The rematch, Carl Froch - Mikkel Kessler 2 fight chat thread - Warriors Call !!!

[FinitoElDinamita]

Memphis, you will soon find out by your boxing knowledge is inferior to mine.
Im calling it right now. Only way Froch wins is by hometown cooking or premature stoppage by the ref..

Under fair circumstances, Kessler will win..

[Memphis]

Memphis, you will soon find out by your boxing knowledge is inferior to mine.
Im calling it right now. Only way Froch wins is by hometown cooking or premature stoppage by the ref..

Under fair circumstances, Kessler will win..

So all Kessler has got to do is finish the fight and its a home town decision right?

[Master]

Listen to radio 5 live and Carl is blaming the on off, ash cloud for his bad performance and defeat.

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Listen to radio 5 live and Carl is blaming the on off, ash cloud for his bad performance and defeat.

To be fair, I didnt like Froch back then and I was revelling in that cloud because it did fuck him around in the final week.

It didnt affect his training leading up to the fight and what he would have done in the final week wouldnt have really changed either. In fact he got to stay hom rather than be dragged around doing media stuff.

He says he had a burger but the man is a freak who only ever has a couple of pounds to lose out of training! It my have switched his mind and focus off for a couple of days but no way his fitness was affected.

Dont forget, Kessler was coming off a loss and Carl was unbeaten at this point. I think Carl loves that ash cloud because deep down the biggest thing that will annoy Froch about this particular loss is that Calzaghe beat Kessler comfortable when Kessler was a unified undefeated world champ. Carl lost to a none title holder coming off a loss, similar to Bute losing to Carl.

[Tam Seddon]

http://www.boxingscene.com/froch-on-kessler-ill-kill-this-fer-if-i---65821

Frochy is getting hyped for this!

[Spicoli]

I'm going with Froch. I picked Kess the first time but Froch is riding a different level right now 3 years later. Kess isn't facing a gimp Green here and should not play to power, nice ko but seriously overstated..he'll need to box and I think Froch will suck him into a give and take on Frochs terms.

[Tam Seddon]

http://www.boxingscene.com/kessler-ill-fresher-fighter-beat-froch-again--65826

Kessler feels he will be the fresher fighter of the two.

[Tam Seddon]

Did anybody see the gloves are off with Eubank, Collins, Calzaghe, Woodhall, jones and Nelson?? I enjoyed that, loved how intense Collins was in it, Eubank knows how to push his buttons! I think everyone is backing Froch in this fight out of that lot!

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Did anybody see the gloves are off with Eubank, Collins, Calzaghe, Woodhall, jones and Nelson?? I enjoyed that, loved how intense Collins was in it, Eubank knows how to push his buttons! I think everyone is backing Froch in this fight out of that lot!

listen to the only man that fought Kessler... "Don't write Kessler off, he can still punch!"

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To be honest, I cannot see why Kessler is being written off here.

The only real advantage Carl has is fighting in his home country.

Mikkel has anhialated 3 good opponents since his fight with Carl, showing maybe even an improvement in power.

Carl has had a rougher schedule but that could be to his detriment. He is older and could come in tired like Benn did against Malinga. He may have burnt himself out in the gym.

[Tam Seddon]

To be honest, I cannot see why Kessler is being written off here.

The only real advantage Carl has is fighting in his home country.

Mikkel has anhialated 3 good opponents since his fight with Carl, showing maybe even an improvement in power.

Carl has had a rougher schedule but that could be to his detriment. He is older and could come in tired like Benn did against Malinga. He may have burnt himself out in the gym.

Froch is known for his outstanding stamina your just trying to put him down in every single way possible because you don't like him. When has froch ever in his career ever burnt out? He's always got stronger as the fight progresses so I don't know what your talking about here.

[ross]

To be honest, I cannot see why Kessler is being written off here.

The only real advantage Carl has is fighting in his home country.

Mikkel has anhialated 3 good opponents since his fight with Carl, showing maybe even an improvement in power.

Carl has had a rougher schedule but that could be to his detriment. He is older and could come in tired like Benn did against Malinga. He may have burnt himself out in the gym.

Froch is known for his outstanding stamina your just trying to put him down in every single way possible because you don't like him. When has froch ever in his career ever burnt out? He's always got stronger as the fight progresses so I don't know what your talking about here.

He could not keep up with Kessler. Ill give him that he is consistent through a bout but when someone turns it up like Kessler did he gets outworked. There were quote a few rounds Kessler wan simply because he was throwing and landing more, which after all is what boxing is about...

[Tam Seddon]

To be honest, I cannot see why Kessler is being written off here.

The only real advantage Carl has is fighting in his home country.

Mikkel has anhialated 3 good opponents since his fight with Carl, showing maybe even an improvement in power.

Carl has had a rougher schedule but that could be to his detriment. He is older and could come in tired like Benn did against Malinga. He may have burnt himself out in the gym.

Froch is known for his outstanding stamina your just trying to put him down in every single way possible because you don't like him. When has froch ever in his career ever burnt out? He's always got stronger as the fight progresses so I don't know what your talking about here.

He could not keep up with Kessler. Ill give him that he is consistent through a bout but when someone turns it up like Kessler did he gets outworked. There were quote a few rounds Kessler wan simply because he was throwing and landing more, which after all is what boxing is about...

Yes I agree with you there were rounds where Kessler was out landing Froch and winning rounds and that's why he won the fight. Froch however did come on strong at the end and threw more punches after he lost his momentum a bit before that, especially in the last round, if it had been a 15 round fight I reckon Kessler would have been knocked out.

Froch will have learnt from his mistakes though and he needs he needs to put his foot on the gas In the whole fight. He's a better fighter now than he was when he last fought Kessler and that will be the difference in the fight.

[Rantcatrat]

To be honest, I cannot see why Kessler is being written off here.

The only real advantage Carl has is fighting in his home country.

Mikkel has anhialated 3 good opponents since his fight with Carl, showing maybe even an improvement in power.

Carl has had a rougher schedule but that could be to his detriment. He is older and could come in tired like Benn did against Malinga. He may have burnt himself out in the gym.

Green put Kessler down before he knocked Green down. Are you sure Kessler, at 33, isn't worn out a bit.

Everyone is picking Froch for a reason I think.

In my opinion, this is one of those rare legacy-defining fights for both guys. If Kessler leaves England with his second win over Froch, it's huge for his legacy. It means the only people to have beat him are Calzaghe and Ward. No shame in that considering that both guys are considered the top of the super middleweight division historically. If Froch drills Kessler, he avenges one of his two losses, and he can lay claim to beating every top super middleweight out there other than Ward during his prime era. Again, quite the accomplishment. Say what you want about the Dirrell fight, but at the end of the day, Ward doesn't have a win, disputed or not, over Dirrell, and Froch does. Froch needs this win badly.

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To be honest, I cannot see why Kessler is being written off here.

The only real advantage Carl has is fighting in his home country.

Mikkel has anhialated 3 good opponents since his fight with Carl, showing maybe even an improvement in power.

Carl has had a rougher schedule but that could be to his detriment. He is older and could come in tired like Benn did against Malinga. He may have burnt himself out in the gym.

Green put Kessler down before he knocked Green down. Are you sure Kessler, at 33, isn't worn out a bit.

Everyone is picking Froch for a reason I think.

In my opinion, this is one of those rare legacy-defining fights for both guys. If Kessler leaves England with his second win over Froch, it's huge for his legacy. It means the only people to have beat him are Calzaghe and Ward. No shame in that considering that both guys are considered the top of the super middleweight division historically. If Froch drills Kessler, he avenges one of his two losses, and he can lay claim to beating every top super middleweight out there other than Ward during his prime era. Again, quite the accomplishment. Say what you want about the Dirrell fight, but at the end of the day, Ward doesn't have a win, disputed or not, over Dirrell, and Froch does. Froch needs this win badly.

Green is a noted big puncher and this was at his favoured weight. There is an interview with him after his involvement with the super six and leading up to the Kessler fight, just after the weigh in where he blames being weight drained for his poor performances etc. He even points and out that Kessler basically came in as a super middle still, just a pound over.

Kessler did get hurt but it was by a big punching light heavy. Froch got dropped and hurt by someone who couldnt make a dent in a pair of welter weights!

Calzaghe got hurt a few times and dropped but hes still regarded as one of if not THE best super middle ever. Ward got dropped etc etc...

Froch had improved since their last fight? He had his worst showing and Ward one of his easiest fights since he lost to Kessler. Froch steamrolled a pair of fighters not known for durability. Kessler had one of his best performances ever in his last fight and comparably better then Froch and Bute over the same fighter.