ADAM BOOTH:Haye 3rd best HW in world! Where would you place Haye right now?

[TitoFan]

you are both right on one thing, david haye is a tool

but this is not connected in any way with boxing ability

for instance, I'm fuckin ace but shit at boxing, get me?

Yes, David Haye is a tool... as we all agree.
But there is so much more than that.
(See below)

That is the problem with Haye and his manager. They think they are above all heavyweights and should not have to fight them because of what he achieved at Cruiserweight. They are so far up there own ass that they cannot see they look like a bunch of prats. There is no way Haye is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world based on his performances. The B level Americans like Arreleo and others would love to stomp on Haye. I also think Price and Fury would stand a chance against Haye.

This pretty much sums up what Haye's all about. I'm sure Haye's fans will have some sort of "counter-point", but nothing can change these facts.

did you just wink at me?

Its all about opinions matey

is david haye good enough to beat every other HW currently aside from the klits?

I think he is you obviously think he isnt

even if he KOs chisora in the first part of the fight a lot of people will still deny his credentials, people just cant seprate their feelings towards him as a man and as a fighter

"Credentials"? What credentials??

Fraudly Harrison? John Ruiz? Valuev? Barrett?
Are you kidding me?
Do you purposely ignore the point being made over and over again, as to how Haye and his people think they can get a free pass to the top of the HW division, just because he was a great cruiserweight? Why is he automatically over fighters like Helenius? Adamek? Arreola?....who have been toiling at HW longer than Haye has, and have fought more credible opposition.

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

[erics44]

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

you really dont like him do you?

and i can see tho at the same time you can put that hatred to the back of your mind and be totally objective about the situation

[TitoFan]

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

you really dont like him do you?

and i can see tho at the same time you can put that hatred to the back of your mind and be totally objective about the situation

A bit of selective quoting there, Eric.





How about the previous paragraph? Any response to that?

[Fenster]

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

you really dont like him do you?

and i can see tho at the same time you can put that hatred to the back of your mind and be totally objective about the situation

Very good post eric

(i've only quoted your post to see if TitoFan is dumb enough to actually reply to this)

[TitoFan]

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

you really dont like him do you?

and i can see tho at the same time you can put that hatred to the back of your mind and be totally objective about the situation

Very good post eric

(i've only quoted your post to see if TitoFan is dumb enough to actually reply to this)

Yep..... you got me there, Fuckster.
I just can't resist your charms.

[Mars_ax]

I wouldn't even put Haye in the top 10, having said that I wouldn't mind seeing Chisora vs. Haye, the fight should have a WWF/Circus type atmosphere. Chisora is a loose cannon and so is Haye, something has got to give.

[TitoFan]

I wouldn't even put Haye in the top 10, having said that I wouldn't mind seeing Chisora vs. Haye, the fight should have a WWF/Circus type atmosphere. Chisora is a loose cannon and so is Haye, something has got to give.

Oh yeah.... no doubt it will be entertaining. But then so is the typical brawl between two drunks at a bar. Haye will probably win.... so his fans will go all ballistic and claim Haye is not just top 3..... he's p4p, ATG, HOF, and just plain the GOAT. I can almost read the posts by Eric and Fuckster now.

[erics44]

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

you really dont like him do you?

and i can see tho at the same time you can put that hatred to the back of your mind and be totally objective about the situation

A bit of selective quoting there, Eric.





How about the previous paragraph? Any response to that?

the previous paragraph where you go on about how crap david haye is and then the paragraph i did quote about how much you hate him

unfortunately matey when it comes to the subject of david haye your opinion is less reliable than most

[AdamGB]

you are both right on one thing, david haye is a tool

but this is not connected in any way with boxing ability

for instance, I'm fuckin ace but shit at boxing, get me?

Yes, David Haye is a tool... as we all agree.
But there is so much more than that.
(See below)

That is the problem with Haye and his manager. They think they are above all heavyweights and should not have to fight them because of what he achieved at Cruiserweight. They are so far up there own ass that they cannot see they look like a bunch of prats. There is no way Haye is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world based on his performances. The B level Americans like Arreleo and others would love to stomp on Haye. I also think Price and Fury would stand a chance against Haye.

This pretty much sums up what Haye's all about. I'm sure Haye's fans will have some sort of "counter-point", but nothing can change these facts.

did you just wink at me?

Its all about opinions matey

is david haye good enough to beat every other HW currently aside from the klits?

I think he is you obviously think he isnt

even if he KOs chisora in the first part of the fight a lot of people will still deny his credentials, people just cant seprate their feelings towards him as a man and as a fighter

"Credentials"? What credentials??

Fraudly Harrison? John Ruiz? Valuev? Barrett?
Are you kidding me?
Do you purposely ignore the point being made over and over again, as to how Haye and his people think they can get a free pass to the top of the HW division, just because he was a great cruiserweight? Why is he automatically over fighters like Helenius? Adamek? Arreola?....who have been toiling at HW longer than Haye has, and have fought more credible opposition.

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

When you let personalities get in the way of your boxing opinions you look like you know very little.

It is VERY common for the champion in a division to move straight up to a title in the division above.

Very, very common.

Yet because Haye is seen as a dick by many it suddenly becomes an OUTRAGE.

If you can't be objective and unbiased about boxing then don't talk on it.

[Fenster]

you are both right on one thing, david haye is a tool

but this is not connected in any way with boxing ability

for instance, I'm fuckin ace but shit at boxing, get me?

Yes, David Haye is a tool... as we all agree.
But there is so much more than that.
(See below)

That is the problem with Haye and his manager. They think they are above all heavyweights and should not have to fight them because of what he achieved at Cruiserweight. They are so far up there own ass that they cannot see they look like a bunch of prats. There is no way Haye is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world based on his performances. The B level Americans like Arreleo and others would love to stomp on Haye. I also think Price and Fury would stand a chance against Haye.

This pretty much sums up what Haye's all about. I'm sure Haye's fans will have some sort of "counter-point", but nothing can change these facts.

did you just wink at me?

Its all about opinions matey

is david haye good enough to beat every other HW currently aside from the klits?

I think he is you obviously think he isnt

even if he KOs chisora in the first part of the fight a lot of people will still deny his credentials, people just cant seprate their feelings towards him as a man and as a fighter

"Credentials"? What credentials??

Fraudly Harrison? John Ruiz? Valuev? Barrett?
Are you kidding me?
Do you purposely ignore the point being made over and over again, as to how Haye and his people think they can get a free pass to the top of the HW division, just because he was a great cruiserweight? Why is he automatically over fighters like Helenius? Adamek? Arreola?....who have been toiling at HW longer than Haye has, and have fought more credible opposition.

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

When you let personalities get in the way of your boxing opinions you look like you know very little.

It is VERY common for the champion in a division to move straight up to a title in the division above.

Very, very common.

Yet because Haye is seen as a dick by many it suddenly becomes an OUTRAGE.

If you can't be objective and unbiased about boxing then don't talk on it.

Very good advice.

Haye haters, Floyd haters, Naz haters. Some guys just can't seperate personality with ability/success.

[AdamGB]

Naz is a good example of personality, to listen to him speak and see how he acted you'd think he belonged in the same breath as Sugar Ray or Ali... But then you actually look at the fighters he beat and when he beat them.

There's a difference between thinking the fatty formerly known as prince wasn't great and being outraged if he got a title fight one weight class up just because he's a cunt.

Nobody cried when Hatton got to fight his first fight at 147 for a belt and hardly any brits did when he robbed the belt after losing... Why?

[Fenster]

Naz is a good example of personality, to listen to him speak and see how he acted you'd think he belonged in the same breath as Sugar Ray or Ali... But then you actually look at the fighters he beat and when he beat them.

There's a difference between thinking the fatty formerly known as prince wasn't great and being outraged if he got a title fight one weight class up just because he's a cunt.

Nobody cried when Hatton got to fight his first fight at 147 for a belt and hardly any brits did when he robbed the belt after losing... Why?

Very good points AdamGB. Just remember....

If you can't be objective and unbiased about boxing then don't talk on it

[AdamGB]

If all you can post is quotes from me then I guess you have decided to follow my advice

[Mars_ax]

I wouldn't even put Haye in the top 10, having said that I wouldn't mind seeing Chisora vs. Haye, the fight should have a WWF/Circus type atmosphere. Chisora is a loose cannon and so is Haye, something has got to give.

Oh yeah.... no doubt it will be entertaining. But then so is the typical brawl between two drunks at a bar. Haye will probably win.... so his fans will go all ballistic and claim Haye is not just top 3..... he's p4p, ATG, HOF, and just plain the GOAT. I can almost read the posts by Eric and Fuckster now.

Tito, I'm not so sure Haye will win, Chisora looked better against Vitali then anyone has in years, and if Vitali didn't knock Chisora out, there's no way Haye will.
As for Eric, he's a fanboy/groupie for British fighters, and not per-say a fan of boxing.
As for Fenn, unlike Eric, he's usually objective about Brit pugs, he just likes stirring the pot, and getting a rise out of anyone who takes the bait.

[TitoFan]

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

you really dont like him do you?

and i can see tho at the same time you can put that hatred to the back of your mind and be totally objective about the situation

A bit of selective quoting there, Eric.





How about the previous paragraph? Any response to that?

the previous paragraph where you go on about how crap david haye is and then the paragraph i did quote about how much you hate him

unfortunately matey when it comes to the subject of david haye your opinion is less reliable than most

Opinions are not reliable. They're opinions.
Facts are reliable.
Glad I could be of help.