Skater Almost Killed at X-Games Today

[Punisher136]

Bullshit, stamp collecting is not physical. Everything has to have defense? Then that eliminates golf, shooting, track and field and stuff like that. Things that are clearly sports. The term sport shouldn't be something that you value.

This all stems from your dislike of a sport. It's ok if you don't like a sport or even don't respect it, but that doesn't mean that it is a sport.

Then explain what makes a sport and what doesn't. Draw the line between hobby and sport.

When a competitive element is present an an organised structure of competition is introduced with official governing bodies and a codified series of rules and regulations.

(Not a word but i'll go along with this)
By that definition poker and competitive video gaming as well as eating is a sport. They have all those aspects.

[Kev]

Bullshit, stamp collecting is not physical. Everything has to have defense? Then that eliminates golf, shooting, track and field and stuff like that. Things that are clearly sports. The term sport shouldn't be something that you value.

This all stems from your dislike of a sport. It's ok if you don't like a sport or even don't respect it, but that doesn't mean that it is a sport.

Then explain what makes a sport and what doesn't. Draw the line between hobby and sport.

When a competitive element is present an an organised structure of competition is introduced with official governing bodies and a codified series of rules and regulations.

(Not a word but i'll go along with this)
By that definition poker and competitive video gaming as well as eating is a sport. They have all those aspects.

Yes but I don't have a problem with that. Anything that people choose to compete against each other competitively is a sport in my opinion.

Yes I agree that I associate sports with a physical element and so things such as chess may not be sports in the strictest sense but I still appreciate the skill required to take part competitively and so consider it to be as worthy a pursuit as any other sport.

People should just do what they love to do, one mans' meat is another man's poison.

[Punisher136]

Bullshit, stamp collecting is not physical. Everything has to have defense? Then that eliminates golf, shooting, track and field and stuff like that. Things that are clearly sports. The term sport shouldn't be something that you value.

This all stems from your dislike of a sport. It's ok if you don't like a sport or even don't respect it, but that doesn't mean that it is a sport.

Then explain what makes a sport and what doesn't. Draw the line between hobby and sport.

When a competitive element is present an an organised structure of competition is introduced with official governing bodies and a codified series of rules and regulations.

(Not a word but i'll go along with this)
By that definition poker and competitive video gaming as well as eating is a sport. They have all those aspects.

Yes but I don't have a problem with that. Anything that people choose to compete against each other competitively is a sport in my opinion.

Yes I agree that I associate sports with a physical element and so things such as chess may not be sports in the strictest sense but I still appreciate the skill required to take part competitively and so consider it to be as worthy a pursuit as any other sport.

People should just do what they love to do, one mans' meat is another man's poison.

I'm not saying they don't take skill. I have never said that over the course of this thread. Hobby's take skill as well as sports and i believe there is a profound differences between the two (sport and hobby). If you accept everything competitve as a sport, i can't argue that (on the terms that you indeed accept EVERYTHING competitive as a sport). I feel skateboarding is a hobby thats been passed off as a sport just as poker and the spelling bee have been in the past several years.

[Kev]

Bullshit, stamp collecting is not physical. Everything has to have defense? Then that eliminates golf, shooting, track and field and stuff like that. Things that are clearly sports. The term sport shouldn't be something that you value.

This all stems from your dislike of a sport. It's ok if you don't like a sport or even don't respect it, but that doesn't mean that it is a sport.

Then explain what makes a sport and what doesn't. Draw the line between hobby and sport.

When a competitive element is present an an organised structure of competition is introduced with official governing bodies and a codified series of rules and regulations.

(Not a word but i'll go along with this)
By that definition poker and competitive video gaming as well as eating is a sport. They have all those aspects.

Yes but I don't have a problem with that. Anything that people choose to compete against each other competitively is a sport in my opinion.

Yes I agree that I associate sports with a physical element and so things such as chess may not be sports in the strictest sense but I still appreciate the skill required to take part competitively and so consider it to be as worthy a pursuit as any other sport.

People should just do what they love to do, one mans' meat is another man's poison.

I'm not saying they don't take skill. I have never said that over the course of this thread. Hobby's take skill as well as sports and i believe there is a profound differences between the two (sport and hobby). If you accept everything competitve as a sport, i can't argue that (on the terms that you indeed accept EVERYTHING competitive as a sport). I feel skateboarding is a hobby thats been passed off as a sport just as poker and the spelling bee have been in the past several years.

Yes but surely kicking a football or hit a ball with a bat started as hobbies and recreational pasttimes?

There has to come a point where the level of competition and infrastructure involved in organising events and tournaments marks a transition from hobby to sport.

I would say all sports start as a hobby but growth and development sees them become sports over time.

Skateboarding certainly started as a hobby but it's most definitely a sport now.

[Punisher136]

Bullshit, stamp collecting is not physical. Everything has to have defense? Then that eliminates golf, shooting, track and field and stuff like that. Things that are clearly sports. The term sport shouldn't be something that you value.

This all stems from your dislike of a sport. It's ok if you don't like a sport or even don't respect it, but that doesn't mean that it is a sport.

Then explain what makes a sport and what doesn't. Draw the line between hobby and sport.

When a competitive element is present an an organised structure of competition is introduced with official governing bodies and a codified series of rules and regulations.

(Not a word but i'll go along with this)
By that definition poker and competitive video gaming as well as eating is a sport. They have all those aspects.

Yes but I don't have a problem with that. Anything that people choose to compete against each other competitively is a sport in my opinion.

Yes I agree that I associate sports with a physical element and so things such as chess may not be sports in the strictest sense but I still appreciate the skill required to take part competitively and so consider it to be as worthy a pursuit as any other sport.

People should just do what they love to do, one mans' meat is another man's poison.

I'm not saying they don't take skill. I have never said that over the course of this thread. Hobby's take skill as well as sports and i believe there is a profound differences between the two (sport and hobby). If you accept everything competitve as a sport, i can't argue that (on the terms that you indeed accept EVERYTHING competitive as a sport). I feel skateboarding is a hobby thats been passed off as a sport just as poker and the spelling bee have been in the past several years.

Yes but surely kicking a football or hit a ball with a bat started as hobbies and recreational pasttimes?

There has to come a point where the level of competition and infrastructure involved in organising events and tournaments marks a transition from hobby to sport.

I would say all sports start as a hobby but growth and development sees them become sports over time.

Skateboarding certainly started as a hobby but it's most definitely a sport now.

Hmm thats cc worthy and something i can't argue against. We gotta draw the line at competitive eating tho. Agree?

[Kev]

Bullshit, stamp collecting is not physical. Everything has to have defense? Then that eliminates golf, shooting, track and field and stuff like that. Things that are clearly sports. The term sport shouldn't be something that you value.

This all stems from your dislike of a sport. It's ok if you don't like a sport or even don't respect it, but that doesn't mean that it is a sport.

Then explain what makes a sport and what doesn't. Draw the line between hobby and sport.

When a competitive element is present an an organised structure of competition is introduced with official governing bodies and a codified series of rules and regulations.

(Not a word but i'll go along with this)
By that definition poker and competitive video gaming as well as eating is a sport. They have all those aspects.

Yes but I don't have a problem with that. Anything that people choose to compete against each other competitively is a sport in my opinion.

Yes I agree that I associate sports with a physical element and so things such as chess may not be sports in the strictest sense but I still appreciate the skill required to take part competitively and so consider it to be as worthy a pursuit as any other sport.

People should just do what they love to do, one mans' meat is another man's poison.

I'm not saying they don't take skill. I have never said that over the course of this thread. Hobby's take skill as well as sports and i believe there is a profound differences between the two (sport and hobby). If you accept everything competitve as a sport, i can't argue that (on the terms that you indeed accept EVERYTHING competitive as a sport). I feel skateboarding is a hobby thats been passed off as a sport just as poker and the spelling bee have been in the past several years.

Yes but surely kicking a football or hit a ball with a bat started as hobbies and recreational pasttimes?

There has to come a point where the level of competition and infrastructure involved in organising events and tournaments marks a transition from hobby to sport.

I would say all sports start as a hobby but growth and development sees them become sports over time.

Skateboarding certainly started as a hobby but it's most definitely a sport now.

Hmm thats cc worthy and something i can't argue against. We gotta draw the line at competitive eating tho. Agree?

I don't know in a few years that will be all you yanks are any good at, at which point it will become your national sport and have it's own World Series and Superbowl.......literally a giant bowl where all the contestents jump in and attempt to eat their way out in the quickest time.

[katfight]

Bullshit, stamp collecting is not physical. Everything has to have defense? Then that eliminates golf, shooting, track and field and stuff like that. Things that are clearly sports. The term sport shouldn't be something that you value.

This all stems from your dislike of a sport. It's ok if you don't like a sport or even don't respect it, but that doesn't mean that it is a sport.

Then explain what makes a sport and what doesn't. Draw the line between hobby and sport.

When a competitive element is present an an organised structure of competition is introduced with official governing bodies and a codified series of rules and regulations.

(Not a word but i'll go along with this)
By that definition poker and competitive video gaming as well as eating is a sport. They have all those aspects.

Yes but I don't have a problem with that. Anything that people choose to compete against each other competitively is a sport in my opinion.

Yes I agree that I associate sports with a physical element and so things such as chess may not be sports in the strictest sense but I still appreciate the skill required to take part competitively and so consider it to be as worthy a pursuit as any other sport.

People should just do what they love to do, one mans' meat is another man's poison.

I'm not saying they don't take skill. I have never said that over the course of this thread. Hobby's take skill as well as sports and i believe there is a profound differences between the two (sport and hobby). If you accept everything competitve as a sport, i can't argue that (on the terms that you indeed accept EVERYTHING competitive as a sport). I feel skateboarding is a hobby thats been passed off as a sport just as poker and the spelling bee have been in the past several years.

Yes but surely kicking a football or hit a ball with a bat started as hobbies and recreational pasttimes?

There has to come a point where the level of competition and infrastructure involved in organising events and tournaments marks a transition from hobby to sport.

I would say all sports start as a hobby but growth and development sees them become sports over time.

Skateboarding certainly started as a hobby but it's most definitely a sport now.

Hmm thats cc worthy and something i can't argue against. We gotta draw the line at competitive eating tho. Agree?

I don't know in a few years that will be all you yanks are any good at, at which point it will become your national sport and have it's own World Series and Superbowl.......literally a giant bowl where all the contestents jump in and attempt to eat their way out in the quickest time.

yeah hahahahaha they seem to be gettin in lots of practise for that already

[Punisher136]

Bullshit, stamp collecting is not physical. Everything has to have defense? Then that eliminates golf, shooting, track and field and stuff like that. Things that are clearly sports. The term sport shouldn't be something that you value.

This all stems from your dislike of a sport. It's ok if you don't like a sport or even don't respect it, but that doesn't mean that it is a sport.

Then explain what makes a sport and what doesn't. Draw the line between hobby and sport.

When a competitive element is present an an organised structure of competition is introduced with official governing bodies and a codified series of rules and regulations.

(Not a word but i'll go along with this)
By that definition poker and competitive video gaming as well as eating is a sport. They have all those aspects.

Yes but I don't have a problem with that. Anything that people choose to compete against each other competitively is a sport in my opinion.

Yes I agree that I associate sports with a physical element and so things such as chess may not be sports in the strictest sense but I still appreciate the skill required to take part competitively and so consider it to be as worthy a pursuit as any other sport.

People should just do what they love to do, one mans' meat is another man's poison.

I'm not saying they don't take skill. I have never said that over the course of this thread. Hobby's take skill as well as sports and i believe there is a profound differences between the two (sport and hobby). If you accept everything competitve as a sport, i can't argue that (on the terms that you indeed accept EVERYTHING competitive as a sport). I feel skateboarding is a hobby thats been passed off as a sport just as poker and the spelling bee have been in the past several years.

Yes but surely kicking a football or hit a ball with a bat started as hobbies and recreational pasttimes?

There has to come a point where the level of competition and infrastructure involved in organising events and tournaments marks a transition from hobby to sport.

I would say all sports start as a hobby but growth and development sees them become sports over time.

Skateboarding certainly started as a hobby but it's most definitely a sport now.

Hmm thats cc worthy and something i can't argue against. We gotta draw the line at competitive eating tho. Agree?

I don't know in a few years that will be all you yanks are any good at, at which point it will become your national sport and have it's own World Series and Superbowl.......literally a giant bowl where all the contestents jump in and attempt to eat their way out in the quickest time.

Rome said something a few weeks ago along the lines of "Competitive eating, golf, and poker on tv.... Who said the glory days of american sports are gone?". I in fact find it an insult the We (the most obese per capita nation in the world) don't hold a heavyweight boxing title. Not only are we getting bigger but shorter as well. The average american adult male is like 5'10. We are slowly "evolving" into oompa loompas.

[Memphis]

Kat youd be alright at the competitive eating. You can make a sausage dissapear in next to no time right?

[Punisher136]

Don't get me wrong some people have brought it on themselves but a small amount of obese people have legitimate metabolic disorders. It personally doesn't bother me because i know that once i get the resources, i'm not gonna be in this shape anymore. The people who blaim it on mcdonalds and all that tho..... Its not like they tied you up, took you out back and made you eat those dozen double cheeseburgers. Some people....

[katfight]

Kat youd be alright at the competitive eating. You can make a sausage dissapear in next to no time right?

hahahahahaha you no it

[katfight]

we talking frankfurters too no chipolatas

[amat]

Bullshit, stamp collecting is not physical. Everything has to have defense? Then that eliminates golf, shooting, track and field and stuff like that. Things that are clearly sports. The term sport shouldn't be something that you value.

This all stems from your dislike of a sport. It's ok if you don't like a sport or even don't respect it, but that doesn't mean that it is a sport.

Then explain what makes a sport and what doesn't. Draw the line between hobby and sport.

When a competitive element is present an an organised structure of competition is introduced with official governing bodies and a codified series of rules and regulations.

(Not a word but i'll go along with this)
By that definition poker and competitive video gaming as well as eating is a sport. They have all those aspects.

As much as I love poker, it's not a physical activity...

[El Kabong]

So Lyle, by the same logic, a boxer is "stupid" for putting himself in the situation to ride a wheelchair or something like that their whole lives? I wouldn't think you would call boxers who end up hurt stupid. If you do then fair play.

But my whole thing is, when did the term "sport" become a label of exclusivity. The definition of sport should never go into specifics. When it does, then it becomes ugly. And there is really no reason for it to become ugly because there is no reason to deny something the title of sport even if it really is.

Merriam - Websters definition of a sport is "(1): physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2): a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in"

Now...if you don't think that skateboarding adheres to that then I don't know where your mind is. Basically a physical competition. Golf is a sport. Darts are a sport. Competitive eating is a sport. And so is skateboarding.

They all have different degrees of difficulty but they are all sports nonetheless.

If you don't see it that way, then I'll do some nitpicking at the definition of my own. How bout this.

Any sport that is in any way decided by a judge is not a sport at all. For it to be a sport, the competitor should be able to win it himself without interference from a 3rd party.

So that excludes skateboarding, figure skating, diving and oh....boxing. And that is just as viable of a reason to exclude something from the title of "sport" as any.

To an extent yes...if you can do something less dangerous and make good money then yeah.

All I support is personal responsibility that is all.....just so long as I don't have to pay that dude's hospital bill or anything I'm fine with it

[katfight]

So Lyle, by the same logic, a boxer is "stupid" for putting himself in the situation to ride a wheelchair or something like that their whole lives? I wouldn't think you would call boxers who end up hurt stupid. If you do then fair play.

But my whole thing is, when did the term "sport" become a label of exclusivity. The definition of sport should never go into specifics. When it does, then it becomes ugly. And there is really no reason for it to become ugly because there is no reason to deny something the title of sport even if it really is.

Merriam - Websters definition of a sport is "(1): physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2): a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in"

Now...if you don't think that skateboarding adheres to that then I don't know where your mind is. Basically a physical competition. Golf is a sport. Darts are a sport. Competitive eating is a sport. And so is skateboarding.

They all have different degrees of difficulty but they are all sports nonetheless.

If you don't see it that way, then I'll do some nitpicking at the definition of my own. How bout this.

Any sport that is in any way decided by a judge is not a sport at all. For it to be a sport, the competitor should be able to win it himself without interference from a 3rd party.

So that excludes skateboarding, figure skating, diving and oh....boxing. And that is just as viable of a reason to exclude something from the title of "sport" as any.

To an extent yes...if you can do something less dangerous and make good money then yeah.

All I support is personal responsibility that is all.....just so long as I don't have to pay that dude's hospital bill or anything I'm fine with it

anything to sneak in a bit of politic's huh Lyle (as long as i dont have to pay the hospital bill)

so if u support doin something less dangerous
i take it u support the use of head guards in pro boxing ?
or body protectors maybe
or a no smacking in the head rule?