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Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
If arum really said that, then pac-floyd is something that might just be wishful thinking, because there's no way floyd agrees to the small share. Esp seeing as how floyd feels he's as big a draw as oscar.
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
If you're really reading Bleacher Report then you're wasting your time. Blog writers and newspeople are two totally different things and that site makes the blog writers the news people.
I haven't seen that Arum comment anywhere, I don't know. But the Roach comment, I'm pretty sure that article was posted on the main board here and I read the article and Roach didn't say that at all. Unless he was referring to another article. Roach said that Manny wouldn't go for a 60-40 split and that both guys have egos. Nothing about him personally not going for that split (don't see why it would matter to Roach) and definitely nothing that Manny would in turn like a 60/40 split of his own.
I really wouldn't get to worked up over this, I really don't think Arum would say that. He's shrewd and knows how to make big fights happen and considering that Mayweather has a fight scheduled, that just seems boneheaded for him to say so early on into things. Bleacher Report is a safe haven for wackos.
Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
At least it should be 51/49 in favor of PAC... Just like the 52/48 PAC got from the Hatton purse split...
PAC is the hottest boxer right now... He should get the lion's share even out of respect for his current status in boxing...
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
Nah it should just be 50-50.Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
Nah it should just be 50-50.
I think PAC just want a little recognition or respect on his current status as #1 P4P and the #1 man in boxing right now...
He did it in the negotiation for the Hatton fight... PAC didn't accept a 50-50 split and finally settle for 52-48 split... Just little recognition is what PAC is after for, IMO...
Anyway PAC will always try to gain more recognition in the actual fight...
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
That's not how it works.
When Floyd fought Oscar, he was everyone's #1 PFP, yet he took way less than a 50/50 split, because Oscar was the one who brought more money to the promotion.
It's about who brings more money to the table. When Floyd and Pac sit down to negotiate, Floyd is going to point out that Floyd-Oscar did more PPV buys than Pac-Oscar, Floyd-Hatton did more PPV buys than Pac-Hatton, and Floyd-Marquez will likely do more buys than either Pac-Marquez fight. There's no reason for Floyd to take less than 50/50 against Pac.
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
Team PAC can always counter PBF's higher PPV numbers by saying that PAC's fights with Hoya and Hatton were during difficult times where there's a current global economic crisis...That's not how it works.
When Floyd fought Oscar, he was everyone's #1 PFP, yet he took way less than a 50/50 split, because Oscar was the one who brought more money to the promotion.
It's about who brings more money to the table. When Floyd and Pac sit down to negotiate, Floyd is going to point out that Floyd-Oscar did more PPV buys than Pac-Oscar, Floyd-Hatton did more PPV buys than Pac-Hatton, and Floyd-Marquez will likely do more buys than either Pac-Marquez fight. There's no reason for Floyd to take less than 50/50 against Pac.
Also I think PBF got a lesser purse split percentage wise in the Hoya fight as compared to the reported 38% that PAC got from Hoya... I don't know the purse split in PBF-Hatton fight...
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
Um, sorry, but the biggest selling UFC ppv was Lesnar-Couture, which occured during these exact same economic times. Pacman ain't getting more money than Mayweather. Accept it and move onTeam PAC can always counter PBF's higher PPV numbers by saying that PAC's fights with Hoya and Hatton were during difficult times where there's a current global economic crisis...That's not how it works.
When Floyd fought Oscar, he was everyone's #1 PFP, yet he took way less than a 50/50 split, because Oscar was the one who brought more money to the promotion.
It's about who brings more money to the table. When Floyd and Pac sit down to negotiate, Floyd is going to point out that Floyd-Oscar did more PPV buys than Pac-Oscar, Floyd-Hatton did more PPV buys than Pac-Hatton, and Floyd-Marquez will likely do more buys than either Pac-Marquez fight. There's no reason for Floyd to take less than 50/50 against Pac.
Also I think PBF got a lesser purse split percentage wise in the Hoya fight as compared to the reported 38% that PAC got from Hoya... I don't know the purse split in PBF-Hatton fight...
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
And when Floyd-Marquez does more PPV buys than Pac-Marquez, Floyd can counter by saying that he did more PPVs against Marquez in a bad economy than Pac did against Marquez in a good economy.Team PAC can always counter PBF's higher PPV numbers by saying that PAC's fights with Hoya and Hatton were during difficult times where there's a current global economic crisis...That's not how it works.
When Floyd fought Oscar, he was everyone's #1 PFP, yet he took way less than a 50/50 split, because Oscar was the one who brought more money to the promotion.
It's about who brings more money to the table. When Floyd and Pac sit down to negotiate, Floyd is going to point out that Floyd-Oscar did more PPV buys than Pac-Oscar, Floyd-Hatton did more PPV buys than Pac-Hatton, and Floyd-Marquez will likely do more buys than either Pac-Marquez fight. There's no reason for Floyd to take less than 50/50 against Pac.
Also I think PBF got a lesser purse split percentage wise in the Hoya fight as compared to the reported 38% that PAC got from Hoya... I don't know the purse split in PBF-Hatton fight...
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Floyd's not getting less than 50/50 against Pac, and there's no evidence to suggest that he should take less than 50/50.
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
No it shouldn't. In case you forgot, Floyd originally retired without having fought Margarito, Cotto, Williams, or Mosley. He doesn't give a sh!t what you, me, or anyone thinks of his legacy, because as far as he's concerned, he's already stamped his legacy. There's a reason he changed his nickname from Pretty Boy to 'Money.' That's all he's concerned with. He'll just as soon fight any other fighter in the world who won't stall on negotiations rather than Pac if he's not getting the most money. Manny on the other hand, cares about his legacy and his fans, and the fact is this fight WILL happen, and Manny ain't getting the lion's share, that's just a fact. At best it would be split down the middle. The leverage is stacked completely in Floyd's favor in that he wouldn't lose any sleep by not fighting Manny, Pacquiao would though.
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
No your wrong. 50/50 or winner gets majrity of a 60/40. Neither deserve a bigger purse.
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
Running away from a 3rd fight with Marquez is not how you earn respect. Considering Pac really has 5 losses it should be 70-30 Mayweather
Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
Running from JMM 3rd fight?? And fighting Hoya and Hatton is called "running"??Running away from a 3rd fight with Marquez is not how you earn respect. Considering Pac really has 5 losses it should be 70-30 Mayweather
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
6 million offer to fight the man that beat him is on the table. Pac turns and fights David "Crap" Diaz. The 11th best Lightweight. Marquez keeps busy and fights the 1st and 3rd best Lightweights.Running from JMM 3rd fight?? And fighting Hoya and Hatton is called "running"??Running away from a 3rd fight with Marquez is not how you earn respect. Considering Pac really has 5 losses it should be 70-30 Mayweather
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Re: Arum: "Even a 50/50 split with Floyd and Pac is utter nonsense".
Yeah, calculated methodical running like on a tread mill ........ An old and and an over rated fighter ..... Keep on hugginRunning from JMM 3rd fight?? And fighting Hoya and Hatton is called "running"??Running away from a 3rd fight with Marquez is not how you earn respect. Considering Pac really has 5 losses it should be 70-30 Mayweather
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