Same sex marriage

[Kev]

I don't know what it's like in Canada, the UK/Europe/Australia, and the rest of the World but this has been a really big issue here in the U.S..

Call me homophobic or whatever, but to my way of thinking gays and lesbians are mentally fucked up, disgusting pieces of shit and marriage is between a man and a woman.

I'm not trying to debate this, i'd just like to hear some opinions.

That is a terrible thing to say, like plants some people are actually born in between like a hermaphrodite.

I once thought like you do and it was from listening to my parents and peers which I now realize was a weakness on my part in wanting to blend with the general consensus. So there is hope for you .

To say Gays cannot experience and share love, because of something so trivial as sexual orientation is actually a contradiction in itself and proves that real love, not lust love, can and does exist only outside of all judgments.

Some gays are also celebrate.

There are many people who also see the gay scene as a fashion accessory to a lifestyle and sexually view an ass an ass in regards to their habits etc and find that deplorable, but to single out someones real love for another is worse in my eyes.

If you have or had kids are you teaching them that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle?

Acceptable might not be the right word.

I would just teach him to understand that if a man is Gay then that that is God's way of terminating his gene pool.

You know, natural selection and all...

Hence I am not perturbed by Gay marriage as much as I am Gay parents. That's just taking the piss!

I don't get that at all! It's really creepy to me.

If you want to have kids then find a partner of the opposite sex and make them.

I don't even see what it has to do with equality as people aren't forced to take the partners they do. If you want a normal family life with kids marry a woman. Being gay is not an identity it's a physical action.

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

I could give a fuck if gay couples start raising kids.

Who cares? It's not like straight couples are doing a great job... Actually, many straight couples are doing a disgustingly bad job at raising their kids. Every time I hear somebodies little shit screaming in public, I want to scream at the parents to get them the hell out of there.

Gays can't do much worse. They really can't.

[Gandalf]

Nothing to do with religion? Then what is it ultimately, what are they offending of you?

The whole gay mentality, the fact that they're trying to make their psychotic, self serving, lifestyle mainstream and acceptable. "Marriage" is a union between a man and a woman, which usually produces children, (a family) fags and lesbians can call their "unions" what ever they want, but don't confuse it with a real marriage.

Same arguments used for the 3/5's law. It is what it is, you weren't looking for a discussion here, just looking to vent. I understand.

Vent, hear what others had to say, and express my opinion, but you're correct, it's not something I care to debate.
I grew up in an era where homosexuals were considered mentally ill, social deviants, they wern't allowed to serve in the military, and the idea that they could get "married" someday was thought to be a joke.

Unless you are involved in a forced marriage to a man then it shouldn't bother you. I would hate to be married to a man as buggery isn't something I find terribly appealing, but if like minded others want to freely join in a same sex marriage, then it really shouldn't matter to anyone else.

Mind your own business and let others who are causing no harm to anyone else to indulge in what they like. It isn't a big deal and typically it is religious people with their small minded doctrines who get upset by it all.

Yay for abortion, yay for same sex marriage, yay for contraception. Honestly, the church and it's views are archaic and beyond belief and it is no wonder young Britain's simply don't bother going to church anymore. It has little relevance.

So you've tried it eh?

Well no, and frankly it just seems weird to me. Really only gay men should be into it, but seemingly a lot of straight men have a thing for it and have it on the brain as posting on here seems to suggest.

It's something that I really never consider. I only ever talk about homosexuality in a humourous way and am all for people being gay, but it's not for me at all.

Gay sex just sounds a bit dirty to me, but I should think that or else I would be gay.

[Gandalf]

I could give a fuck if gay couples start raising kids.

Who cares? It's not like straight couples are doing a great job... Actually, many straight couples are doing a disgustingly bad job at raising their kids. Every time I hear somebodies little shit screaming in public, I want to scream at the parents to get them the hell out of there.

Gays can't do much worse. They really can't.

Exactly, look at the youth of today and societies are falling apart and suddenly we want to say that the world might tumble if gays start raising kids. What a joke!

A lot of straight families should really have never been given the chance to begin with as their child raising habits show a shocking disregard for how to nurture a child.

As a straight man I refuse to father for good reason. I would be shite, it would be good if more would have the same common sense. Now if a gay couple had the patience and maturity, then absolutely, go for it, and nobody else has a right to judge you. I'm all for good parents. Gender doesn't matter.

Using the Bible as a reason against gay parenting or same sex marriage is a farce because the Bible in itself is a farce. It's just a book written by primitive men long ago. Times have changed and the Bible means little except to pea brained herds who munch on grass and start bleating when a modicum of common sense is applied.

[Gandalf]

I should probably change my avatar and the thing about bumming. It totally detracts from when I say I am not into gay sex.

[Mars_ax]

I could give a fuck if gay couples start raising kids.

Who cares? It's not like straight couples are doing a great job... Actually, many straight couples are doing a disgustingly bad job at raising their kids. Every time I hear somebodies little shit screaming in public, I want to scream at the parents to get them the hell out of there.

Gays can't do much worse. They really can't.

Exactly, look at the youth of today and societies are falling apart and suddenly we want to say that the world might tumble if gays start raising kids. What a joke!

A lot of straight families should really have never been given the chance to begin with as their child raising habits show a shocking disregard for how to nurture a child.

As a straight man I refuse to father for good reason. I would be shite, it would be good if more would have the same common sense. Now if a gay couple had the patience and maturity, then absolutely, go for it, and nobody else has a right to judge you. I'm all for good parents. Gender doesn't matter.

Using the Bible as a reason against gay parenting or same sex marriage is a farce because the Bible in itself is a farce. It's just a book written by primitive men long ago. Times have changed and the Bible means little except to pea brained herds who munch on grass and start bleating when a modicum of common sense is applied.

A "marriage" is a union between the 2 genders, that usually produces children, and/or a family. It's been that way for 1000's of years. I see no reason for making some special/queer legal provision to accommodate those who choose a controversial homosexual lifestyle.

Sure there's bad "straight" parents, but i've gotta believe that there's no replacement for being raised by a man and a woman in a functioning family unit. A legally married mother and father with children is the basis of human society, there's no substitute that matches that combination, and it's the way it's meant to be.

[Gandalf]

I could give a fuck if gay couples start raising kids.

Who cares? It's not like straight couples are doing a great job... Actually, many straight couples are doing a disgustingly bad job at raising their kids. Every time I hear somebodies little shit screaming in public, I want to scream at the parents to get them the hell out of there.

Gays can't do much worse. They really can't.

Exactly, look at the youth of today and societies are falling apart and suddenly we want to say that the world might tumble if gays start raising kids. What a joke!

A lot of straight families should really have never been given the chance to begin with as their child raising habits show a shocking disregard for how to nurture a child.

As a straight man I refuse to father for good reason. I would be shite, it would be good if more would have the same common sense. Now if a gay couple had the patience and maturity, then absolutely, go for it, and nobody else has a right to judge you. I'm all for good parents. Gender doesn't matter.

Using the Bible as a reason against gay parenting or same sex marriage is a farce because the Bible in itself is a farce. It's just a book written by primitive men long ago. Times have changed and the Bible means little except to pea brained herds who munch on grass and start bleating when a modicum of common sense is applied.

A "marriage" is a union between the 2 genders, that usually produces children, and/or a family. It's been that way for 1000's of years, and I see no need to make some special legal provision for those who choose a homosexual lifestyle.

Sure there's bad "straight" parents, but i've gotta believe that there's no replacement for being raised by a man and a woman in a functioning family unit. A legally married mother and father with children is the basis of human society, there's no substitute that matches that combination, and it's the way it's meant to be.

The way it's meant to be according to whom?

Marriage is between people that love and that is all. What does it matter to you if others of the same gender marry? I don't get it really.

Unless the guy is kissing you and saying "marry me or I will bugger you to death", then it shouldn't really matter.

All it is is a combining of accounts and a trust of loyalty. Why do you care so much?

Do you really think that gay people don't have the same feelings that straight people do? In terms of reliability, morality etc?

I was the child of a terrible marriage and a quick divorce and a deprived upbringing. It is hardly an ideal. Two loving fathers would have been much better.

[Mars_ax]

I could give a fuck if gay couples start raising kids.

Who cares? It's not like straight couples are doing a great job... Actually, many straight couples are doing a disgustingly bad job at raising their kids. Every time I hear somebodies little shit screaming in public, I want to scream at the parents to get them the hell out of there.

Gays can't do much worse. They really can't.

Exactly, look at the youth of today and societies are falling apart and suddenly we want to say that the world might tumble if gays start raising kids. What a joke!

A lot of straight families should really have never been given the chance to begin with as their child raising habits show a shocking disregard for how to nurture a child.

As a straight man I refuse to father for good reason. I would be shite, it would be good if more would have the same common sense. Now if a gay couple had the patience and maturity, then absolutely, go for it, and nobody else has a right to judge you. I'm all for good parents. Gender doesn't matter.

Using the Bible as a reason against gay parenting or same sex marriage is a farce because the Bible in itself is a farce. It's just a book written by primitive men long ago. Times have changed and the Bible means little except to pea brained herds who munch on grass and start bleating when a modicum of common sense is applied.

A "marriage" is a union between the 2 genders, that usually produces children, and/or a family. It's been that way for 1000's of years, and I see no need to make some special legal provision for those who choose a homosexual lifestyle.

Sure there's bad "straight" parents, but i've gotta believe that there's no replacement for being raised by a man and a woman in a functioning family unit. A legally married mother and father with children is the basis of human society, there's no substitute that matches that combination, and it's the way it's meant to be.

The way it's meant to be according to whom?

Marriage is between people that love and that is all. What does it matter to you if others of the same gender marry? I don't get it really.

Unless the guy is kissing you and saying "marry me or I will bugger you to death", then it shouldn't really matter.

All it is is a combining of accounts and a trust of loyalty. Why do you care so much?

Do you really think that gay people don't have the same feelings that straight people do? In terms of reliability, morality etc?

I was the child of a terrible marriage and a quick divorce and a deprived upbringing. It is hardly an ideal. Two loving fathers would have been much better.

According to me, it's simply my opinion. If you're looking for a debate, you won't find one here, at least not with me. Why did I post the thread? To say what I thought, and hear the opinions of others.

Have a great day Miles.

cheers

[Gandalf]

I could give a fuck if gay couples start raising kids.

Who cares? It's not like straight couples are doing a great job... Actually, many straight couples are doing a disgustingly bad job at raising their kids. Every time I hear somebodies little shit screaming in public, I want to scream at the parents to get them the hell out of there.

Gays can't do much worse. They really can't.

Exactly, look at the youth of today and societies are falling apart and suddenly we want to say that the world might tumble if gays start raising kids. What a joke!

A lot of straight families should really have never been given the chance to begin with as their child raising habits show a shocking disregard for how to nurture a child.

As a straight man I refuse to father for good reason. I would be shite, it would be good if more would have the same common sense. Now if a gay couple had the patience and maturity, then absolutely, go for it, and nobody else has a right to judge you. I'm all for good parents. Gender doesn't matter.

Using the Bible as a reason against gay parenting or same sex marriage is a farce because the Bible in itself is a farce. It's just a book written by primitive men long ago. Times have changed and the Bible means little except to pea brained herds who munch on grass and start bleating when a modicum of common sense is applied.

A "marriage" is a union between the 2 genders, that usually produces children, and/or a family. It's been that way for 1000's of years, and I see no need to make some special legal provision for those who choose a homosexual lifestyle.

Sure there's bad "straight" parents, but i've gotta believe that there's no replacement for being raised by a man and a woman in a functioning family unit. A legally married mother and father with children is the basis of human society, there's no substitute that matches that combination, and it's the way it's meant to be.

The way it's meant to be according to whom?

Marriage is between people that love and that is all. What does it matter to you if others of the same gender marry? I don't get it really.

Unless the guy is kissing you and saying "marry me or I will bugger you to death", then it shouldn't really matter.

All it is is a combining of accounts and a trust of loyalty. Why do you care so much?

Do you really think that gay people don't have the same feelings that straight people do? In terms of reliability, morality etc?

I was the child of a terrible marriage and a quick divorce and a deprived upbringing. It is hardly an ideal. Two loving fathers would have been much better.

According to me, it's simply my opinion. If you're looking for a debate, you won't find one here, at least not with me. Why did I post the thread? To say what I thought, and hear the opinions of others.

Have a great day Miles.

cheers

Bit weird. You started the thread.

All the best too.

But you started this weirdness.

[Mars_ax]

A "marriage" is a union between the 2 genders, that usually produces children, and/or a family. It's been that way for 1000's of years, and I see no need to make some special legal provision for those who choose a homosexual lifestyle.

Sure there's bad "straight" parents, but i've gotta believe that there's no replacement for being raised by a man and a woman in a functioning family unit. A legally married mother and father with children is the basis of human society, there's no substitute that matches that combination, and it's the way it's meant to be.

The way it's meant to be according to whom?

Marriage is between people that love and that is all. What does it matter to you if others of the same gender marry? I don't get it really.

Unless the guy is kissing you and saying "marry me or I will bugger you to death", then it shouldn't really matter.

All it is is a combining of accounts and a trust of loyalty. Why do you care so much?

Do you really think that gay people don't have the same feelings that straight people do? In terms of reliability, morality etc?

I was the child of a terrible marriage and a quick divorce and a deprived upbringing. It is hardly an ideal. Two loving fathers would have been much better.

According to me, it's simply my opinion. If you're looking for a debate, you won't find one here, at least not with me. Why did I post the thread? To say what I thought, and hear the opinions of others.

Have a great day Miles.

Bit weird. You started the thread.

All the best too.

But you started this weirdness.

Yes miles, i'm really strange, I believe i'd rather have a tooth pulled without novocain than trying to debate/discuss fag marriage or any endemic political, or social issue in America with you.

[Gandalf]

Gays are just a fact of life and are human beings. I just see no need to discriminate against other human beings on silly factors such as colour, gender or sexuality.

As long as one isn't hurting other people by their actions then I see no reason to restrict it. I am open minded on these things and your aren't and that is the essential difference.

[Mars_ax]

Gays are just a fact of life and are human beings. I just see no need to discriminate against other human beings on silly factors such as colour, gender or sexuality.

As long as one isn't hurting other people by their actions then I see no reason to restrict it. I am open minded on these things and your aren't and that is the essential difference.

Marrriage = is the union between a man and a woman which usually produces children.

For what it's worth, other than same sex marriage, i'm fairly open minded about fags & lesbians living their chosen lifestyle, leave 'um be. What i'm not is open/liberal minded to the point of stupidity and/or a condescending, patronizing, "overeducated" nitwit who thinks they know it all.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Havin thought about it, im not so perturbed by the term 'gurdian' - if it were at all used to describe same sex parents - however the word 'parent' just seems too sacred to be given to homosexuals...

[Master]

I love lesbians.

[Chino]

Back in the day nobody in their right mind would have ever imagined that gays would be parading in the cities, looking for support, having their own tv channels, their own magazines, etc. and now fighting for people to support their desire to get married. I wouldn’t be surprised if the next generation saw a 50 year old women/men parading the streets with thier 13 year old boyfriend/girlfriend all in the name of love asking the public to support them and be open minded and accepting of their relationship. Sure, we might say “That’s wrong and disgusting. No way that will happen”. That’s the same thing people thought about homosexuals/lesbians not so long ago.