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    Default Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    The "experts" predicted an easy KO for Wlad. He would take Haye "whenever he felt like it"

    Instead we saw SIZE determine the outcome.

    A good big man beats a good little man.

    Well done Wlad.
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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Oh come on, you've got to Give Wlad more credit than that.

    He handed an overly cautious chicken shit Haye a one sided beating.

    Haye's performance was pathetic. Diving to the canvas every time Wlad grabbed him and complaining to the ref the whole time. He threw himself to the canvas in every single round for God's sake!

    Haye has no class at all.

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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Bwahahyahaha

    We saw attitude determine outcome.

    You need to look up the definitions of "Magnificent" "Effort" and "Fact"
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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Does anyone remember those times where Fenster didnt put Fact at the end of every sentence, i miss those times
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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey View Post
    Does anyone remember those times where Fenster didnt put Fact at the end of every sentence, i miss those times
    It winds people up. I can guarantee a bunch of dummies will follow anything I start
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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Haye did not put it on the line. he still had gas in the tank, loud mouth wanna be

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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Haye showed he is no Manny Pacquiao for sure.

    I thought his performance was ok. He took some decent shots. But his moaning about a broken toe afterwards as if that was all that cost him the fight just turned me to hating him again.

    Wlad did what Wlad does, and he did it well.

    I disagree with the size comment. Wlad has height and reach, and uses them both effectively. If Haye weighed in at 17 stone he would have still lost.

    You have done this before, discredit Wlad's performances becuase of his size. But if size was what really mattered why are all the other heavyweights in history smaller than the Klitschko's?

    Excessive size is no advantage on its own in heavyweight boxing and anyone who has watched the sport for as long as you have knows that.

    Wlad has perfected his style, and is dominant.

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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    Excessive size is no advantage on its own in heavyweight boxing and anyone who has watched the sport for as long as you have knows that.
    Spot on, which is why Haye managed to smash and grab Valuev. He couldnt do that to Wlad because Wlad is perfectly sized, any bigger he'd start to lose mobility, any shorter it makes him and easier target to get to.
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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    Excessive size is no advantage on its own in heavyweight boxing and anyone who has watched the sport for as long as you have knows that.
    Spot on, which is why Haye managed to smash and grab Valuev. He couldnt do that to Wlad because Wlad is perfectly sized, any bigger he'd start to lose mobility, any shorter it makes him and easier target to get to.
    If he was perfectly sized then Jameel Mcline and Tye Fields would be naturals too.

    I think its more a case of both he and his brother use their natural genetics to their best advantage. He fights in the perfect way to utilise his height and reach. Its too simplistic to say Wlad is 6ft 6 and 240 lbs therefore he is good. You could just as easily (in fact far more likely) see a 6ft 6 240lb fighter who was mediocre, slow and cumbersome.

    Wlad wins because he is a great fighter. Sure his frame helps, just as Roy Jones was helped by his natural athleticism. But he should be given full credit for it, just like Jones Jr.

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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    Excessive size is no advantage on its own in heavyweight boxing and anyone who has watched the sport for as long as you have knows that.
    Spot on, which is why Haye managed to smash and grab Valuev. He couldnt do that to Wlad because Wlad is perfectly sized, any bigger he'd start to lose mobility, any shorter it makes him and easier target to get to.
    If he was perfectly sized then Jameel Mcline and Tye Fields would be naturals too.

    I think its more a case of both he and his brother use their natural genetics to their best advantage. He fights in the perfect way to utilise his height and reach. Its too simplistic to say Wlad is 6ft 6 and 240 lbs therefore he is good. You could just as easily (in fact far more likely) see a 6ft 6 240lb fighter who was mediocre, slow and cumbersome.

    Wlad wins because he is a great fighter. Sure his frame helps, just as Roy Jones was helped by his natural athleticism. But he should be given full credit for it, just like Jones Jr.
    Absolutely spot on.

    If it was just a case of Wlad being too big for Haye then Valuev would have beaten him as well. Wlad is undoubtedly very limited, but he manages to get the very best out of what he has got and makes sure he uses his physically advantage well.

    Tyson used the fact that he was a small heavyweight to his advantage. He gave a height, reach and weight advantage away to almost everyone he ever fought yet he still managed to demolish everything put in front of him in his prime.

    Haye just ran and stunk the place out. When things didn't go for him he tried to cheat and get Wlad disqualified or points deductions. I don't think I have ever seen a fighter throw himself to the canvas in every round like Haye did.

    I'm not surprised Wlad couldn't get the knockout because Haye was constantly moving backwards. Even the couple of decent right hands that got through caught Haye as he was moving away from the punch so he didn't take the full impact of them at all.

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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    If he was perfectly sized then Jameel Mcline and Tye Fields would be naturals too.
    Very true. Still, those guys are overweight and musclesbound. Respectively.

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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Bwahahyahaha

    We saw attitude determine outcome.

    You need to look up the definitions of "Magnificent" "Effort" and "Fact"
    Listen mate, if you knew boxing history you'd realise Haye was attempting something that is VERY rare. Lighterweight champions becoming HEAVYWEIGHT champion.

    Do a little research.
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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Bwahahyahaha

    We saw attitude determine outcome.

    You need to look up the definitions of "Magnificent" "Effort" and "Fact"
    Listen mate, if you knew boxing history you'd realise Haye was attempting something that is VERY rare. Lighterweight champions becoming HEAVYWEIGHT champion.

    Do a little research.
    He didn't even make the attempt.

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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Bwahahyahaha

    We saw attitude determine outcome.

    You need to look up the definitions of "Magnificent" "Effort" and "Fact"
    Listen mate, if you knew boxing history you'd realise Haye was attempting something that is VERY rare. Lighterweight champions becoming HEAVYWEIGHT champion.

    Do a little research.
    Indeed, in fact have to wait now for 3 whole months before someone attempts it again.

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    Default Re: Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

    I think Haye was trying to bedazzle him with the harshness and menace of his verbage.

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