Who can beat Floyd?

[ruthless rocco]

If I felt that I had been ripped off by my promoter for 10 years, and if I feel that that promoter is human garbage who takes advantage of all his fighters, and is complete a complete piece of shit who can be accused of being one of the biggest problems with the sport of boxing, and he still owes me millions of dollars that are still unpaid after 10 years, and if I'm making enough money on my own, then I wouldn't want to give him a penny ever again.

Why is that so hard to understand?

From your response, it appears that that is the only excuse why Floyd doesn't want the fight ... that he hates Bob Arum that much.

Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny the first time around years ago? Do you mean he didn't hate Bob that much then? Or is it that he did not really intend to fight Manny even then hence the numerous demands?

It'd make more sense to me if I was Floyd to take the fight and beat Manny to take Arums cash cow away and stop him from making money no? Instead he let Pac cash in on more paydays and making Arun more money ? Just a thought..

You Pactard's mental deficiencies never cease to amaze me! How dumb are you?

[Julius Rain]

People call Floyd a scumbag, when Pacquiao's no choir boy either.

He cheated on his wife, he's a fan of cockfighting, he has a gambling problem, he takes PEDs, and he fights people at catchweights.

And hes homophobic

Many people are homophobic, he is not from a country where being Gay is cool "America"


Also every thing y'all named we can replace cockfighting with woman beating and that would be a description of your Jesus boxer Floyd.

Actually the only reason Pac said he did not support same-sex marriage like Obama is because the bible instruct him not to. He explain this and has no issues with people being gay. Also in the Philippines many comedians are gay and are accepted. There is no gay issues in the Philippines but same-sex marriage will be a long shot because of the strong arm of the catholic church.

Good point on Floyd though. Women beater is the worst kind of men.

[imp]

People call Floyd a scumbag, when Pacquiao's no choir boy either.

He cheated on his wife, he's a fan of cockfighting, he has a gambling problem, he takes PEDs, and he fights people at catchweights.

And hes homophobic

Many people are homophobic, he is not from a country where being Gay is cool "America"


Also every thing y'all named we can replace cockfighting with woman beating and that would be a description of your Jesus boxer Floyd.

Actually the only reason Pac said he did not support same-sex marriage like Obama is because the bible instruct him not to. He explain this and has no issues with people being gay. Also in the Philippines many comedians are gay and are accepted. There is no gay issues in the Philippines but same-sex marriage will be a long shot because of the strong arm of the catholic church.

Good point on Floyd though. Women beater is the worst kind of men.

Theres nothing to say about a wife beater but my appreciation of floyds skills start and end in the ring.

[brocktonblockbust]

Ruthless Rocco after he stacks a bunch of ped.

Andre after he gets that Grim Reaper tattoo on his neck.

[Silkeyjoe]

Amir Khan could beat him. Thurman would give him problems. GGG could be too strong for him. Lara could cause him problems. Outside those 4 its hard to see much else giving him problems.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

If I felt that I had been ripped off by my promoter for 10 years, and if I feel that that promoter is human garbage who takes advantage of all his fighters, and is complete a complete piece of shit who can be accused of being one of the biggest problems with the sport of boxing, and he still owes me millions of dollars that are still unpaid after 10 years, and if I'm making enough money on my own, then I wouldn't want to give him a penny ever again.

Why is that so hard to understand?

From your response, it appears that that is the only excuse why Floyd doesn't want the fight ... that he hates Bob Arum that much.

Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny the first time around years ago? Do you mean he didn't hate Bob that much then? Or is it that he did not really intend to fight Manny even then hence the numerous demands?

It'd make more sense to me if I was Floyd to take the fight and beat Manny to take Arums cash cow away and stop him from making money no? Instead he let Pac cash in on more paydays and making Arun more money ? Just a thought..

You Pactard's mental deficiencies never cease to amaze me! How dumb are you?

We discredited your excuse as to why Floyd does not want to fight Manny and you resort to name calling. I didn't even say that Manny is going to win the fight. I believe that Floyd has the advantage in this fight. I just want them to fight.

Try again. Come up with another excuse as to why Floyd doesn't want to fight.

[Julius Rain]

Amir Khan could beat him. Thurman would give him problems. GGG could be too strong for him. Lara could cause him problems. Outside those 4 its hard to see much else giving him problems.

I agree with GGG and Lara but Khan and Thurman? No chance.

[ruthless rocco]

If I felt that I had been ripped off by my promoter for 10 years, and if I feel that that promoter is human garbage who takes advantage of all his fighters, and is complete a complete piece of shit who can be accused of being one of the biggest problems with the sport of boxing, and he still owes me millions of dollars that are still unpaid after 10 years, and if I'm making enough money on my own, then I wouldn't want to give him a penny ever again.

Why is that so hard to understand?

From your response, it appears that that is the only excuse why Floyd doesn't want the fight ... that he hates Bob Arum that much.

Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny the first time around years ago? Do you mean he didn't hate Bob that much then? Or is it that he did not really intend to fight Manny even then hence the numerous demands?

It'd make more sense to me if I was Floyd to take the fight and beat Manny to take Arums cash cow away and stop him from making money no? Instead he let Pac cash in on more paydays and making Arun more money ? Just a thought..

You Pactard's mental deficiencies never cease to amaze me! How dumb are you?

We discredited your excuse as to why Floyd does not want to fight Manny and you resort to name calling. I didn't even say that Manny is going to win the fight. I believe that Floyd has the advantage in this fight. I just want them to fight.

Try again. Come up with another excuse as to why Floyd doesn't want to fight.

You discredited my argument? How?

Obviously beating Pac won't "take Pac away from Arum", like you claim. Pacquiaos lost before, a handful of times and he's still with him. He got KTFO by JMM. He looked like he was dead. The guy sitting nearest ring side reached out because he thought Manny's head was gonna roll off his shoulders and land in his lap! (Maybe you missed that fight moron?)

How stupid you must be to think that ANOTHER loss is going to make a difference. You Pactards just type some made up shit and think it's the truth just like Manny believes all Bob's lies. You've found the perfect idol in Pacquiao.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

You discredited my argument? How?

Obviously beating Pac won't "take Pac away from Arum", like you claim. Pacquiaos lost before, a handful of times and he's still with him. He got KTFO by JMM. He looked like he was dead. The guy sitting nearest ring side reached out because he thought Manny's head was gonna roll off his shoulders and land in his lap! (Maybe you missed that fight moron?)

How stupid you must be to think that ANOTHER loss is going to make a difference. You Pactards just type some made up shit and think it's the truth just like Manny believes all Bob's lies. You've found the perfect idol in Pacquiao.

You still have not answered the question. You were implying that Floyd does not want to fight Manny because he hates Bob Arum. Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny before when Manny was already under Arum? So that excuse is discredited. So why doesn't Floyd want to fight Manny now when he is still at a huge advantage?

Resorting to name calling and trying to discredit the poster does not compensate for your lack of a valid response. Try again.

[Beanflicker]

I'm not a fan of Floyd the man, because he's shown himself to be a thug, a bully, a woman beater, ect.

When you look at virtuosos in any field, they are usually insufferable pricks behind the scenes. A lot of times the fire that makes certain people become masters at their art, also makes them not so great people personally. So I think you have to separate the man from the art.

Especially in boxing. There's a documentary on Sugar Ray Robinson out there that goes into how he was behind the scenes, and he was a nightmare. His own children were interviewed and talked about how Ray would beat the hell out of his wife, beat his kids, cheat on his wife, not spend time with his kids, ect. Went into how big of a prima donna he was, how he had a paid entourage following him everywhere (including a midget jester to make him laugh when he was feeling down). The guy was probably even worse than Floyd.

[Master]

I'm not a fan of Floyd the man, because he's shown himself to be a thug, a bully, a woman beater, ect.

When you look at virtuosos in any field, they are usually insufferable pricks behind the scenes. A lot of times the fire that makes certain people become masters at their art, also makes them not so great people personally. So I think you have to separate the man from the art.

Especially in boxing. There's a documentary on Sugar Ray Robinson out there that goes into how he was behind the scenes, and he was a nightmare. His own children were interviewed and talked about how Ray would beat the hell out of his wife, beat his kids, cheat on his wife, not spend time with his kids, ect. Went into how big of a prima donna he was, how he had a paid entourage following him everywhere (including a midget jester to make him laugh when he was feeling down). The guy was probably even worse than Floyd.

Lets not get carried away here.

[ruthless rocco]

You discredited my argument? How?

Obviously beating Pac won't "take Pac away from Arum", like you claim. Pacquiaos lost before, a handful of times and he's still with him. He got KTFO by JMM. He looked like he was dead. The guy sitting nearest ring side reached out because he thought Manny's head was gonna roll off his shoulders and land in his lap! (Maybe you missed that fight moron?)

How stupid you must be to think that ANOTHER loss is going to make a difference. You Pactards just type some made up shit and think it's the truth just like Manny believes all Bob's lies. You've found the perfect idol in Pacquiao.

You still have not answered the question. You were implying that Floyd does not want to fight Manny because he hates Bob Arum. Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny before when Manny was already under Arum? So that excuse is discredited. So why doesn't Floyd want to fight Manny now when he is still at a huge advantage?

Resorting to name calling and trying to discredit the poster does not compensate for your lack of a valid response. Try again.

I don't think that discredits my answer.

I'm going on what Floyd has stated in the past. He won't fight unless his conditions are met. His conditions were drug testing and no Bob Arum.

I've heard that being said for years. I don't know what else to tell you little Pactard.

[imp]

I'm not a fan of Floyd the man, because he's shown himself to be a thug, a bully, a woman beater, ect.

When you look at virtuosos in any field, they are usually insufferable pricks behind the scenes. A lot of times the fire that makes certain people become masters at their art, also makes them not so great people personally. So I think you have to separate the man from the art.

Especially in boxing. There's a documentary on Sugar Ray Robinson out there that goes into how he was behind the scenes, and he was a nightmare. His own children were interviewed and talked about how Ray would beat the hell out of his wife, beat his kids, cheat on his wife, not spend time with his kids, ect. Went into how big of a prima donna he was, how he had a paid entourage following him everywhere (including a midget jester to make him laugh when he was feeling down). The guy was probably even worse than Floyd.

Lets not get carried away here.

Its true.

Sugar ray robinson was a c@nt..outside the ring.

Theres no excuse to lay your hand on a women and it makes me sick that men like this have to do this..they should follow ali"s behaviour outside the ring or even our current heavyweight champion from ukraine who seems like a great guy outside the ring.

[imp]

You discredited my argument? How?

Obviously beating Pac won't "take Pac away from Arum", like you claim. Pacquiaos lost before, a handful of times and he's still with him. He got KTFO by JMM. He looked like he was dead. The guy sitting nearest ring side reached out because he thought Manny's head was gonna roll off his shoulders and land in his lap! (Maybe you missed that fight moron?)

How stupid you must be to think that ANOTHER loss is going to make a difference. You Pactards just type some made up shit and think it's the truth just like Manny believes all Bob's lies. You've found the perfect idol in Pacquiao.

You still have not answered the question. You were implying that Floyd does not want to fight Manny because he hates Bob Arum. Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny before when Manny was already under Arum? So that excuse is discredited. So why doesn't Floyd want to fight Manny now when he is still at a huge advantage?

Resorting to name calling and trying to discredit the poster does not compensate for your lack of a valid response. Try again.

I don't think that discredits my answer.

I'm going on what Floyd has stated in the past. He won't fight unless his conditions are met. His conditions were drug testing and no Bob Arum.

I've heard that being said for years. I don't know what else to tell you little Pactard.

Bottom line is that your both frustrated and both have valid reasons for this fight not taking place.

If only we were a fly in the meeting to see exactly what was discussed but I have to side with floyd only because he did offer pac 40 million and wanted him to leave bob arum and make more money for both of the fighters..pac not only has bob arum and freddie roach telling him what to do but a rich manager called michael cuntz (kontz)

[Andre]

You discredited my argument? How?

Obviously beating Pac won't "take Pac away from Arum", like you claim. Pacquiaos lost before, a handful of times and he's still with him. He got KTFO by JMM. He looked like he was dead. The guy sitting nearest ring side reached out because he thought Manny's head was gonna roll off his shoulders and land in his lap! (Maybe you missed that fight moron?)

How stupid you must be to think that ANOTHER loss is going to make a difference. You Pactards just type some made up shit and think it's the truth just like Manny believes all Bob's lies. You've found the perfect idol in Pacquiao.

You still have not answered the question. You were implying that Floyd does not want to fight Manny because he hates Bob Arum. Didn't Floyd agree to fight Manny before when Manny was already under Arum? So that excuse is discredited. So why doesn't Floyd want to fight Manny now when he is still at a huge advantage?

Resorting to name calling and trying to discredit the poster does not compensate for your lack of a valid response. Try again.

I don't think that discredits my answer.

I'm going on what Floyd has stated in the past. He won't fight unless his conditions are met. His conditions were drug testing and no Bob Arum.

I've heard that being said for years. I don't know what else to tell you little Pactard.

Bottom line is that your both frustrated and both have valid reasons for this fight not taking place.

If only we were a fly in the meeting to see exactly what was discussed but I have to side with floyd only because he did offer pac 40 million and wanted him to leave bob arum and make more money for both of the fighters..pac not only has bob arum and freddie roach telling him what to do but a rich manager called michael cuntz (kontz)

Might not come off .
A loss to either fighter would mean the end of alot of attention and adulation which adds to asses on future seats, a huge fan base loss. Many so called fight fans would are not actually real fight fans would run from either one of these big names. Its still a big a fight to them both. They've both got books to write and a load of collectors and fan boy hands to shake yet.