Who will be remembered as the greater fighter: Bernard Hopkins or Floyd Mayweather?

[Beanflicker]

The Bradley fight was a great win for Pac, there's no doubt about it.

I can see him picking Rios for a comeback fight, he had just been KTFO and wanted to get in and get his confidence back against a patsy, I get that.

But for him to go from fighting Bradley to fighting Algeira at welterweight is inexcusable.

[powerpuncher]

Manny has been knocked out brutally by JMM so has had easy fights to get him back. His opposition is poor since his defeat and there is no getting away from that. However he is the second best welterweight in the world so the fight with Floyd can still be made. Even if he has little chance of winning. It is still makeable.

How in the world can an undefeated, p4p #3 ranked Bradley be considered "poor opposition"? That is just crazy to suggest. Insane. Bradley is a much better win than ANYONE Floyd has beaten in YEARS. The bias and blinders that people have for Floyd is just insane.

In his defense, when Pac fought Bradley the second time, he was not the #3 p4p guy in the world.

Yes he was, he had beaten Pac n JMM n Prod. He was ranked behind Floyd n Ward.

according to who? You?

[mikeeod]

Manny has been knocked out brutally by JMM so has had easy fights to get him back. His opposition is poor since his defeat and there is no getting away from that. However he is the second best welterweight in the world so the fight with Floyd can still be made. Even if he has little chance of winning. It is still makeable.

How in the world can an undefeated, p4p #3 ranked Bradley be considered "poor opposition"? That is just crazy to suggest. Insane. Bradley is a much better win than ANYONE Floyd has beaten in YEARS. The bias and blinders that people have for Floyd is just insane.

In his defense, when Pac fought Bradley the second time, he was not the #3 p4p guy in the world.

Yes he was, he had beaten Pac n JMM n Prod. He was ranked behind Floyd n Ward.

according to who? You?

Yes, and Ring magazine.

[ruthless rocco]

Ring Magazine... Owned by Golden Boy. An honest, credible publication if there ever was one.

Ring Magazine Scandal - BoxRec

Let's not forget Ring Magazine put Broner at #6 P4P last year. Broner is promoted by Golden Boy.

Ring Magazine has Andre ward as #2 P4P despite not having fought in 1 year and only twice in the last 2.8 years

[powerpuncher]

Manny has been knocked out brutally by JMM so has had easy fights to get him back. His opposition is poor since his defeat and there is no getting away from that. However he is the second best welterweight in the world so the fight with Floyd can still be made. Even if he has little chance of winning. It is still makeable.

How in the world can an undefeated, p4p #3 ranked Bradley be considered "poor opposition"? That is just crazy to suggest. Insane. Bradley is a much better win than ANYONE Floyd has beaten in YEARS. The bias and blinders that people have for Floyd is just insane.

In his defense, when Pac fought Bradley the second time, he was not the #3 p4p guy in the world.

Yes he was, he had beaten Pac n JMM n Prod. He was ranked behind Floyd n Ward.

according to who? You?

Yes, and Ring magazine.

I don't remember that being true. I'd have to have proof. Either way though, he in no way deserved that ranking.

[mikeeod]

Manny has been knocked out brutally by JMM so has had easy fights to get him back. His opposition is poor since his defeat and there is no getting away from that. However he is the second best welterweight in the world so the fight with Floyd can still be made. Even if he has little chance of winning. It is still makeable.

How in the world can an undefeated, p4p #3 ranked Bradley be considered "poor opposition"? That is just crazy to suggest. Insane. Bradley is a much better win than ANYONE Floyd has beaten in YEARS. The bias and blinders that people have for Floyd is just insane.

In his defense, when Pac fought Bradley the second time, he was not the #3 p4p guy in the world.

Yes he was, he had beaten Pac n JMM n Prod. He was ranked behind Floyd n Ward.

according to who? You?

Yes, and Ring magazine.

I don't remember that being true. I'd have to have proof. Either way though, he in no way deserved that ranking.

Really? That is interesting. His wins over Pac (tainted, but still a win in the books) and JMM, both of whom were rated p4p, not to mention his war with Prov, wasn't enough for you? Definitely interesting take. If you want proof, look it up. The main point to all of this, was that regardless of who owns Ring magazine or where you think Bradley should be ranked, he was definitely worthy of a top 10 P4P ranking, was undefeated and coming off a win over the guy who beat Manny. That is a great win for Manny, and definitely affords him a little latitude in not having to immediately fight another guy of that caliber. Algieri is still a decent opponent, the bigger man in the ring, and a live underdog and titlist. Not a PPV fight, but in no way a sham or horrible match up/disgrace.

[Mr140]

Eh i'll go with Mayweather but Hop has to be up there i mean he lost to Jones and Clazaghe but i think those guys are better then most if not all the guys Mayweather has fought. Ranking fighters from different weight classes is a bitch to do.I rank hw on a list of there own from other division because pound for pound thing not really is not valid for them. Call me crazy but i have Holyfeild ranked Higher then those guys at times because he mad the pound for pound thing a realty guy starts off at 175 and because the Hw champ fighting guys that were fucking huge compared to him all depends on what you like and not really right answer when you get to certain names and ranking them really. I mean when we rate guys like Ali, Duran, Hearns and Leonard how do you rank them it is hard to rank Ali with them so i just put him in hw great makes it easier to do.

[mikeeod]

Eh i'll go with Mayweather but Hop has to be up there i mean he lost to Jones and Clazaghe but i think those guys are better then most if not all the guys Mayweather has fought. Ranking fighters from different weight classes is a bitch to do.I rank hw on a list of there own from other division because pound for pound thing not really is not valid for them. Call me crazy but i have Holyfeild ranked Higher then those guys at times because he mad the pound for pound thing a realty guy starts off at 175 and because the Hw champ fighting guys that were fucking huge compared to him all depends on what you like and not really right answer when you get to certain names and ranking them really. I mean when we rate guys like Ali, Duran, Hearns and Leonard how do you rank them it is hard to rank Ali with them so i just put him in hw great makes it easier to do.

I'm a HUGE Holy fan and I think he is very underrated. He is hands down the greatest Cruiser ever, and he is one of the greatest heavyweights ever, despite significant size disadvantages and competing in the second best heavyweight class ever. Good post.