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    Default Re: Can someone evaluate Floyds Record...

    let me just end this shit now. when your on top there is no where to go but down. no matter who PBF fight people/haters will try to take away from his record. the same people on here saying oscar is gonna beat PBF will be the same people after the fight saying that PBF beat a shot oscar.

    these are the same mofos talkin about gatti would beat PBF but when ask why they couldn't give a legit reason.

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    Default Re: Can someone evaluate Floyds Record...

    The question about Floyds record, will always provide the same arguments.

    Who should he have fought?

    The names that he missed were:

    Kostya Tszyu at 140 around 2002-2003

    Ricky Hatton at 140 around 2005-2006

    and

    Antonio Margarito at 147 in 2006.

    Let me know if I missed any......................

    If PBF would have beat any of those guys, would that cancel the argument about his weak competition? I highly doubt it.

    For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.

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    Default Re: Can someone evaluate Floyds Record...

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    The question about Floyds record, will always provide the same arguments.

    Who should he have fought?

    The names that he missed were:

    Kostya Tszyu at 140 around 2002-2003

    Ricky Hatton at 140 around 2005-2006

    and

    Antonio Margarito at 147 in 2006.

    Let me know if I missed any......................

    If PBF would have beat any of those guys, would that cancel the argument about his weak competition? I highly doubt it.

    Regardless of whatever reason,those fights were not made.But hypothetically speaking,if they were,and Floyd won,how can anyone have said anything? Margarito has been unbeaten at ww since 96? Ring umber 2 and ESPN number 2? Hatton/Tszyu,RING number 1 at 140? A legend and an unbeaten fighter? If anyone said that those fights would not have boosted his, at best, decemt resume,then I wholeheartedly disagree and they do not know what they are talking about. But i HIGHLY doubt anyone would have said that.

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    Default Re: Can someone evaluate Floyds Record...

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    The question about Floyds record, will always provide the same arguments.

    Who should he have fought?

    The names that he missed were:

    Kostya Tszyu at 140 around 2002-2003

    Ricky Hatton at 140 around 2005-2006

    and

    Antonio Margarito at 147 in 2006.

    Let me know if I missed any......................

    If PBF would have beat any of those guys, would that cancel the argument about his weak competition? I highly doubt it.

    Regardless of whatever reason,those fights were not made.But hypothetically speaking,if they were,and Floyd won,how can anyone have said anything? Margarito has been unbeaten at ww since 96? Ring umber 2 and ESPN number 2? Hatton/Tszyu,RING number 1 at 140? A legend and an unbeaten fighter? If anyone said that those fights would not have boosted his, at best, decemt resume,then I wholeheartedly disagree and they do not know what they are talking about. But i HIGHLY doubt anyone would have said that.
    Point is, that there would be a counter-argument made against any of those three, given the time that he would have beat them.

    Arguments would have been as follows

    Kostya Tzsyu - He's past his prime (at the time he was 33), prime for prime KT would have destroyed him.

    Ricky Hatton - It was an off-night, or a robbery.

    Antonio Margarito - He was overrated to begin with.

    I promise you a majority would not give PBF the credit he is lacking by beating any of those fighters.

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    Default Re: Can someone evaluate Floyds Record...

    I can see some silly fans not giving him respect but I disagree,I think us true hardcore fans would give him his dues. However,he did not fight them,he fought far far weaker competition therefore it's a moot point bro.

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    Those same hardcore fans who gave Calzaghe respect after he dismantled Lacy?
    Not having a dig, but people are fickle and it's hard to tell what they'll say after the event.

    All I know is this; Hatton is excellent and Cotto is excellent. Anybody who beats either of them will get bucketloads of respect regardless of how they win. Would either of these two improve Mayweather's legacy? Undoubtedly yes. If Baldomir and Judah are good wins for Mayweather, explain how either of these two fights are not worth him taking if he already believes he can win them?

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    Default Re: Can someone evaluate Floyds Record...

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    The question about Floyds record, will always provide the same arguments.

    Who should he have fought?

    The names that he missed were:

    Kostya Tszyu at 140 around 2002-2003

    Ricky Hatton at 140 around 2005-2006

    and

    Antonio Margarito at 147 in 2006.

    Let me know if I missed any......................

    If PBF would have beat any of those guys, would that cancel the argument about his weak competition? I highly doubt it.

    Regardless of whatever reason,those fights were not made.But hypothetically speaking,if they were,and Floyd won,how can anyone have said anything? Margarito has been unbeaten at ww since 96? Ring umber 2 and ESPN number 2? Hatton/Tszyu,RING number 1 at 140? A legend and an unbeaten fighter? If anyone said that those fights would not have boosted his, at best, decemt resume,then I wholeheartedly disagree and they do not know what they are talking about. But i HIGHLY doubt anyone would have said that.
    Point is, that there would be a counter-argument made against any of those three, given the time that he would have beat them.

    Arguments would have been as follows

    Kostya Tzsyu - He's past his prime (at the time he was 33), prime for prime KT would have destroyed him.

    Ricky Hatton - It was an off-night, or a robbery.

    Antonio Margarito - He was overrated to begin with.

    I promise you a majority would not give PBF the credit he is lacking by beating any of those fighters.

    Exactly...It seems like the majority of the Floyd bashers are either forum experts,hate him,or he beat one of their favorite fighters.Ali,Hagler,Tyson,and Roy jones jr all have been quoted as saying that they dont see anyone beating Mayweather.Arum even thought the same thing up until Floyd bought out of his contract an then Arum started his bashing campaign.Sugar Ray Leonard even said that Oscar was no match up until Floyd said that he was better than him...and then he jumped ship.

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    Default Re: Can someone evaluate Floyds Record...

    Quote Originally Posted by hackey100
    Those same hardcore fans who gave Calzaghe respect after he dismantled Lacy?
    Not having a dig, but people are fickle and it's hard to tell what they'll say after the event.

    All I know is this; Hatton is excellent and Cotto is excellent. Anybody who beats either of them will get bucketloads of respect regardless of how they win. Would either of these two improve Mayweather's legacy? Undoubtedly yes. If Baldomir and Judah are good wins for Mayweather, explain how either of these two fights are not worth him taking if he already believes he can win them?
    Floyd believes that he can beat Cory Spinks...so does that mean he has to fight him?
    Hatton and Cotto are excellent??Just watch their last 3 fights

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
    let me just end this S*** now. when your on top there is no where to go but down. no matter who PBF fight people/haters will try to take away from his record. the same people on here saying oscar is gonna beat PBF will be the same people after the fight saying that PBF beat a shot oscar.

    these are the same mofos talkin about gatti would beat PBF but when ask why they couldn't give a legit reason.
    Some people thaought Gatti would beat Floyd

    Well like I said originally, his reccord (and the names in it) is really good and respectfull. But I would say he is not All Time Great just yet. A win over Oscar and/or unifying the WW division will do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympian904
    Quote Originally Posted by hackey100
    Those same hardcore fans who gave Calzaghe respect after he dismantled Lacy?
    Not having a dig, but people are fickle and it's hard to tell what they'll say after the event.

    All I know is this; Hatton is excellent and Cotto is excellent. Anybody who beats either of them will get bucketloads of respect regardless of how they win. Would either of these two improve Mayweather's legacy? Undoubtedly yes. If Baldomir and Judah are good wins for Mayweather, explain how either of these two fights are not worth him taking if he already believes he can win them?
    Floyd believes that he can beat Cory Spinks...so does that mean he has to fight him?
    Hatton and Cotto are excellent??Just watch their last 3 fights
    What about Cotto's last 3 fights was there not to like?

    Made his exit from 140. Beat undefeated Paulie Malignaggi who no one else was able to hit in the past.
    Cotto broke this boy up in 4 and in the process broke his left hand in the 5th.
    Still won and Malignaggi looked like he had been in a car accident when the fight was over.

    No one had ever touched this kid up.

    Moved up to 147 and destroyed undefeated Carlos Quintana in 5.

    Beat Urkal from pole to pole and suffered a cut in the process.
    Endured the cut and the head butts and the Urkal Corner threw in the towel in 11th.
    Was sick going into this fight and spent 10 days in the hospital.

    You can say what you want about Hatton but don't talk about Cotto's performances because then you are just talking out the side of your neck and you are sounding kinda dumb in the process.



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    Default Re: Can someone evaluate Floyds Record...

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    The question about Floyds record, will always provide the same arguments.

    Who should he have fought?

    The names that he missed were:

    Kostya Tszyu at 140 around 2002-2003

    Ricky Hatton at 140 around 2005-2006

    and

    Antonio Margarito at 147 in 2006.

    Let me know if I missed any......................

    If PBF would have beat any of those guys, would that cancel the argument about his weak competition? I highly doubt it.

    i doubt it too

    if had of fought kostya and won people would of said kostya was old.
    if he had of fought hatton. people would have said hatton was overrated and untested. the same for margarito.

    lets evaluate kostya hatton or margarito record. matter fact you could challenge any top fighters record.

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    man everybody knew paulie was overrated. largely overrated by himself and his own ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_G
    Quote Originally Posted by Olympian904
    Quote Originally Posted by hackey100
    Those same hardcore fans who gave Calzaghe respect after he dismantled Lacy?
    Not having a dig, but people are fickle and it's hard to tell what they'll say after the event.

    All I know is this; Hatton is excellent and Cotto is excellent. Anybody who beats either of them will get bucketloads of respect regardless of how they win. Would either of these two improve Mayweather's legacy? Undoubtedly yes. If Baldomir and Judah are good wins for Mayweather, explain how either of these two fights are not worth him taking if he already believes he can win them?
    Floyd believes that he can beat Cory Spinks...so does that mean he has to fight him?
    Hatton and Cotto are excellent??Just watch their last 3 fights
    What about Cotto's last 3 fights was there not to like?

    Made his exit from 140. Beat undefeated Paulie Malignaggi who no one else was able to hit in the past.
    Cotto broke this boy up in 4 and in the process broke his left hand in the 5th.
    Still won and Malignaggi looked like he had been in a car accident when the fight was over.

    No one had ever touched this kid up.

    Moved up to 147 and destroyed undefeated Carlos Quintana in 5.

    Beat Urkal from pole to pole and suffered a cut in the process.
    Endured the cut and the head butts and the Urkal Corner threw in the towel in 11th.
    Was sick going into this fight and spent 10 days in the hospital.

    You can say what you want about Hatton but don't talk about Cotto's performances because then you are just talking out the side of your neck and you are sounding kinda dumb in the process.


    He beat Paulie...who is paulie?he was undefeated but thats not saying much these days.example Allan green beat Jaidon and Ravelo who both were undefeated...and then Allan ran into Miranda.
    Cotto got rocked in the 9th round...he looked sloppy...and his so called "body punches" did nothing.What was impressive about that fightMalignaggi's face?Look at Gatti's face after the Floyd fight?Dont try to hype Malignaggi b/c he was overrated.
    I didnt see the Quintana fight...
    He didnt beat Urkal pole to pole.He thought he was gonna knock him out with body shots and it didnt happen.This was his whole game plan.Him being "sick" is just an excuse.FYI Urkals corner threw in the towel because they thought that the ref wasnt being fair....NOT because of Cotto's punches.

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    I for one looking at that picture of Malignaggi am outraged........... Beating up on a woman like that is distasteful and inexcusable....

    Cotto should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law

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    Default Re: Can someone evaluate Floyds Record...

    Quote Originally Posted by Olympian904
    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_G
    Quote Originally Posted by Olympian904
    Quote Originally Posted by hackey100
    Those same hardcore fans who gave Calzaghe respect after he dismantled Lacy?
    Not having a dig, but people are fickle and it's hard to tell what they'll say after the event.

    All I know is this; Hatton is excellent and Cotto is excellent. Anybody who beats either of them will get bucketloads of respect regardless of how they win. Would either of these two improve Mayweather's legacy? Undoubtedly yes. If Baldomir and Judah are good wins for Mayweather, explain how either of these two fights are not worth him taking if he already believes he can win them?
    Floyd believes that he can beat Cory Spinks...so does that mean he has to fight him?
    Hatton and Cotto are excellent??Just watch their last 3 fights
    What about Cotto's last 3 fights was there not to like?

    Made his exit from 140. Beat undefeated Paulie Malignaggi who no one else was able to hit in the past.
    Cotto broke this boy up in 4 and in the process broke his left hand in the 5th.
    Still won and Malignaggi looked like he had been in a car accident when the fight was over.

    No one had ever touched this kid up.

    Moved up to 147 and destroyed undefeated Carlos Quintana in 5.

    Beat Urkal from pole to pole and suffered a cut in the process.
    Endured the cut and the head butts and the Urkal Corner threw in the towel in 11th.
    Was sick going into this fight and spent 10 days in the hospital.

    You can say what you want about Hatton but don't talk about Cotto's performances because then you are just talking out the side of your neck and you are sounding kinda dumb in the process.


    He beat Paulie...who is paulie?he was undefeated but thats not saying much these days.example Allan green beat Jaidon and Ravelo who both were undefeated...and then Allan ran into Miranda.
    Cotto got rocked in the 9th round...he looked sloppy...and his so called "body punches" did nothing.What was impressive about that fightMalignaggi's face?Look at Gatti's face after the Floyd fight?Dont try to hype Malignaggi b/c he was overrated.
    I didnt see the Quintana fight...
    He didnt beat Urkal pole to pole.He thought he was gonna knock him out with body shots and it didnt happen.This was his whole game plan.Him being "sick" is just an excuse.FYI Urkals corner threw in the towel because they thought that the ref wasnt being fair....NOT because of Cotto's punches.
    Allen Green is garbage. Paulie will be a champ one day wether we like it or not.
    Please show me this ghost footage of Cotto getting rocked in the 9th because you are the only one who claims this happend. Stop bulshieting and post the clip.
    To lame to find the clip? Or are you just making the shiet up as you go?

    I can hit Gatti with hot butterd popcorn from the stands and he will get cut. Shut the hell up with that crap. Gatti is old and has more scar tissue on his face than Brittney Spears has on her stomach.

    I am not hyping Malignaggi. You are. You said he rocked cotto blah blah blah.
    It was not me here on this forum ever saying Paulie was great. But you should have seen all of his fan boys saying Cotto would never hit him.
    If PBF put a dent in Gatti's face, Cotto would make gatti look 10 times worse.
    You did not see the Quintana fight? Then why the PHUK did you mention Cottos last 3 fights if you your self missed one? Stupidity has no limit with you right?
    You gonna tell me that Cotto did not hit Urkal up and down that ring? Are you stupid or just blind? Do you need me to make you a clip? I will and I will make look stupid again just like I do when ever I make a clip with proof. Now sit the hell down. Your husband PBF dont go around knocking everyone out either. So what is your point? Cotto is not a knock out artist but he tries. Unlike your husband Floyd who ran from Baldi all night. So bad that people booed his azz and left. Put that in floyds jock-strap and smoke it.

    The ref did his job. Don't blame the ref.

    If your boyfriend Floyd would have been getting head butted that way you would have been in tears. I know you cried like a little woman when Judah hit Floyd in the vagina.

    Shut the hell up!
    Seriously.

    You talk so much papas.


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