Simulated Pavlik Calzaghe fight. here is the result.

[C-Lo]

Everyone and sadly this means everyone has the right to thier own opinion, what race, the state thier from, what color underwear a boxer wears has absolutly nothing to do with anything. There are certian places that produce more than others but to bring that up in a boxing disucussion always is a tactic of someone who "A" spends to much time on myspace or "B" has limited boxing knowledge to argue a point like an adult. Not pointing fingers at anyone cause i stopped reading when the discussion got away from boxing but just my opinion. How can someone be wrong about a fight that hasn't even been made and hell has a chance of not even happening. Joe could catch pavlik in the first 30 seconds of the first round for all we know and Ko him cold, nothing is impossible....unlikely but not impossible everyone has a right to thier own belief no matter how wrong they may seem. Wanna prove em wrong bet money, sig, anything but calling names and net bangin only proves....well you know. Now here's my opnion back to the topic of boxing, i see it as a mosquito against a bear, the mosquito could stay outside irritatingly stinging for 12 rounds and win but if the bear catches him, it could be good night real quick. I'd pick pavlik by KO myself but who knows.....i did smoke a morning bowl earlier.

Another good post...

...The last line was the best part though..

[Fenster]

Anyone claiming Pavlik beats Calzaghe in the chin department is having a laugh.

Forget the fact that Calzaghe has fought by far the stronger competition, and forget the flash knockdowns both have suffered, name ONE time Calzaghe has been turned into a DRUNK staggering all over the ring not knowing how to use his legs?

Taylor was close to stopping Pavlik.

In fact, some refs would have jumped in to SAVE him from a further bashing.

Calzaghe hasn't EVER been close to getting stopped. Fact.

[southakron314]

Anyone claiming Pavlik beats Calzaghe in the chin department is having a laugh.

Forget the fact that Calzaghe has fought by far the stronger competition, and forget the flash knockdowns both have suffered, name ONE time Calzaghe has been turned into a DRUNK staggering all over the ring not knowing how to use his legs?

Taylor was close to stopping Pavlik.

In fact, some refs would have jumped in to SAVE him from a further bashing.

Calzaghe hasn't EVER been close to getting stopped. Fact.

If Calzaghe took that many shots he would have been out allot earlier.

[southakron314]

Lacy was more feared than Pavlik before the Calzaghe fight.

You talk shit maybe i should go on about Pavlik getting dropped heavily by a Welterweight

Pavlik and McCart. Funny .So you are saying that Bronco McKart hits harder than Edision Miranda. That was a slip dude.I seen the whole fight . All seven rounds of it. Your favorite fighter is a complete bitch inside the ring and out.His fans boo our nations anthem.If it was not for the USA you would not have a country. You would be speaking german right now. Show some class.Calzaghe hits like a 85 pound Korean gymnast. Calzaghe has made a career out of fighting crappy european fighters. Omar Shieka , that douche that does porn .....whats his name. Robin whatever. He fought one great who is quallified for social security and gets hurt and floored by him and your ready to lick his toes for it. That was the ugliest win ever. My favorite boxer does not try to anally rape a old man in the ring. He doesnt hit like a girl. And is all around tough. Not a welsh bullet dodger. Why didnt he call out Hopkins, Toney , Tarver , and Jones back in the day. He knew he would lose.

Do your fucking home work kid... the german's didn't want to risk going over the Channel and we fucked their shit up every time they tried to fly over our country. They basically didn't think that the reward outweighed the risk and gave up even thinking of invading us once we spanked their airforce. The germans used a tactic called blitzcrieg to invade a country... sap it from the air and storm it when it was weak... they couldn't weaken us.... read up on it

Now if you're talking about France that would be a different story... and I wouldnt put it past you seeing as you managed to confuse Hatton's fans (ie football fans) with Calzaghes fans... you even managed to confuse Mayweather with Hopkins because they happened on different fights...

you also can't remember the ref stepping in because Manfredo was clearly out of his depth and STOPPING the fight... not taking calzaghe the distance like you said.

Are you on something?

Reason being axis forces were so over helmed in Europe with U.S forces that is what allowed british forces to but them up. You needed us. Dont deny it. buzz bombs and bomb raids. We won this war as a team. With out each other it would have been terrible for Europe.

[southakron314]

Ans thats why Ohio has produced fighters that have done what Calzaghe has?

What a tool you are.

No Ohio fighter spent his prime as a paper champ ducking all the middle weight monsters of his early prime to mid prime era. So no Ohio fighters have not yet done that. Now in Wales it a diffrent story. He never fought a great p4p primed middleweight super middle weight in his life.

First it was Calzaghe never beat anyone, then after he beat Lacy, Lacy was over-rated. So Joe then beats Kessler and people say but he isnt P4P so Joe beats Hopkins now people say he wasnt prime P4P. Can you see how stupid you sound. In 2002 Hopkins openly ducked Calzaghe who else was there for Calzaghe to fight?

Jerk.

First off team Calaughy wanted close to a 40/60 and all they deserve was a 20/80 or a 10/90. He never fought Jones Jr in the 1990's neither Toney , Wright , or Hopkins. I cant respect that and never will.

[CFH]

I just love the rantings of delusional fanboys, don't you?

[CFH]

Pavlik and McCart. Funny .So you are saying that Bronco McKart hits harder than Edision Miranda. That was a slip dude.I seen the whole fight . All seven rounds of it. Your favorite fighter is a complete bitch inside the ring and out.His fans boo our nations anthem.If it was not for the USA you would not have a country. You would be speaking german right now. Show some class.Calzaghe hits like a 85 pound Korean gymnast. Calzaghe has made a career out of fighting crappy european fighters. Omar Shieka , that douche that does porn .....whats his name. Robin whatever. He fought one great who is quallified for social security and gets hurt and floored by him and your ready to lick his toes for it. That was the ugliest win ever. My favorite boxer does not try to anally rape a old man in the ring. He doesnt hit like a girl. And is all around tough. Not a welsh bullet dodger. Why didnt he call out Hopkins, Toney , Tarver , and Jones back in the day. He knew he would lose.

Do your fucking home work kid... the german's didn't want to risk going over the Channel and we fucked their shit up every time they tried to fly over our country. They basically didn't think that the reward outweighed the risk and gave up even thinking of invading us once we spanked their airforce. The germans used a tactic called blitzcrieg to invade a country... sap it from the air and storm it when it was weak... they couldn't weaken us.... read up on it

Now if you're talking about France that would be a different story... and I wouldnt put it past you seeing as you managed to confuse Hatton's fans (ie football fans) with Calzaghes fans... you even managed to confuse Mayweather with Hopkins because they happened on different fights...

you also can't remember the ref stepping in because Manfredo was clearly out of his depth and STOPPING the fight... not taking calzaghe the distance like you said.

Are you on something?

Reason being axis forces were so over helmed in Europe with U.S forces that is what allowed british forces to but them up. You needed us. Dont deny it. buzz bombs and bomb raids. We won this war as a team. With out each other it would have been terrible for Europe.

I hope I'm misunderstanding you, but are you saying the reason the Germans didn't invade England is because they were fighting Americans in continental Europe (or anywhere else for that matter)? American supplies, money, and equipment played a much bigger role in WW2 than did American combat forces, not to take anything away from the American contribution (which was vital) or from those Americans who fought.

[Deanrw]

Pavlik has a good set of whiskers, not great whiskers. Joe has a good set of whiskers, not great though.

Does Pavlik have enough power to knock out Joe? I would say yes. Pavlik has left behind him a number of guys who were never down in there career until they got in the ring with him. If he landed enough on Joe, Joe would probably go also.

The question is, can Pavlik land bombs on Joe with enough consistancy where Joe would fall? I say no. Joe has great stamina and Pavlik usually pounces on guys who cannot maintain his pace. Pavlik is not a one punch puncher, he beats guys up bad enough so they cannot take it anymore. This is why he can knock out guys that other big punchers cannot.

Against Joe, Pavlik will be in the ring with someone who can match his pace and not get cornered as much. Pavlik has enough offense and Power though that he can outpoint Joe, simply by staying busy and not slowing down. Joe will not rush in on him much, as Pavlik can land accurate sneaky punches much better than anyone will ever give him credit for. He will have to be careful though and find his range as he has looked out of sync in the only other fight I have seen him in against a southpaw.

His lack of opposition against Southpaws, could very well cost him.

[CFH]

Pavlik has a good set of whiskers, not great whiskers. Joe has a good set of whiskers, not great though.

Does Pavlik have enough power to knock out Joe? I would say yes. Pavlik has left behind him a number of guys who were never down in there career until they got in the ring with him. If he landed enough on Joe, Joe would probably go also.

The question is, can Pavlik land bombs on Joe with enough consistancy where Joe would fall? I say no. Joe has great stamina and Pavlik usually pounces on guys who cannot maintain his pace. Pavlik is not a one punch puncher, he beats guys up bad enough so they cannot take it anymore. This is why he can knock out guys that other big punchers cannot.

Against Joe, Pavlik will be in the ring with someone who can match his pace and not get cornered as much. Pavlik has enough offense and Power though that he can outpoint Joe, simply by staying busy and not slowing down. Joe will not rush in on him much, as Pavlik can land accurate sneaky punches much better than anyone will ever give him credit for. He will have to be careful though and find his range as he has looked out of sync in the only other fight I have seen him in against a southpaw.

His lack of opposition against Southpaws, could very well cost him.

Good post. For me, Calzaghe - Pavlik would be a pick 'em fight. I'd lean towards Pavlik because Calzaghe is getting on in years, but it's by no means a sure thing.

[Youngblood]

Hey, cool thread. Lotsa shit-talking, neg. repping, chest puffing. haaa

I need to visit boxing talk more often, missing gems like this.

Carry on...




p.s. Pavlik ftw.

[Markusdarkus]

Pavlik and McCart. Funny .So you are saying that Bronco McKart hits harder than Edision Miranda. That was a slip dude.I seen the whole fight . All seven rounds of it. Your favorite fighter is a complete bitch inside the ring and out.His fans boo our nations anthem.If it was not for the USA you would not have a country. You would be speaking german right now. Show some class.Calzaghe hits like a 85 pound Korean gymnast. Calzaghe has made a career out of fighting crappy european fighters. Omar Shieka , that douche that does porn .....whats his name. Robin whatever. He fought one great who is quallified for social security and gets hurt and floored by him and your ready to lick his toes for it. That was the ugliest win ever. My favorite boxer does not try to anally rape a old man in the ring. He doesnt hit like a girl. And is all around tough. Not a welsh bullet dodger. Why didnt he call out Hopkins, Toney , Tarver , and Jones back in the day. He knew he would lose.

Do your fucking home work kid... the german's didn't want to risk going over the Channel and we fucked their shit up every time they tried to fly over our country. They basically didn't think that the reward outweighed the risk and gave up even thinking of invading us once we spanked their airforce. The germans used a tactic called blitzcrieg to invade a country... sap it from the air and storm it when it was weak... they couldn't weaken us.... read up on it

Now if you're talking about France that would be a different story... and I wouldnt put it past you seeing as you managed to confuse Hatton's fans (ie football fans) with Calzaghes fans... you even managed to confuse Mayweather with Hopkins because they happened on different fights...

you also can't remember the ref stepping in because Manfredo was clearly out of his depth and STOPPING the fight... not taking calzaghe the distance like you said.

Are you on something?

Reason being axis forces were so over helmed in Europe with U.S forces that is what allowed british forces to but them up. You needed us. Dont deny it. buzz bombs and bomb raids. We won this war as a team. With out each other it would have been terrible for Europe.

LOL.

[Markusdarkus]

Again southakron cant debate he just throws out neg rep and "fuck off Euro trash"

Why is he here someone get rid of this idiot.

[Deanrw]

Again southakron cant debate he just throws out neg rep and "fuck off Euro trash"

Why is he here someone get rid of this idiot.

Well you incite people also. Calling fighters BUMS as well as other names. You and I had our own falling out in the past. He is not the only one guilty of it. People can be passionate over their favorite boxers, so insulting another one will almost always lead to a fight.

[Markusdarkus]

Again southakron cant debate he just throws out neg rep and "fuck off Euro trash"

Why is he here someone get rid of this idiot.

Well you incite people also. Calling fighters BUMS as well as other names. You and I had our own falling out in the past. He is not the only one guilty of it. People can be passionate over their favorite boxers, so insulting another one will almost always lead to a fight.

Calzaghe has fought bums Jones has fought bums.

Do you agree?

Now when a fighter gets knocked down by a bum how should i phrase it?

Listen i would never call an elite fighter a bum or a can and i have never slagged Pavlik off i put what i think on the table wanting a good debate it hypes fights makes them more enjoyable. Then you get this tool and that Demise just neg repping and slagging off every comment they dont agree with.

Argue, state your case dont just throw out aimless hate.

If i posted "Calzaghe is crap feather fisted bum basher" id get 10,00k good rep but if i put "I think Calzaghe will whoop Pavlik" you get a ton of neg rep.

[CFH]

Again southakron cant debate he just throws out neg rep and "fuck off Euro trash"

Why is he here someone get rid of this idiot.

Well you incite people also. Calling fighters BUMS as well as other names. You and I had our own falling out in the past. He is not the only one guilty of it. People can be passionate over their favorite boxers, so insulting another one will almost always lead to a fight.

You should know by now that reason and rationality have no place in this thread.