe arum wants mosley because 1. he's old and "can't pull the trigger anymore" and 2. he knows marquez' style would make pacquiao not look as good as he has been when fighting weight drained, older, slow fighters. i truly believe arum, roach and pacquiao are afraid to test marquez again because deep in their hearts, they know they lost their rematch 3 years ago.
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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez - who should he face if he doesn't win the Pacquiao sweepstak

    fenster,

    even if mosley would sell more than marquez, it wouldn't be for very much more. the thing is this, arum is overly protective of pacquiao. it happens fight after fight after fight. that, you cannot deny, can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    fenster,

    even if mosley would sell more than marquez, it wouldn't be for very much more. the thing is this, arum is overly protective of pacquiao. it happens fight after fight after fight. that, you cannot deny, can you?
    So you're saying Arum is ducking a fighter he's already put Pacquaio in with twice? Hmmm... not sure about this john
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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez - who should he face if he doesn't win the Pacquiao sweepstak

    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    fenster,

    even if mosley would sell more than marquez, it wouldn't be for very much more. the thing is this, arum is overly protective of pacquiao. it happens fight after fight after fight. that, you cannot deny, can you?
    Tickets being sold for Marquez / Pacquiao have very little to do with Marquez. Your example to look at the his recent fight with Katsidis and Berto on the under card. Mosley has a proven following.

    I think a good match up for Marquez is Bradley at 140lbs. It's a better Match up for Marquez than Khan because Khan's style is more outside and Marquez can't handle outside boxers.

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez - who should he face if he doesn't win the Pacquiao sweepstak

    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    fenster,

    even if mosley would sell more than marquez, it wouldn't be for very much more. the thing is this, arum is overly protective of pacquiao. it happens fight after fight after fight. that, you cannot deny, can you?

    Since Diaz at 135, Arum has put him in with DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito... Yep, that is how you protect a fighter...

    You are just denying the fact that these guys could beat 99% of their divisions,,, but it's simply easy to label them as "washed up" or "beaten up" or "slow" or "old" or whatever latest word you've got to discredit guys who are only a beating from Pac away from still being at the top of their weight divisions... yes yes you'll list those fighters out now and the reasons they were all tailor made for Pac..... While what you are trying to do is say how BAD they are, all you are really proving is how good Pac is for beating these guys so easily when everyone who's faced them before has struggled.....

    You could say Floyd has been protected his whole career because he's never copped a beating.. But more to reality, he's just a step above everyone else...

    Maybe you are just ignoring the fact that he faced the perceived most dangerous fighters in their divisions,,,, and whipped their asses..... Just because Manny doesn't get hurt, it doesn't mean he's being protected....



    But regardless, on to the point of Marquez next fight.. I think he has to fight someone of good quality at 140... It doesn't have to be anyone at the top, but he's got to prove he can carry the weight upwards...
    Most people believe NO ONE deserves a fight with Pac more than Marquez, and the best thing he can do to make that happen is to look good at 140...
    The Mayweather fight really told us nothing...
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