Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

[Mr140]

Well to be honest i thought Cotto lost the Clottey and Mosley fights. Not to mention the beatings he has got form Pac and Margarito so i am not so sure of his chances to be honest.

[Pavlik]

Cotto's taken some hellacious shots I don't think he has a bad chin, his defense could be improved, but oh well.

I dont think Cotto has a bad chin. I just think he can be bullied, intimidated. If his opponent has something that can counter his own work I have always felt he would fall apart. He doesnt seem to have a higher gear to fight back or figure an opponent out.

To be fair, it doesnt take much to figure Mayorga out but when you arent that great defensively and are are relatively week minded as I think Cotto is, then when Mayorga gets in decent shape and marauds him constantly and lands some clean shots I think Cotto will just gradually get beaten up and probably take another knee.

Relatively weak minded. Bro do you live in a cave? Cotto fought Mosely prior to PBF and beat him, fought Marg before he got caught and Clottey. Miguel Cotto is a warrior!!!

I can see why he said that. Cotto did take a knee from the pressure Margarito put on him, and you could see he just didn't want to be in there against Pac in the last round or two.
Let's make one thing clear everyone who laces the pair of gloves is a warrior in my eyes. Cotto is no exception. He definately has heart and balls to be in there and take some of the beatings he's taken.
He just seems to break down when he is not the bully or is being pushed around himself.
Out of all the things Cotto that took him down a few notches in my book was when he low blowed Zab constantly to save his life...

low blowed?! I think Zab is just O.A.
I never thought Miguel was in anywhere shape or form in trouble vs Zab.
Regarding Mosely, Cotto convincingly beat him, even Mosely have no qualms about it.
Cotto is a near perfect gentleman IMO!!!

[Pavlik]

Cotto destroys Mayorga!!!

[Mr140]

Eh i think this may be close depending on the shape of the fighters.

[Nameless]

Cotto is way too fast and technical for El'matator, I predict an old school beating under the guidance of Manny Stewart, nothing less.

[El Kabong]

I can see why he said that. Cotto did take a knee from the pressure Margarito put on him, and you could see he just didn't want to be in there against Pac in the last round or two.
Let's make one thing clear everyone who laces the pair of gloves is a warrior in my eyes. Cotto is no exception. He definately has heart and balls to be in there and take some of the beatings he's taken.
He just seems to break down when he is not the bully or is being pushed around himself.Out of all the things Cotto that took him down a few notches in my book was when he low blowed Zab constantly to save his life...

The thing is not everyone has what it takes to bully the likes of Miguel Cotto and I highly doubt that someone who hasn't made 154 in over 5 years and is 37 going on 38 years old is going to bully Miguel Cotto better than Shane Mosley could.

Shane Mosley has a better chin, faster hands, sharper punches....putting Mayorga in with Cotto you can expect another version of the Abdullaev fight where Cotto boxes more, picks his time to pour on the punishment, and then circles out and draws Mayorga into more counter punches.

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Shane Mosley has a better chin, faster hands, sharper punches....putting Mayorga in with Cotto you can expect another version of the Abdullaev fight where Cotto boxes more, picks his time to pour on the punishment, and then circles out and draws Mayorga into more counter punches.

I dont think Shane has the better chin. Ricardo took some massive clean shots, also some free ones off Forrest and didnt blink. Whereas Forrest had Mosley in trouble. Then theres the fact that Mayorga did what Mosley couldnt to Forrest. Which is why I say a properly prepared Mayorga is hell for any fighter at light middle and below. It may be too late now for Mayorgas legs but its Cotto who I dont rate and at a weight that suits Mayorga and not Cotto.

Mayorga only got stopped by body shots from Trinidad, he took a ton on the chin and again some free left hooks, 3 in a row I think. Mayorga has one of the best chins of the last 10 years. What let him down was his preparation, out of the ring for too long, not sharp and not fit but no one takes one clean shot better than Mayorga, it was only his conditioning, hed slow down and start taking too many of them. Which is why I give him a very good chance if this fight does happen because of the rounds he has under his belt from the Walker fight.

Im not saying its a massive acheivment beating walker but it is impressive for a 37 year old that hasnt fought for over 2 years to come in at a months notice and fight a naturally stronger, younger opponent and have enough stamina to go on to the 9th round and put that man down. Andy Lee may be no great shakes but hes a big, young Emannual Steward fighter and he couldnt deck Walker. So all in all that was a very good result for Ricardo and it puts him in a position he hasnt been in the last 4 or 5 years. Hes going in to a big fight not rusty. He can start sharper and also now has a fitness base for this next training camp and not a shed load of weight to lose either.

It is officially happening now as well!

Arum Expects Wild Verbal War With Cotto, Mayorga, King - Boxing News

[ElTerribleMorales]

Shane Mosley has a better chin, faster hands, sharper punches....putting Mayorga in with Cotto you can expect another version of the Abdullaev fight where Cotto boxes more, picks his time to pour on the punishment, and then circles out and draws Mayorga into more counter punches.

I dont think Shane has the better chin. Ricardo took some massive clean shots, also some free ones off Forrest and didnt blink. Whereas Forrest had Mosley in trouble. Then theres the fact that Mayorga did what Mosley couldnt to Forrest. Which is why I say a properly prepared Mayorga is hell for any fighter at light middle and below. It may be too late now for Mayorgas legs but its Cotto who I dont rate and at a weight that suits Mayorga and not Cotto.

Mayorga only got stopped by body shots from Trinidad, he took a ton on the chin and again some free left hooks, 3 in a row I think. Mayorga has one of the best chins of the last 10 years. What let him down was his preparation, out of the ring for too long, not sharp and not fit but no one takes one clean shot better than Mayorga, it was only his conditioning, hed slow down and start taking too many of them. Which is why I give him a very good chance if this fight does happen because of the rounds he has under his belt from the Walker fight.

Im not saying its a massive acheivment beating walker but it is impressive for a 37 year old that hasnt fought for over 2 years to come in at a months notice and fight a naturally stronger, younger opponent and have enough stamina to go on to the 9th round and put that man down. Andy Lee may be no great shakes but hes a big, young Emannual Steward fighter and he couldnt deck Walker. So all in all that was a very good result for Ricardo and it puts him in a position he hasnt been in the last 4 or 5 years. Hes going in to a big fight not rusty. He can start sharper and also now has a fitness base for this next training camp and not a shed load of weight to lose either.

It is officially happening now as well!

Arum Expects Wild Verbal War With Cotto, Mayorga, King - Boxing News

are you kidding me? lol Mosley has only been dropped once, and it was caused by a headbutt, Mayorga has been put on his ass numerous times (albeit in only two fights), the fact that Mosley went tooth and nail with a PRIME DLH for 24 rounds and Mayorga couldn't even manage to get to the 10th against Oscar when he was starting to fade pretty much wraps up who has/had the better chin

[TitoFan]

Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...

Im hoping that Ricardo gets in to good shape for Cotto, if he does that it certainly wont be a shock to see Cotto take his worse loss. In that kind of shape and form Mayorga would be at least competative with anyone and id say he beats Margarito easier than he does Cotto. At least Cotto knows how to run sideways

Your hate for Cotto oozes out of your pores. I hope you're not too emotionally affected if and when Cotto knocks out Mayorga.

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Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...

Im hoping that Ricardo gets in to good shape for Cotto, if he does that it certainly wont be a shock to see Cotto take his worse loss. In that kind of shape and form Mayorga would be at least competative with anyone and id say he beats Margarito easier than he does Cotto. At least Cotto knows how to run sideways

Your hate for Cotto oozes out of your pores. I hope you're not too emotionally affected if and when Cotto knocks out Mayorga.

I dont hate Cotto, in fact I dont really follow any of his fights. His style is quite dull and boring he doesnt have a higher gear to get in to a real tear up and from what iv seen, when his opponents turn it up or dont wilt he just gives up on his knees. I just love Mayorgas style and if its Cotto he has to crush on his way then so be it.

As for Mosley lasting 24 rounds with De La Hoya

[ICB]

Shane Mosley has a better chin, faster hands, sharper punches....putting Mayorga in with Cotto you can expect another version of the Abdullaev fight where Cotto boxes more, picks his time to pour on the punishment, and then circles out and draws Mayorga into more counter punches.

I dont think Shane has the better chin. Ricardo took some massive clean shots, also some free ones off Forrest and didnt blink. Whereas Forrest had Mosley in trouble. Then theres the fact that Mayorga did what Mosley couldnt to Forrest. Which is why I say a properly prepared Mayorga is hell for any fighter at light middle and below. It may be too late now for Mayorgas legs but its Cotto who I dont rate and at a weight that suits Mayorga and not Cotto.

Mayorga only got stopped by body shots from Trinidad, he took a ton on the chin and again some free left hooks, 3 in a row I think. Mayorga has one of the best chins of the last 10 years. What let him down was his preparation, out of the ring for too long, not sharp and not fit but no one takes one clean shot better than Mayorga, it was only his conditioning, hed slow down and start taking too many of them. Which is why I give him a very good chance if this fight does happen because of the rounds he has under his belt from the Walker fight.

Im not saying its a massive acheivment beating walker but it is impressive for a 37 year old that hasnt fought for over 2 years to come in at a months notice and fight a naturally stronger, younger opponent and have enough stamina to go on to the 9th round and put that man down. Andy Lee may be no great shakes but hes a big, young Emannual Steward fighter and he couldnt deck Walker. So all in all that was a very good result for Ricardo and it puts him in a position he hasnt been in the last 4 or 5 years. Hes going in to a big fight not rusty. He can start sharper and also now has a fitness base for this next training camp and not a shed load of weight to lose either.

It is officially happening now as well!

Arum Expects Wild Verbal War With Cotto, Mayorga, King - Boxing News

You can't compare fights like that, you could also say Ricardo Mayorga was dropped and dominated vs ODLH in only 6 rounds. Yet Shane Mosley went 24 rounds with ODLH without ever looking in trouble.

Also Ricardo Mayorga never took anywhere near the punishment, Shane Mosley took in the 2nd and 10th rounds of the 1st Vernon Forrest fight.

[ICB]

Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...

Im hoping that Ricardo gets in to good shape for Cotto, if he does that it certainly wont be a shock to see Cotto take his worse loss. In that kind of shape and form Mayorga would be at least competative with anyone and id say he beats Margarito easier than he does Cotto. At least Cotto knows how to run sideways

Your hate for Cotto oozes out of your pores. I hope you're not too emotionally affected if and when Cotto knocks out Mayorga.

I dont hate Cotto, in fact I dont really follow any of his fights. His style is quite dull and boring he doesnt have a higher gear to get in to a real tear up and from what iv seen, when his opponents turn it up or dont wilt he just gives up on his knees. I just love Mayorgas style and if its Cotto he has to crush on his way then so be it.

As for Mosley lasting 24 rounds with De La Hoya

You are joking right ? you've obviously never seen his fight vs Ricardo Torres, which one of the commentator's made a comparison being like the 140 pound version of Foreman/Lyle.

Your talking utter nonsense.

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Shane Mosley has a better chin, faster hands, sharper punches....putting Mayorga in with Cotto you can expect another version of the Abdullaev fight where Cotto boxes more, picks his time to pour on the punishment, and then circles out and draws Mayorga into more counter punches.

I dont think Shane has the better chin. Ricardo took some massive clean shots, also some free ones off Forrest and didnt blink. Whereas Forrest had Mosley in trouble. Then theres the fact that Mayorga did what Mosley couldnt to Forrest. Which is why I say a properly prepared Mayorga is hell for any fighter at light middle and below. It may be too late now for Mayorgas legs but its Cotto who I dont rate and at a weight that suits Mayorga and not Cotto.

Mayorga only got stopped by body shots from Trinidad, he took a ton on the chin and again some free left hooks, 3 in a row I think. Mayorga has one of the best chins of the last 10 years. What let him down was his preparation, out of the ring for too long, not sharp and not fit but no one takes one clean shot better than Mayorga, it was only his conditioning, hed slow down and start taking too many of them. Which is why I give him a very good chance if this fight does happen because of the rounds he has under his belt from the Walker fight.

Im not saying its a massive acheivment beating walker but it is impressive for a 37 year old that hasnt fought for over 2 years to come in at a months notice and fight a naturally stronger, younger opponent and have enough stamina to go on to the 9th round and put that man down. Andy Lee may be no great shakes but hes a big, young Emannual Steward fighter and he couldnt deck Walker. So all in all that was a very good result for Ricardo and it puts him in a position he hasnt been in the last 4 or 5 years. Hes going in to a big fight not rusty. He can start sharper and also now has a fitness base for this next training camp and not a shed load of weight to lose either.

It is officially happening now as well!

Arum Expects Wild Verbal War With Cotto, Mayorga, King - Boxing News

You can't compare fights like that, you could also say Ricardo Mayorga was dropped and dominated vs ODLH in only 6 rounds. Yet Shane Mosley went 24 rounds with ODLH without ever looking in trouble.

Also Ricardo Mayorga never took anywhere near the punishment, Shane Mosley took in the 2nd and 10th rounds of the 1st Vernon Forrest fight.

Look right above your post for your answer

The reason mayorga didnt take as much punishment is because he was better against Forrest quite simply.

[ICB]

Shane Mosley has a better chin, faster hands, sharper punches....putting Mayorga in with Cotto you can expect another version of the Abdullaev fight where Cotto boxes more, picks his time to pour on the punishment, and then circles out and draws Mayorga into more counter punches.

I dont think Shane has the better chin. Ricardo took some massive clean shots, also some free ones off Forrest and didnt blink. Whereas Forrest had Mosley in trouble. Then theres the fact that Mayorga did what Mosley couldnt to Forrest. Which is why I say a properly prepared Mayorga is hell for any fighter at light middle and below. It may be too late now for Mayorgas legs but its Cotto who I dont rate and at a weight that suits Mayorga and not Cotto.

Mayorga only got stopped by body shots from Trinidad, he took a ton on the chin and again some free left hooks, 3 in a row I think. Mayorga has one of the best chins of the last 10 years. What let him down was his preparation, out of the ring for too long, not sharp and not fit but no one takes one clean shot better than Mayorga, it was only his conditioning, hed slow down and start taking too many of them. Which is why I give him a very good chance if this fight does happen because of the rounds he has under his belt from the Walker fight.

Im not saying its a massive acheivment beating walker but it is impressive for a 37 year old that hasnt fought for over 2 years to come in at a months notice and fight a naturally stronger, younger opponent and have enough stamina to go on to the 9th round and put that man down. Andy Lee may be no great shakes but hes a big, young Emannual Steward fighter and he couldnt deck Walker. So all in all that was a very good result for Ricardo and it puts him in a position he hasnt been in the last 4 or 5 years. Hes going in to a big fight not rusty. He can start sharper and also now has a fitness base for this next training camp and not a shed load of weight to lose either.

It is officially happening now as well!

Arum Expects Wild Verbal War With Cotto, Mayorga, King - Boxing News

You can't compare fights like that, you could also say Ricardo Mayorga was dropped and dominated vs ODLH in only 6 rounds. Yet Shane Mosley went 24 rounds with ODLH without ever looking in trouble.

Also Ricardo Mayorga never took anywhere near the punishment, Shane Mosley took in the 2nd and 10th rounds of the 1st Vernon Forrest fight.

Look right above your post for your answer

The reason mayorga didnt take as much punishment is because he was better against Forrest quite simply.

But what has that got to do with your claim, that Ricardo Mayorga has a better chin ? i gave you the examples of the ODLH fight. And also that Shane Mosley got battered in some rounds vs Vernon Forrest. Taking much more than Ricardo Mayorga ever did.

Ricardo Mayorga's style bothered Vernon Forrest but again, i don't see what that has to do with what you said. Plus Shane Mosley has never been stopped where as Ricardo Mayorga has multiple times, and also by Shane Mosley.

So i don't understand how Ricardo Mayorga has a better chin in your mind.

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Shane Mosley has a better chin, faster hands, sharper punches....putting Mayorga in with Cotto you can expect another version of the Abdullaev fight where Cotto boxes more, picks his time to pour on the punishment, and then circles out and draws Mayorga into more counter punches.

I dont think Shane has the better chin. Ricardo took some massive clean shots, also some free ones off Forrest and didnt blink. Whereas Forrest had Mosley in trouble. Then theres the fact that Mayorga did what Mosley couldnt to Forrest. Which is why I say a properly prepared Mayorga is hell for any fighter at light middle and below. It may be too late now for Mayorgas legs but its Cotto who I dont rate and at a weight that suits Mayorga and not Cotto.

Mayorga only got stopped by body shots from Trinidad, he took a ton on the chin and again some free left hooks, 3 in a row I think. Mayorga has one of the best chins of the last 10 years. What let him down was his preparation, out of the ring for too long, not sharp and not fit but no one takes one clean shot better than Mayorga, it was only his conditioning, hed slow down and start taking too many of them. Which is why I give him a very good chance if this fight does happen because of the rounds he has under his belt from the Walker fight.

Im not saying its a massive acheivment beating walker but it is impressive for a 37 year old that hasnt fought for over 2 years to come in at a months notice and fight a naturally stronger, younger opponent and have enough stamina to go on to the 9th round and put that man down. Andy Lee may be no great shakes but hes a big, young Emannual Steward fighter and he couldnt deck Walker. So all in all that was a very good result for Ricardo and it puts him in a position he hasnt been in the last 4 or 5 years. Hes going in to a big fight not rusty. He can start sharper and also now has a fitness base for this next training camp and not a shed load of weight to lose either.

It is officially happening now as well!

Arum Expects Wild Verbal War With Cotto, Mayorga, King - Boxing News

You can't compare fights like that, you could also say Ricardo Mayorga was dropped and dominated vs ODLH in only 6 rounds. Yet Shane Mosley went 24 rounds with ODLH without ever looking in trouble.

Also Ricardo Mayorga never took anywhere near the punishment, Shane Mosley took in the 2nd and 10th rounds of the 1st Vernon Forrest fight.

Look right above your post for your answer

The reason mayorga didnt take as much punishment is because he was better against Forrest quite simply.

But what has that got to do with your claim, that Ricardo Mayorga has a better chin ? i gave you the examples of the ODLH fight. And also that Shane Mosley got battered in some rounds vs Vernon Forrest. Taking much more than Ricardo Mayorga ever did.

Ricardo Mayorga's style bothered Vernon Forrest but again, i don't see what that has to do with what you said. Plus Shane Mosley has never been stopped where as Ricardo Mayorga has multiple times, and also by Shane Mosley.

So i don't understand how Ricardo Mayorga has a better chin in your mind.

At the height of their games, Shane got hurt by Forrest but Mayorga didnt, even though he offered free shots.

Mayorga wasnt the same fighter after the Forrest fights, he didnt have the same interest. He didnt try to stay active, he just sat around doing nothing for months and would take big money offers and so he was never fit for his fights, he would fade and then get hit and thats it really but when he was training and fit, he took everything Forrest could throw and land. Even Trinidad didnt really hurt him to the chin either.

The Mosley fight was lack of fitness again, just started slowing down. You reckon Mosley could take those left hooks from a middle weight Trinidad without his legs buckling?