Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

[Primo Carnera]

" but you are still scraping the barrel to try and desperately find something to criticise Fury over"
Ha ha. Trust me Ross , I don't have to scrape the barrel to try to criticise Fury, there are many many things to criticise.

Let's start with:
1. For a guy his size, he has no power.
2. He's a show pony. Flatters to deceive.
3. He's never beaten a HW of any quality.
4. He chose to swerve a British title fight with David Price and opted to fight a 40 year old part time taxi driver for the "Irish title" instead. that was despite going on national TV and telling everyone "it would take 10 plumbers to sort Price's face out when he's finished with him."
5. And in the same interview on national TV , he said he would sort out his "gay lover" Tony Bellew on the same night . (Actually , that's not a criticism, I thought it was fuckin hilarious!)
6. I've already said he is unprofessional.
7. He's disrespectful of the top 2 P4P boxers on the planet by saying he would knock them both out on the same night! He's a fuckin foot taller and 10 stone heavier than both of them, he should knock them out FFS. But in the real world, he wouldn't lay a glove on either of them.
8. He took 10 rounds to get rid of a shop worn Chisora who wasn't capable of throwing a meaningful punch .
This is from someone who actually LIKES Tyson Fury. That is 1 fucking big barrel. And there's probably much more if I concentrated.

And he's still better than anyone Wlad has faced.

Well that's an opinion ! Not an opinion I share. I think loads of guys Wlad beat would beat Fury.

Ok...

Wlad has said himself what everyone else thinks that his brother would kick his ass.

Other than Lewis who gave Vitali his hardest fight? Oh yeah Chisora! The same Chisora Fury played with twice!

Chisora was brave against Vitali to be fair, but he lost every fucking round! If that was Vitali's toughest fight, he should've carried on till he's 70!
And by your reckoning, because Chisora gave Vitali a "good go" and Tyson played with him, Tyson beats Wlad?
Ok, let's use that theory , Haye beat Chisora better than Vitali AND Fury, so does that not mean Haye fuckin splatters Fury? Just using your logic here.

Haye certainly didnt think so

Maybe you should have had a word in his ear and to,d him not to worry he'll be fine

What do you mean here? Oh Yeah, "in your opinion", Haye Ducked Fury. Despite the fact that he had an operation and has never fought since and not earned a penny since, it was all a bit of a fake injury ...... IN YOUR OPINION.
Funny, you don't reply to the FACT that Fury ducked Price? I'd love to hear what your thoughts are on that.
For that matter, didn't Fury duck Pulev in order to fight Haye? Again, thoughts please.
So that's a British title shot and a World title eliminator that Fury has swerved. These are FACTS NOT OPINIONS.
Pulev has since deservedly got his shot. Now, you can summise that Fury is better than Pulev and will give Wlad a better fight, but there comes a time when talk becomes worthless and you have to "walk the walk."
I re-iterate, Fury has never beaten anyone that makes anyone bar you logically think he can beat a guy who hasn't even looked like getting beat recently.

Like I said, its going to be hilarious when Tyson Fury brings your (in your mind) boxing world crumbling down.

Stop writing essays. I an write a couple of sentences and they get a far bigger response than any boring essay any of you can write.

The funniest thing is I'm the only one who's had any official capacity in boxing here. Doesn't given me Devine rights but still funny when I read some of the crap dribbled on here.

Ok , if it offends you, I'll keep it brief.
Your Comments about Fury ducking Price and Pulev please.
Ps.your"bigger response" is because nobody can believe the shite you are talking.

[AdamGB]

Ross, you're like that kid at the end of High School who bragged about how shit his GCSEs were as if it made him some sort of rebel... No, it was just because he was an idiot.

I'd personally be concerned if a single sentence from me resulted in several paragraphs explaining exactly how stupid what I just said was.

Your posts are like a blocked U-Bend, a tonne of shite compressed into a tiny little space... All I'm doing is decompressing the shit.

[ross]

" but you are still scraping the barrel to try and desperately find something to criticise Fury over"
Ha ha. Trust me Ross , I don't have to scrape the barrel to try to criticise Fury, there are many many things to criticise.

Let's start with:
1. For a guy his size, he has no power.
2. He's a show pony. Flatters to deceive.
3. He's never beaten a HW of any quality.
4. He chose to swerve a British title fight with David Price and opted to fight a 40 year old part time taxi driver for the "Irish title" instead. that was despite going on national TV and telling everyone "it would take 10 plumbers to sort Price's face out when he's finished with him."
5. And in the same interview on national TV , he said he would sort out his "gay lover" Tony Bellew on the same night . (Actually , that's not a criticism, I thought it was fuckin hilarious!)
6. I've already said he is unprofessional.
7. He's disrespectful of the top 2 P4P boxers on the planet by saying he would knock them both out on the same night! He's a fuckin foot taller and 10 stone heavier than both of them, he should knock them out FFS. But in the real world, he wouldn't lay a glove on either of them.
8. He took 10 rounds to get rid of a shop worn Chisora who wasn't capable of throwing a meaningful punch .
This is from someone who actually LIKES Tyson Fury. That is 1 fucking big barrel. And there's probably much more if I concentrated.

And he's still better than anyone Wlad has faced.

Well that's an opinion ! Not an opinion I share. I think loads of guys Wlad beat would beat Fury.

Ok...

Wlad has said himself what everyone else thinks that his brother would kick his ass.

Other than Lewis who gave Vitali his hardest fight? Oh yeah Chisora! The same Chisora Fury played with twice!

Chisora was brave against Vitali to be fair, but he lost every fucking round! If that was Vitali's toughest fight, he should've carried on till he's 70!
And by your reckoning, because Chisora gave Vitali a "good go" and Tyson played with him, Tyson beats Wlad?
Ok, let's use that theory , Haye beat Chisora better than Vitali AND Fury, so does that not mean Haye fuckin splatters Fury? Just using your logic here.

Haye certainly didnt think so

Maybe you should have had a word in his ear and to,d him not to worry he'll be fine

What do you mean here? Oh Yeah, "in your opinion", Haye Ducked Fury. Despite the fact that he had an operation and has never fought since and not earned a penny since, it was all a bit of a fake injury ...... IN YOUR OPINION.
Funny, you don't reply to the FACT that Fury ducked Price? I'd love to hear what your thoughts are on that.
For that matter, didn't Fury duck Pulev in order to fight Haye? Again, thoughts please.
So that's a British title shot and a World title eliminator that Fury has swerved. These are FACTS NOT OPINIONS.
Pulev has since deservedly got his shot. Now, you can summise that Fury is better than Pulev and will give Wlad a better fight, but there comes a time when talk becomes worthless and you have to "walk the walk."
I re-iterate, Fury has never beaten anyone that makes anyone bar you logically think he can beat a guy who hasn't even looked like getting beat recently.

Like I said, its going to be hilarious when Tyson Fury brings your (in your mind) boxing world crumbling down.

Stop writing essays. I an write a couple of sentences and they get a far bigger response than any boring essay any of you can write.

The funniest thing is I'm the only one who's had any official capacity in boxing here. Doesn't given me Devine rights but still funny when I read some of the crap dribbled on here.

Ok , if it offends you, I'll keep it brief.
Your Comments about Fury ducking Price and Pulev please.
Ps.your"bigger response" is because nobody can believe the shite you are talking.

Iv posted that before probably half a dozen times. They couldnt fight according to Kellie Maloney as Price was tied to Sky Sports whereas Fury was with channel 5. peter Fury then found out Kellie was lying because there was no contract tying Price to Channel 5. Search fury, Price, gollum and you'll hopefully find Peter Furys article on it. Kellie, Price or no one has ever refuted what Peter has said because its the truth.

Ross, you're like that kid at the end of High School who bragged about how shit his GCSEs were as if it made him some sort of rebel... No, it was just because he was an idiot.

I'd personally be concerned if a single sentence from me resulted in several paragraphs explaining exactly how stupid what I just said was.

Your posts are like a blocked U-Bend, a tonne of shite compressed into a tiny little space... All I'm doing is decompressing the shit.

You have no answer. Keep looking at your punch bag

[AdamGB]

I see still photography is a complicated concept for you to follow, do you think there's a small person trapped inside telephones? They've discovered fire where you're from though, right?

That's not my punchbag Ross, it's my gym's... you're my punchbag and yet again, you've proven to be full of nothing bit hot air.

[Primo Carnera]

"Ok , if it offends you, I'll keep it brief.
Your Comments about Fury ducking Price and Pulev please.
Ps.your"bigger response" is because nobody can believe the shite you are talking.[/QUOTE]

"Iv posted that before probably half a dozen times. They couldnt fight according to Kellie Maloney as Price was tied to Sky Sports whereas Fury was with channel 5. peter Fury then found out Kellie was lying because there was no contract tying Price to Channel 5. Search fury, Price, gollum and you'll hopefully find Peter Furys article on it. Kellie, Price or no one has ever refuted what Peter has said because its the truth."

Tyson Fury: I turned down David Price fight because I was offered "chicken feed" - Liverpool Echo
Perhaps you should read this Ross. This was straight from the Horse's mouth. Not a word about Maloney or TV Deals blah blah blah. He says he wasn't offered enough money and he was moving on towards a World title.
Yeah , so he fought Rogan for the Irish HW Title.
Now , your comments on the Pulev duck please.

[ross]

I see still photography is a complicated concept for you to follow, do you think there's a small person trapped inside telephones? They've discovered fire where you're from though, right?

That's not my punchbag Ross, it's my gym's... you're my punchbag and yet again, you've proven to be full of nothing bit hot air.

Ok, keep looking at someone else's punch bag.

[ross]

Is signing to fight Wlads most dangerous opponent ducking anyone?

These guys

[Primo Carnera]

Is signing to fight Wlads most dangerous opponent ducking anyone?

These guys

When you haven't got a valid answer, you give a half answer or no answer.
One minute Fury dodges a British title fight to go for the World title, the next minute, he turns down an eliminator for a World Title to fight a non title fight. What's it to be ?
Anyway, reply if you want ,but I won't read it till the morning cos I'm going to bed. Can't be fucked with trying to squeeze some logic out of you for tonight.

[palmerq]

The funniest thing is I'm the only one who's had any official capacity in boxing here. Doesn't given me Devine rights but still funny when I read some of the crap dribbled on here.

what is it you do or used to do ? not trolling or trying to argue anything here, just interested

[ross]

The funniest thing is I'm the only one who's had any official capacity in boxing here. Doesn't given me Devine rights but still funny when I read some of the crap dribbled on here.

what is it you do or used to do ? not trolling or trying to argue anything here, just interested

I actually boxed 18 bouts and then became an official judge for a couple of years.

[Dark Lord Al]

Lets be honest here , fury uses his size well , he has improved his jab and throws punches in combinations well.
But he hasn't been fighting big hitters , guys 6'5 + , or guys with fast hands.
He has been well matched , let him fight Wlad a wise experienced champion who has all of the above - speed - power - and he is a big guy also.
For me Wlad wins the first big shot he lands.

[ross]

Lets be honest here , fury uses his size well , he has improved his jab and throws punches in combinations well.
But he hasn't been fighting big hitters , guys 6'5 + , or guys with fast hands.
He has been well matched , let him fight Wlad a wise experienced champion who has all of the above - speed - power - and he is a big guy also.
For me Wlad wins the first big shot he lands.

Its now a very intriguing match up isn't it?

As much as you want to see how Fury handles Wlad and his strengths I'm sure you are also interested to see how Wlad copes with Fury's size, movement, combinations etc. He's going to be the first opponent Wlad has had he wont be able to manhandle and lean on and who has the stamina to work all night.

Ill be watching that chin of his as will Fury and Peter Fury as well. Iv never said he was Oliver McCall but with all Furys attributes Wlad will struggle and being forced to work and chase someone who can move Wlad will look old.

[AdamGB]

The funniest thing is I'm the only one who's had any official capacity in boxing here. Doesn't given me Devine rights but still funny when I read some of the crap dribbled on here.

what is it you do or used to do ? not trolling or trying to argue anything here, just interested

I actually boxed 18 bouts and then became an official judge for a couple of years.

Over a dozen fights and an OFFICIAL judge?

I'm not sure if you're trying to give yourself more credibility or just discredit ABA judging qualifications?

On a serious note why just a couple of years? Did you not enjoy it, was it other commitments?

[ross]

The funniest thing is I'm the only one who's had any official capacity in boxing here. Doesn't given me Devine rights but still funny when I read some of the crap dribbled on here.

what is it you do or used to do ? not trolling or trying to argue anything here, just interested

I actually boxed 18 bouts and then became an official judge for a couple of years.

Over a dozen fights and an OFFICIAL judge?

I'm not sure if you're trying to give yourself more credibility or just discredit ABA judging qualifications?

On a serious note why just a couple of years? Did you not enjoy it, was it other commitments?

I run a labour agency and my head is always buzzing with small things like workers not turning up, searching for new workers, trying to keep the work stream going etc. Come the end of the week I'm fatigued and I like to do fuck all and relax. The dinner boxing shows that I was judging on were on a Friday night which meant pissing around getting a tuxedo ready then sitting ringside with a liker in each hand counting the landed punches of each boxer not being able to have a drink and nigh on falling asleep while sat on your own. It was boring but I did it.

One night one of our boxers lost and he is popular on facebook. He went on facebook the next morning and basically called all the judges cunts. I saw it and explained what he didn't want to hear and took abuse from a couple of the other lads to boot.

Also, one of the coaches went on and did the same. Just looking for likes. Putting suh cheesy rubbish as "my blood sweat and tears, my boxers". He wasn't even the head coach! The actual head coach (my old coach, who asked me to become a judge with an eye on becoming a ref) agreed with all the decisions which also included his own grand daughter being out worked. There are three judges and all the decisions were unanimous.

I basically thought, fuck you I'm not wasting my time to just be the cunt everyone talks about on facebook the next day. Iv got more important things to do with my time than waste it on people who don't like the truth.

The pathetic thing is I offered my time to go up the club and talk them all through what a judge is looking for. The coach who went on faebook was due to come to my house that day to look at a job I wanted doing. He sheepishly text me to see if I still wanted him up. I did and when he came I collared him about it and asked him to explain to me what a scoring shot is and he said it has to be a punch that snaps the head back. I explained its a shot that blah blah blah, lands on the target area with the scoring part of the glove (knuckle) with effort (Not just a flicking jab). Like I said, my idea was to have everyone taught this up the club on a weekend then het the boxers sat round the ring with the clickers and score a few rounds of sparring. This way they know what they are supposed to be doing. They weren't interested and even now they are still criticising the judges.

The judges don't go criticising the coaches who cant coach people to win. No one wants to hear the truth but if they accepted it they could improve, instead its everyone else's fault and the boxers are the ones who end up suffering.

[AdamGB]

I thought that could be something to do with it, I've had fights where I felt I was on the wrong end of the decision, we were always taught to be humble, not to go over the top when one of us won and not to complain if we felt robbed, basically just not to run our mouths... Save that for the drive home, good or bad.

But the audience, sometimes even complete strangers, weren't quite as polite... I've been on shows were the audiences blood is up more than the fighters!

Sometimes coaches aren't much better. Saw a lad lose a close fight down to L.S.D. and his coach spent 20 minutes swearing his head off afterwards i the changing room with loads of junior boxers... Mind, this is the same coach who took a razor blade to one of his junior's eyes to get rid of a lump so he didn't get stopped. Had 10 year olds hammering diuretics ffs.