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    Gotta go. But in short... I don't believe in same sex marriage. I believe in equal rights as far as jobs, etc. I believe they can live together as consenting adults wherever and whenever they want. I believe they should not be discrimated against in MOST areas. But... I don't believe they should be allowed to get married... they should not be allowed to adopt, except under extreme circumstances (when there is no other viable option)... and they should not be able to demand the same exact rights as heterosexual couples. Of course, that is strictly my opinion and I respect everyone else's opinion. I'm also not fanatical about my own opinion. It's strictly just that... an opinion.


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    Gotta go. But in short... I don't believe in same sex marriage. I believe in equal rights as far as jobs, etc. I believe they can live together as consenting adults wherever and whenever they want. I believe they should not be discrimated against in MOST areas. But... I don't believe they should be allowed to get married... they should not be allowed to adopt, except under extreme circumstances (when there is no other viable option)... and they should not be able to demand the same exact rights as heterosexual couples. Of course, that is strictly my opinion and I respect everyone else's opinion. I'm also not fanatical about my own opinion. It's strictly just that... an opinion.

    I am basically of this opinion myself.

    I don't see gay people as a legitimate minority in the same way for example that black people are, or the disabled or deaf people are.

    They aren't being discriminated against on the basis of anything inherent about them, it's just a choice. They choose to enter into same sex relationships and choose to want to marry them.

    It's a huge difference from say denying someone rights because of the colour of their skin.

    Also, it's only social conditioning and the vocal promotion of gay rights over the last 30 years or so that means people see it differently from incest, beastophilia, polygmy etc.

    50 years all these things were uniformly deemed to be immoral.

    The irony is that now most people will insist that homosexuality is lovely and fine and perfect, yet they themselves would probably recoil in disgust if they were asked to practice it themselves.

    It's an interesting point. I can't think of any other area of life where people could feel physical revulsion at participating in something themselves, but be totally in favour of other's having the right to partake in it.

    Humanists and gay advocates have worked wonders in changing public opinion.

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    I don't know what it's like in Canada, the UK/Europe/Australia, and the rest of the World but this has been a really big issue here in the U.S..

    Call me homophobic or whatever, but to my way of thinking gays and lesbians are mentally fucked up, disgusting pieces of shit and marriage is between a man and a woman.

    I'm not trying to debate this, i'd just like to hear some opinions.
    That is a terrible thing to say, like plants some people are actually born in between like a hermaphrodite.

    I once thought like you do and it was from listening to my parents and peers which I now realize was a weakness on my part in wanting to blend with the general consensus. So there is hope for you .

    To say Gays cannot experience and share love, because of something so trivial as sexual orientation is actually a contradiction in itself and proves that real love, not lust love, can and does exist only outside of all judgments.

    Some gays are also celebrate.

    There are many people who also see the gay scene as a fashion accessory to a lifestyle and sexually view an ass an ass in regards to their habits etc and find that deplorable, but to single out someones real love for another is worse in my eyes.
    If you have or had kids are you teaching them that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle?
    I am teaching them that God gives everyone freedom of Choice first in everything.
    This means people who fight against others free will decisions (including most religions) are all of the opposite energy to freedom and love and are self serving entities they do not serve others; they steal energy and life from others with their judgments.

    This also goes for the false Christian church which teaches fear and hatred of others and yet says: Thou shall not judge or ye be judged with the same rod.

    Just more proof their scriptures were messed with in 600 AD give or take a few years.

    Marriage isnt just a religious thing these days either.

    All religions do not acknowledge each others marriages, only governments acknowledge all of them.

    So with that in mind where does the only "holiest of thou" are to get married
    fit in with your scope unless you are sucked into one of the religions that is trapped within judgment?

    Which all religions state (Dont go there, or you are there).
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    I don't know what it's like in Canada, the UK/Europe/Australia, and the rest of the World but this has been a really big issue here in the U.S..

    Call me homophobic or whatever, but to my way of thinking gays and lesbians are mentally fucked up, disgusting pieces of shit and marriage is between a man and a woman.

    I'm not trying to debate this, i'd just like to hear some opinions.
    That is a terrible thing to say, like plants some people are actually born in between like a hermaphrodite.

    I once thought like you do and it was from listening to my parents and peers which I now realize was a weakness on my part in wanting to blend with the general consensus. So there is hope for you .

    To say Gays cannot experience and share love, because of something so trivial as sexual orientation is actually a contradiction in itself and proves that real love, not lust love, can and does exist only outside of all judgments.

    Some gays are also celebrate.

    There are many people who also see the gay scene as a fashion accessory to a lifestyle and sexually view an ass an ass in regards to their habits etc and find that deplorable, but to single out someones real love for another is worse in my eyes.
    If you have or had kids are you teaching them that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle?
    I am teaching them that God gives everyone freedom of Choice first in everything.
    This means people who fight against others free will decisions (including most religions) are all of the opposite energy to freedom and love and are self serving entities they do not serve others; they steal energy and life from others with their judgments.

    This also goes for the false Christian church which teaches fear and hatred of others and yet says: Thou shall not judge or ye be judged with the same rod.

    Just more proof their scriptures were messed with in 600 AD give or take a few years.

    Marriage isnt just a religious thing these days either.

    All religions do not acknowledge each others marriages, only governments acknowledge all of them.

    So with that in mind where does the only "holiest of thou" are to get married
    fit in with your scope unless you are sucked into one of the religions that is trapped within judgment?

    Which all religions state (Dont go there, or you are there).
    So Bilbo could bang Merry and Pipin and not be married to any one of them shocking, Gay Hobbit s
    what ever next .

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    Utter,utter,utter bollocks.
    You are simply intolerant of Christianity now you have left it mate. Cognitive dissonance theory in action. That is all.

    I am all for gay couples having exactly the same legal status and protections enshrined in law, the same as straight couples. A civil contract? Sure.

    A Christian marriage? How can that be enforced, the Bible says it is wrong and unlawful.

    The gay lobby is so intolerant. They have all the legal rights they need to live full and accepted lives. But they continue to push further.

    In a true and free society everyone has the right to their beliefs. That includes those who don't agree with you.

    If somebody wants to believe homosexuality is a sin, then that is their right.

    It's actually such a warped view of equal rights that we have. If Christians behaved the same way they would be taking secular organisations to court and winning cases against David Attenborogh for offending them by describing evolution on his tv programs, they would be suing people for claiming God did not exist etc.

    People have different opinions. It's part of life.
    So are you offended by people that cheat on their spouses, or in fact simply lust over other people's spouses?
    I'm not sure what point you are making? I don't have an opinion either way about what people get up to, including gay people, and religious people. I am against the forcing of other people's opinions onto society however.

    If people want to have same sex relationships, or extra marital affairs, or fuck their siblings, their pets etc. Then fine, do what you want.

    But when they try to make it so everybody else has to embrace their lifestyle and taking to court those who disapprove so that they suddenly become criminalised then I am entirely against that.

    Yes, a couple have the right to be gay and live together. But equally other people have the right to believe that such a lifestyle is wrong.

    Back to the original topic. I believe in civil partnerships with the couple having the same legal rights and tax breaks a straight couple would have. I am totally opposed to allowing same sex marriage in a Christian sense as it is explicitly clear that such a thing is in violation of what marriage is and nobody has the right to change another's faith and religion.
    I can't speak for how it is in the UK, but civil unions in the US do not hold the same rights as marriage, for me that is where the problem lies. I do not have a Christian marriage, but I am legally married, does this violate what marriage is to you?
    Then I am in agreement with you. I dont believe any group should suffer discrimination and gay couples wanting to commit to each other in lifelong partnership should absolutely have the same legal rights as straight couples.

    They shouldn't have the right to be able to marry in a Christian church ceremony however as it clearly violates the biblical concept of what marriage is. Regarding other religions, it should be up to whatever that religion believes to be marriage that is upheld.

    Again with your own marriage as I see it you are legally marrried and are married according to whatever religion or none that you married under.
    So by that reasoning, they could be married as long as it was part of their belief system correct?
    I would regard people as being married if the country they were in legally recognised them as so. So you are married. Two atheists who have a secular wedding are married. A gay couple who have a civil partnership are married.

    All should be seen as such and upheld by law.

    But a Christian wedding is between a man and a woman and the church should absolutely not be forced or compelled to change their beliefs to cater for those outside of it.

    It is as ridiculous to me as Christian members demanding a secular wedding with a blessing from God in it and trying to force secular humanists to offer religious weddings.

    So I don't believe gay couples should be allowed to marry in a Christian church and have a Christian marriage as it is clearly invalid and violates the Christian concept of marriage.


    Great post Bilbo, Its a very balanced view and very fair.

    But as you know, I believe the Christian church was stolen from the Desposyni, so to the originators under Yeshuas original teachings, very little of his way home to God through love and freedom of truth, is left within it.

    If it was, they would reserve their judgment.
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    Utter,utter,utter bollocks.
    You are simply intolerant of Christianity now you have left it mate. Cognitive dissonance theory in action. That is all.

    I am all for gay couples having exactly the same legal status and protections enshrined in law, the same as straight couples. A civil contract? Sure.

    A Christian marriage? How can that be enforced, the Bible says it is wrong and unlawful.

    The gay lobby is so intolerant. They have all the legal rights they need to live full and accepted lives. But they continue to push further.

    In a true and free society everyone has the right to their beliefs. That includes those who don't agree with you.

    If somebody wants to believe homosexuality is a sin, then that is their right.

    It's actually such a warped view of equal rights that we have. If Christians behaved the same way they would be taking secular organisations to court and winning cases against David Attenborogh for offending them by describing evolution on his tv programs, they would be suing people for claiming God did not exist etc.

    People have different opinions. It's part of life.
    So are you offended by people that cheat on their spouses, or in fact simply lust over other people's spouses?
    I'm not sure what point you are making? I don't have an opinion either way about what people get up to, including gay people, and religious people. I am against the forcing of other people's opinions onto society however.

    If people want to have same sex relationships, or extra marital affairs, or fuck their siblings, their pets etc. Then fine, do what you want.

    But when they try to make it so everybody else has to embrace their lifestyle and taking to court those who disapprove so that they suddenly become criminalised then I am entirely against that.

    Yes, a couple have the right to be gay and live together. But equally other people have the right to believe that such a lifestyle is wrong.

    Back to the original topic. I believe in civil partnerships with the couple having the same legal rights and tax breaks a straight couple would have. I am totally opposed to allowing same sex marriage in a Christian sense as it is explicitly clear that such a thing is in violation of what marriage is and nobody has the right to change another's faith and religion.
    I can't speak for how it is in the UK, but civil unions in the US do not hold the same rights as marriage, for me that is where the problem lies. I do not have a Christian marriage, but I am legally married, does this violate what marriage is to you?
    Then I am in agreement with you. I dont believe any group should suffer discrimination and gay couples wanting to commit to each other in lifelong partnership should absolutely have the same legal rights as straight couples.

    They shouldn't have the right to be able to marry in a Christian church ceremony however as it clearly violates the biblical concept of what marriage is. Regarding other religions, it should be up to whatever that religion believes to be marriage that is upheld.

    Again with your own marriage as I see it you are legally marrried and are married according to whatever religion or none that you married under.
    So by that reasoning, they could be married as long as it was part of their belief system correct?
    I would regard people as being married if the country they were in legally recognised them as so. So you are married. Two atheists who have a secular wedding are married. A gay couple who have a civil partnership are married.

    All should be seen as such and upheld by law.

    But a Christian wedding is between a man and a woman and the church should absolutely not be forced or compelled to change their beliefs to cater for those outside of it.

    It is as ridiculous to me as Christian members demanding a secular wedding with a blessing from God in it and trying to force secular humanists to offer religious weddings.

    So I don't believe gay couples should be allowed to marry in a Christian church and have a Christian marriage as it is clearly invalid and violates the Christian concept of marriage.


    Great post Bilbo, Its a very balanced view and very fair.

    But as you know, I believe the Christian church was stolen from the Desposyni, so to the originators under Yeshuas original teachings, very little of his way home to God through love and freedom of truth, is left within it.

    If it was, they would reserve their judgment.
    What about Bilbo's response Sorry but I can't be bothered to read this. Twice? is that a balanced and fair response? what about his unfounded assertions of Intolerance?
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    Utter,utter,utter bollocks.
    You are simply intolerant of Christianity now you have left it mate. Cognitive dissonance theory in action. That is all.

    I am all for gay couples having exactly the same legal status and protections enshrined in law, the same as straight couples. A civil contract? Sure.

    A Christian marriage? How can that be enforced, the Bible says it is wrong and unlawful.

    The gay lobby is so intolerant. They have all the legal rights they need to live full and accepted lives. But they continue to push further.

    In a true and free society everyone has the right to their beliefs. That includes those who don't agree with you.

    If somebody wants to believe homosexuality is a sin, then that is their right.

    It's actually such a warped view of equal rights that we have. If Christians behaved the same way they would be taking secular organisations to court and winning cases against David Attenborogh for offending them by describing evolution on his tv programs, they would be suing people for claiming God did not exist etc.

    People have different opinions. It's part of life.
    So are you offended by people that cheat on their spouses, or in fact simply lust over other people's spouses?
    I'm not sure what point you are making? I don't have an opinion either way about what people get up to, including gay people, and religious people. I am against the forcing of other people's opinions onto society however.

    If people want to have same sex relationships, or extra marital affairs, or fuck their siblings, their pets etc. Then fine, do what you want.

    But when they try to make it so everybody else has to embrace their lifestyle and taking to court those who disapprove so that they suddenly become criminalised then I am entirely against that.

    Yes, a couple have the right to be gay and live together. But equally other people have the right to believe that such a lifestyle is wrong.

    Back to the original topic. I believe in civil partnerships with the couple having the same legal rights and tax breaks a straight couple would have. I am totally opposed to allowing same sex marriage in a Christian sense as it is explicitly clear that such a thing is in violation of what marriage is and nobody has the right to change another's faith and religion.
    I can't speak for how it is in the UK, but civil unions in the US do not hold the same rights as marriage, for me that is where the problem lies. I do not have a Christian marriage, but I am legally married, does this violate what marriage is to you?
    Then I am in agreement with you. I dont believe any group should suffer discrimination and gay couples wanting to commit to each other in lifelong partnership should absolutely have the same legal rights as straight couples.

    They shouldn't have the right to be able to marry in a Christian church ceremony however as it clearly violates the biblical concept of what marriage is. Regarding other religions, it should be up to whatever that religion believes to be marriage that is upheld.

    Again with your own marriage as I see it you are legally marrried and are married according to whatever religion or none that you married under.
    So by that reasoning, they could be married as long as it was part of their belief system correct?
    I would regard people as being married if the country they were in legally recognised them as so. So you are married. Two atheists who have a secular wedding are married. A gay couple who have a civil partnership are married.

    All should be seen as such and upheld by law.

    But a Christian wedding is between a man and a woman and the church should absolutely not be forced or compelled to change their beliefs to cater for those outside of it.

    It is as ridiculous to me as Christian members demanding a secular wedding with a blessing from God in it and trying to force secular humanists to offer religious weddings.

    So I don't believe gay couples should be allowed to marry in a Christian church and have a Christian marriage as it is clearly invalid and violates the Christian concept of marriage.


    Great post Bilbo, Its a very balanced view and very fair.

    But as you know, I believe the Christian church was stolen from the Desposyni, so to the originators under Yeshuas original teachings, very little of his way home to God through love and freedom of truth, is left within it.

    If it was, they would reserve their judgment.
    What about Bilbo's response Sorry but I can't be bothered to read this. Twice? is that a balanced and fair response? what about his unfounded assertions of Intolerance?

    I read Andre's post in full.

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    Utter,utter,utter bollocks.
    You are simply intolerant of Christianity now you have left it mate. Cognitive dissonance theory in action. That is all.

    I am all for gay couples having exactly the same legal status and protections enshrined in law, the same as straight couples. A civil contract? Sure.

    A Christian marriage? How can that be enforced, the Bible says it is wrong and unlawful.

    The gay lobby is so intolerant. They have all the legal rights they need to live full and accepted lives. But they continue to push further.

    In a true and free society everyone has the right to their beliefs. That includes those who don't agree with you.

    If somebody wants to believe homosexuality is a sin, then that is their right.

    It's actually such a warped view of equal rights that we have. If Christians behaved the same way they would be taking secular organisations to court and winning cases against David Attenborogh for offending them by describing evolution on his tv programs, they would be suing people for claiming God did not exist etc.

    People have different opinions. It's part of life.
    So are you offended by people that cheat on their spouses, or in fact simply lust over other people's spouses?
    I'm not sure what point you are making? I don't have an opinion either way about what people get up to, including gay people, and religious people. I am against the forcing of other people's opinions onto society however.

    If people want to have same sex relationships, or extra marital affairs, or fuck their siblings, their pets etc. Then fine, do what you want.

    But when they try to make it so everybody else has to embrace their lifestyle and taking to court those who disapprove so that they suddenly become criminalised then I am entirely against that.

    Yes, a couple have the right to be gay and live together. But equally other people have the right to believe that such a lifestyle is wrong.

    Back to the original topic. I believe in civil partnerships with the couple having the same legal rights and tax breaks a straight couple would have. I am totally opposed to allowing same sex marriage in a Christian sense as it is explicitly clear that such a thing is in violation of what marriage is and nobody has the right to change another's faith and religion.
    I can't speak for how it is in the UK, but civil unions in the US do not hold the same rights as marriage, for me that is where the problem lies. I do not have a Christian marriage, but I am legally married, does this violate what marriage is to you?
    Then I am in agreement with you. I dont believe any group should suffer discrimination and gay couples wanting to commit to each other in lifelong partnership should absolutely have the same legal rights as straight couples.

    They shouldn't have the right to be able to marry in a Christian church ceremony however as it clearly violates the biblical concept of what marriage is. Regarding other religions, it should be up to whatever that religion believes to be marriage that is upheld.

    Again with your own marriage as I see it you are legally marrried and are married according to whatever religion or none that you married under.
    So by that reasoning, they could be married as long as it was part of their belief system correct?

    I would regard people as being married if the country they were in legally recognised them as so. So you are married. Two atheists who have a secular wedding are married. A gay couple who have a civil partnership are married.

    All should be seen as such and upheld by law.


    But a Christian wedding is between a man and a woman and the church should absolutely not be forced or compelled to change their beliefs to cater for those outside of it.


    It is as ridiculous to me as Christian members demanding a secular wedding with a blessing from God in it and trying to force secular humanists to offer religious weddings.


    So I don't believe gay couples should be allowed to marry in a Christian church and have a Christian marriage as it is clearly invalid and violates the Christian concept of marriage.


    Great post Bilbo, Its a very balanced view and very fair.

    But as you know, I believe the Christian church was stolen from the Desposyni, so to the originators under Yeshuas original teachings, very little of his way home to God through love and freedom of truth, is left within it.

    If it was, they would reserve their judgment.
    What about Bilbo's response Sorry but I can't be bothered to read this. Twice? is that a balanced and fair response? what about his unfounded assertions of Intolerance?
    Ha I was looking only at his final analogy there.
    Im a prick too, I dont read everything either, get myself into trouble sometimes.

    Usually I read the first post in a thread ,comment on my general feeling, then go to read all the other replies afterward so Im not tainted.

    Then I think "whoops Im not going to be very popular am I"
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    Nothing to do with religion? Then what is it ultimately, what are they offending of you?
    The whole gay mentality, the fact that they're trying to make their psychotic, self serving, lifestyle mainstream and acceptable. "Marriage" is a union between a man and a woman, which usually produces children, (a family) fags and lesbians can call their "unions" what ever they want, but don't confuse it with a real marriage.
    Same arguments used for the 3/5's law. It is what it is, you weren't looking for a discussion here, just looking to vent. I understand.
    Vent, hear what others had to say, and express my opinion, but you're correct, it's not something I care to debate.
    I grew up in an era where homosexuals were considered mentally ill, social deviants, they wern't allowed to serve in the military, and the idea that they could get "married" someday was thought to be a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Nothing to do with religion? Then what is it ultimately, what are they offending of you?
    The whole gay mentality, the fact that they're trying to make their psychotic, self serving, lifestyle mainstream and acceptable. "Marriage" is a union between a man and a woman, which usually produces children, (a family) fags and lesbians can call their "unions" what ever they want, but don't confuse it with a real marriage.
    Same arguments used for the 3/5's law. It is what it is, you weren't looking for a discussion here, just looking to vent. I understand.
    Vent, hear what others had to say, and express my opinion, but you're correct, it's not something I care to debate.
    I grew up in an era where homosexuals were considered mentally ill, social deviants, they wern't allowed to serve in the military, and the idea that they could get "married" someday was thought to be a joke.
    Unless you are involved in a forced marriage to a man then it shouldn't bother you. I would hate to be married to a man as buggery isn't something I find terribly appealing, but if like minded others want to freely join in a same sex marriage, then it really shouldn't matter to anyone else.

    Mind your own business and let others who are causing no harm to anyone else to indulge in what they like. It isn't a big deal and typically it is religious people with their small minded doctrines who get upset by it all.

    Yay for abortion, yay for same sex marriage, yay for contraception. Honestly, the church and it's views are archaic and beyond belief and it is no wonder young Britain's simply don't bother going to church anymore. It has little relevance.

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    Sounds like some one went out drinking last week end and ended up in the "wrong" bar and got a proposition.

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    Nothing to do with religion? Then what is it ultimately, what are they offending of you?
    The whole gay mentality, the fact that they're trying to make their psychotic, self serving, lifestyle mainstream and acceptable. "Marriage" is a union between a man and a woman, which usually produces children, (a family) fags and lesbians can call their "unions" what ever they want, but don't confuse it with a real marriage.
    Same arguments used for the 3/5's law. It is what it is, you weren't looking for a discussion here, just looking to vent. I understand.
    Vent, hear what others had to say, and express my opinion, but you're correct, it's not something I care to debate.
    I grew up in an era where homosexuals were considered mentally ill, social deviants, they wern't allowed to serve in the military, and the idea that they could get "married" someday was thought to be a joke.
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    This is stupid. It's very very simple.

    1. Fuck religion. It has nothing to do with marriage.

    2. There is no sanctity to marriage anymore.

    3. There is absolutely no reason that Gays and Lesbians should be denied the right to marry. None.

    4. It doesn't fucking matter if the purpose of marriage is to have a man and a woman together because they can create a baby. Unless baby making is included permanently into the rules of marriage, it doesn't even begin to matter.

    Fucking christ. I wish I could be retarded enough to think that gays shouldn't marry.

    P.S. I didn't bother to read anything, and I just feel like ranting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Nothing to do with religion? Then what is it ultimately, what are they offending of you?
    The whole gay mentality, the fact that they're trying to make their psychotic, self serving, lifestyle mainstream and acceptable. "Marriage" is a union between a man and a woman, which usually produces children, (a family) fags and lesbians can call their "unions" what ever they want, but don't confuse it with a real marriage.
    Same arguments used for the 3/5's law. It is what it is, you weren't looking for a discussion here, just looking to vent. I understand.
    Vent, hear what others had to say, and express my opinion, but you're correct, it's not something I care to debate.
    I grew up in an era where homosexuals were considered mentally ill, social deviants, they wern't allowed to serve in the military, and the idea that they could get "married" someday was thought to be a joke.
    Unless you are involved in a forced marriage to a man then it shouldn't bother you. I would hate to be married to a man as buggery isn't something I find terribly appealing, but if like minded others want to freely join in a same sex marriage, then it really shouldn't matter to anyone else.

    Mind your own business and let others who are causing no harm to anyone else to indulge in what they like. It isn't a big deal and typically it is religious people with their small minded doctrines who get upset by it all.

    Yay for abortion, yay for same sex marriage, yay for contraception. Honestly, the church and it's views are archaic and beyond belief and it is no wonder young Britain's simply don't bother going to church anymore. It has little relevance.
    So you've tried it eh?
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    I don't know what it's like in Canada, the UK/Europe/Australia, and the rest of the World but this has been a really big issue here in the U.S..

    Call me homophobic or whatever, but to my way of thinking gays and lesbians are mentally fucked up, disgusting pieces of shit and marriage is between a man and a woman.

    I'm not trying to debate this, i'd just like to hear some opinions.
    That is a terrible thing to say, like plants some people are actually born in between like a hermaphrodite.

    I once thought like you do and it was from listening to my parents and peers which I now realize was a weakness on my part in wanting to blend with the general consensus. So there is hope for you .

    To say Gays cannot experience and share love, because of something so trivial as sexual orientation is actually a contradiction in itself and proves that real love, not lust love, can and does exist only outside of all judgments.

    Some gays are also celebrate.

    There are many people who also see the gay scene as a fashion accessory to a lifestyle and sexually view an ass an ass in regards to their habits etc and find that deplorable, but to single out someones real love for another is worse in my eyes.
    If you have or had kids are you teaching them that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle?
    Acceptable might not be the right word.

    I would just teach him to understand that if a man is Gay then that that is God's way of terminating his gene pool.

    You know, natural selection and all...

    Hence I am not perturbed by Gay marriage as much as I am Gay parents. That's just taking the piss!
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