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    Default Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    Looking thru the thread, can't help but notice the hate for Donaire from the usual suspects. Overrated? Off of 1 bad fight? Ok...

    All credit to Rigo, who pulled it off. But all this p4p talk is a bit premature, IMO. The guy barely has 10 pro fights. Let him build his pro record a bit more... and then we can talk p4p. Yeah, he made a huge jump with this win, but let's not get hasty and erect a statue just yet.

    Donaire is still an elite fighter, and he'll bounce back from this loss. Which by the way, was a convincing win for Rigo. I don't let my preferences color my judgement. Rigo won it going away.
    My friend I spend no mind on this phantom p4p monthly love list. Pure plastic. I had no dog here but did not discount Rigo's chances. And I did think Donaire was overrated prior to this fight.

    I'm an empiricist though.


    Yeah, bro... p4p talk usually just muddles the water. And I know you had voiced your opinion of Nonito before the fight. I have to admit I was taken by surprise. I honestly thought Donaire had too much pro experience for Rigo... and was proven wrong.
    Its an acronym for favourite or flavour with or w/o the u. Rigo wanted this since he left Cuba. Donaire was drunk with success. I mean he never even needed a trainer.

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    Default Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
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    Looking thru the thread, can't help but notice the hate for Donaire from the usual suspects. Overrated? Off of 1 bad fight? Ok...

    All credit to Rigo, who pulled it off. But all this p4p talk is a bit premature, IMO. The guy barely has 10 pro fights. Let him build his pro record a bit more... and then we can talk p4p. Yeah, he made a huge jump with this win, but let's not get hasty and erect a statue just yet.

    Donaire is still an elite fighter, and he'll bounce back from this loss. Which by the way, was a convincing win for Rigo. I don't let my preferences color my judgement. Rigo won it going away.
    My friend I spend no mind on this phantom p4p monthly love list. Pure plastic. I had no dog here but did not discount Rigo's chances. And I did think Donaire was overrated prior to this fight.

    I'm an empiricist though.


    Yeah, bro... p4p talk usually just muddles the water. And I know you had voiced your opinion of Nonito before the fight. I have to admit I was taken by surprise. I honestly thought Donaire had too much pro experience for Rigo... and was proven wrong.
    Its an acronym for favourite or flavour with or w/o the u. Rigo wanted this since he left Cuba. Donaire was drunk with success. I mean he never even needed a trainer.
    Still wondering if we'll get the back story on the 'long distance' training with Garcia mentioned. Talk about a literal case of phoning it in.

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    Default Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?

    Actually, I had Rigondaux by a much wider margin. I can't see (even after seen the fight a second time) how the judges can have seen it that close for 2 of them. The son of Cuban litterally danced his way around Donaire and Garcia just had no plans and no ideas about how to fix the whole thing. I suspect that some judges were biaized toward Donaire because he'll always sell much more than Rigo because of his flashy style.
    Bottom line; the fight pretty much happened the way I thought it would happen, as I wrote somewhere on this board just before the fight.
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    Default Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
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    Downloaded a torrent of the fight yesterday and have watched it twice. The only rounds I gave Donaire were the second and tenth. Rigo's movement away from the left hook was just too much for him to handle. I can think of only a few times he was even in position to land it, let alone effectively. At times saw Rigo when under pressure and about to be pushed to the ropes land a lead left on the move before pivoting away and under a possible left hook which was nice to see and a sign that he's adding some more wrinkles to his pro game. As for it being a boring fight, yeh some of the middle rounds were absolute stinkers but in my opinion Rigo's entitled to use his low risk style. The guy's risked everything already just to be able to fight pro. He's lost his family, friends and country so if he's got the skills and knowledge to take an early lead on the cards and the champ that's talked all this shit about knocking him out cold doesn't want to take the risks he should be then it's Donaire's fault and no one else's. Plus the times Donaire actually used his much vaunted power Rigo came back harder almost everytime. Rigo is a legend in the making, his ability and story are incredible and if you put him in with the same brawlers Donaire's been in he'd seem entertaining as well. Add the fact that his gold teeth are his Olympiic medals
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    Default Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?

    Quote Originally Posted by jahmez View Post
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    Downloaded a torrent of the fight yesterday and have watched it twice. The only rounds I gave Donaire were the second and tenth. Rigo's movement away from the left hook was just too much for him to handle. I can think of only a few times he was even in position to land it, let alone effectively. At times saw Rigo when under pressure and about to be pushed to the ropes land a lead left on the move before pivoting away and under a possible left hook which was nice to see and a sign that he's adding some more wrinkles to his pro game. As for it being a boring fight, yeh some of the middle rounds were absolute stinkers but in my opinion Rigo's entitled to use his low risk style. The guy's risked everything already just to be able to fight pro. He's lost his family, friends and country so if he's got the skills and knowledge to take an early lead on the cards and the champ that's talked all this shit about knocking him out cold doesn't want to take the risks he should be then it's Donaire's fault and no one else's. Plus the times Donaire actually used his much vaunted power Rigo came back harder almost everytime. Rigo is a legend in the making, his ability and story are incredible and if you put him in with the same brawlers Donaire's been in he'd seem entertaining as well. Add the fact that his gold teeth are his Olympiic medals
    What are you saying here? He melted down his medals or sold them off to pay for teeth work
    He melted them down and put them in his mouth
    Im liking this fellows full commitment to his own goals .
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    Default Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?

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    Actually, I had Rigondaux by a much wider margin. I can't see (even after seen the fight a second time) how the judges can have seen it that close for 2 of them. The son of Cuban litterally danced his way around Donaire and Garcia just had no plans and no ideas about how to fix the whole thing. I suspect that some judges were biaized toward Donaire because he'll always sell much more than Rigo because of his flashy style.
    Bottom line; the fight pretty much happened the way I thought it would happen, as I wrote somewhere on this board just before the fight.
    This is why the judges had it so close. I've read a fair bit of crap in this thread about how Rigondeux dominated the fight. He did alot of running and for me, he didn't dominate. The key word is that he controlled the fight but in no way was he dominant. There were rounds were he did nothing but run and land the odd jab here and there and I didn't once think in the rounds I scored for Nonito that Rigo did anything effective. Rigondeux won the fight and that was clear, but some of those rounds were very close and you could argue for either man which is why some had it closer. Rigo just won more rounds clearly.

    Another bit of rubbish I read in here was that Nonito was overrated and was only successful because he beat up smaller guys. There are huge guys at higher weights who have no idea how to deal with a smaller opponent. Donaire has been the man to beat at Fly & Bantam and even Super-Bantam and to say he wasn't a World Class fighter does a disservice to the accomplishment that Rigondeux just pulled off.

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