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[ElTerribleMorales]

like i give a shit about Fleischer . Y didn't u mention Bert Sugar ? that genious with d hat and d cigar ? i adore those idiots .

Greb couldn't crack n egg and was a dirty fighter . Y do u give credit 4 a supposed sportsman 4 violating d rules of d sport in which u rank him ? I guess u don't even know what i'm referring 2 here , do u ?

He was also stopped twice and was beaten by Tiger Flowers whom was KOd in 1 by old and blind Sam Langford . Since u do think that d fights during that era were 4 real then u should recognize what i posted now .

Eddie Booker KOd Archie Wright , Charley Burley couldn't . If u want 2 rank Burley ahead of Booker then i don't have much of a problem with it , but does listing Booker mean that d whole BMR should b in ? as if he was d worst of them or something like ? all i imply is that Burley and Booker should b ranked close , even if u choose 2 rank Burley higher .
If u don't understand it then u'r ignorant idiot , but that was already proven .

There is some romanticized plasticized fairy tailized element in d Chavez legacy/legend . i agree on this 2 a little Xtent , meaning that i don't fully reject that claim of yours . But what plastic fairy tale about him destroying Meldrick Taylor twice ? beating Camacho ? gamely fighting LaPorte in his own game more or less ? stopping Roger Mayweather twice ? stopping Mario Martinez just after Martinez stopped a 27 years old Rolando Navarette . I could go on but all of these and more were all plastic fairy tales .
Ray Leonard's , Joe Louis's , Muhammad Ali's , Larry Holmes' , Jack Dempsey's , Gene Tunney's and Rocco Marchegiano's careers all were mucho mas plastic fairy tales than Chavez' .
Even Roberto Duran's and Thomas Hearns' .
I Xpect u not 2 reply 2 this because i know that u'r shitting crap and have no answers 2 my questions and statements here . U'll ignore them just like d rest b4 u did .

no, no one's responding to this cause you're just talking out your ass, and have no clue what you're talking about, especially after the fact that you just tried to discredit Hearns, Leonard's, Louis, Ali's, Holmes, and most of all Duran's career

Roberto Duran's not only the greatest Lightweight in the history of the sport, he's recognized as the GREATEST LATIN FIGHTER PERIOD, even JCC Superstar himself acknowledged him as the greatest and as one of his idols , you're flat out a moron buddy

no brah , u r d moron . sporting a Puerto Rico flag along d ElTerribleMorales name , very authentic .
Expressing casual fan's impressions and following d lies and d myths like cattle .
Not knowing d facts and ignoring them and then replying 2 my post without reading it almost .
as 4 Duran :
His win over Leonard is legit , until i watch/rewatch it and might change my mind (don't remember if i watched it but i certainly didn't watch it in d last 4 years)
Barkley was quite weight drained @ 160lbs .
DeJesus , Sims , Benitez & Kirkland Laing outpointed him . He was kept away from Antonio Cervantes , whom might have posed 2 much of a risk 4 him .
He was decapitated by Hearns .
I do Xcuse his loss in d Leonard rematch .
Palomino was on d end of d way against him .
Cuevas was shot , but their fight was supposed 2b a welterweight fight , however Duran couldn't make d weight , and Cuevas generously agreed 4 him 2 come overweight . D rest is on youtube .
Davey Moore came injured in2 their fight , had a dental surgery . Not only that , but Duran also thumbed him . I do not even complain about Moore's being green like some others do .
Ken Buchanan , Duran hit him low , after d bell and then won .
Despite what's on boxrec , no1 knows d way Duran vs Ernesto Marcel ended . Whether Duran even stopped him or not , and if so then how . A mystery 2 this day .
This story is just a bit 2 much Cassius Clayish in its nature 2 indicate of d supposed immense greatness .
Yes , Duran really was very good , but ppl don't know some if not all of d facts that i listed above , there r probably more such facts about his career , and even then , ppl ignore them , like u do most of d time .

I'm Puerto Rican but my favorite fight is Morales, so fucking what? I'm not blinded by nationality unlike some posters, as for not reading your retarded posts well it's simple, I get tired of reading nonsense, so I stopped reading your bullshit, lol don't know what logic you can have to try and make a bitch like Ramirez seem like he has a sterling career and then go on and try to diminish the records of true greats, the fact that you try and slam Duran's record says it all

[frankenfrank]

like i give a shit about Fleischer . Y didn't u mention Bert Sugar ? that genious with d hat and d cigar ? i adore those idiots .

Greb couldn't crack n egg and was a dirty fighter . Y do u give credit 4 a supposed sportsman 4 violating d rules of d sport in which u rank him ? I guess u don't even know what i'm referring 2 here , do u ?

He was also stopped twice and was beaten by Tiger Flowers whom was KOd in 1 by old and blind Sam Langford . Since u do think that d fights during that era were 4 real then u should recognize what i posted now .

Eddie Booker KOd Archie Wright , Charley Burley couldn't . If u want 2 rank Burley ahead of Booker then i don't have much of a problem with it , but does listing Booker mean that d whole BMR should b in ? as if he was d worst of them or something like ? all i imply is that Burley and Booker should b ranked close , even if u choose 2 rank Burley higher .
If u don't understand it then u'r ignorant idiot , but that was already proven .

There is some romanticized plasticized fairy tailized element in d Chavez legacy/legend . i agree on this 2 a little Xtent , meaning that i don't fully reject that claim of yours . But what plastic fairy tale about him destroying Meldrick Taylor twice ? beating Camacho ? gamely fighting LaPorte in his own game more or less ? stopping Roger Mayweather twice ? stopping Mario Martinez just after Martinez stopped a 27 years old Rolando Navarette . I could go on but all of these and more were all plastic fairy tales .
Ray Leonard's , Joe Louis's , Muhammad Ali's , Larry Holmes' , Jack Dempsey's , Gene Tunney's and Rocco Marchegiano's careers all were mucho mas plastic fairy tales than Chavez' .
Even Roberto Duran's and Thomas Hearns' .
I Xpect u not 2 reply 2 this because i know that u'r shitting crap and have no answers 2 my questions and statements here . U'll ignore them just like d rest b4 u did .

no, no one's responding to this cause you're just talking out your ass, and have no clue what you're talking about, especially after the fact that you just tried to discredit Hearns, Leonard's, Louis, Ali's, Holmes, and most of all Duran's career

Roberto Duran's not only the greatest Lightweight in the history of the sport, he's recognized as the GREATEST LATIN FIGHTER PERIOD, even JCC Superstar himself acknowledged him as the greatest and as one of his idols , you're flat out a moron buddy

no brah , u r d moron . sporting a Puerto Rico flag along d ElTerribleMorales name , very authentic .
Expressing casual fan's impressions and following d lies and d myths like cattle .
Not knowing d facts and ignoring them and then replying 2 my post without reading it almost .
as 4 Duran :
His win over Leonard is legit , until i watch/rewatch it and might change my mind (don't remember if i watched it but i certainly didn't watch it in d last 4 years)
Barkley was quite weight drained @ 160lbs .
DeJesus , Sims , Benitez & Kirkland Laing outpointed him . He was kept away from Antonio Cervantes , whom might have posed 2 much of a risk 4 him .
He was decapitated by Hearns .
I do Xcuse his loss in d Leonard rematch .
Palomino was on d end of d way against him .
Cuevas was shot , but their fight was supposed 2b a welterweight fight , however Duran couldn't make d weight , and Cuevas generously agreed 4 him 2 come overweight . D rest is on youtube .
Davey Moore came injured in2 their fight , had a dental surgery . Not only that , but Duran also thumbed him . I do not even complain about Moore's being green like some others do .
Ken Buchanan , Duran hit him low , after d bell and then won .
Despite what's on boxrec , no1 knows d way Duran vs Ernesto Marcel ended . Whether Duran even stopped him or not , and if so then how . A mystery 2 this day .
This story is just a bit 2 much Cassius Clayish in its nature 2 indicate of d supposed immense greatness .
Yes , Duran really was very good , but ppl don't know some if not all of d facts that i listed above , there r probably more such facts about his career , and even then , ppl ignore them , like u do most of d time .

I'm Puerto Rican but my favorite fight is Morales, so fucking what? I'm not blinded by nationality unlike some posters, as for not reading your retarded posts well it's simple, I get tired of reading nonsense, so I stopped reading your bullshit, lol don't know what logic you can have to try and make a bitch like Ramirez seem like he has a sterling career and then go on and try to diminish the records of true greats, the fact that you try and slam Duran's record says it all

i guess this Xplains Y I shouldn't reply 2 this shit anymore .

[ElTerribleMorales]

like i give a shit about Fleischer . Y didn't u mention Bert Sugar ? that genious with d hat and d cigar ? i adore those idiots .

Greb couldn't crack n egg and was a dirty fighter . Y do u give credit 4 a supposed sportsman 4 violating d rules of d sport in which u rank him ? I guess u don't even know what i'm referring 2 here , do u ?

He was also stopped twice and was beaten by Tiger Flowers whom was KOd in 1 by old and blind Sam Langford . Since u do think that d fights during that era were 4 real then u should recognize what i posted now .

Eddie Booker KOd Archie Wright , Charley Burley couldn't . If u want 2 rank Burley ahead of Booker then i don't have much of a problem with it , but does listing Booker mean that d whole BMR should b in ? as if he was d worst of them or something like ? all i imply is that Burley and Booker should b ranked close , even if u choose 2 rank Burley higher .
If u don't understand it then u'r ignorant idiot , but that was already proven .

There is some romanticized plasticized fairy tailized element in d Chavez legacy/legend . i agree on this 2 a little Xtent , meaning that i don't fully reject that claim of yours . But what plastic fairy tale about him destroying Meldrick Taylor twice ? beating Camacho ? gamely fighting LaPorte in his own game more or less ? stopping Roger Mayweather twice ? stopping Mario Martinez just after Martinez stopped a 27 years old Rolando Navarette . I could go on but all of these and more were all plastic fairy tales .
Ray Leonard's , Joe Louis's , Muhammad Ali's , Larry Holmes' , Jack Dempsey's , Gene Tunney's and Rocco Marchegiano's careers all were mucho mas plastic fairy tales than Chavez' .
Even Roberto Duran's and Thomas Hearns' .
I Xpect u not 2 reply 2 this because i know that u'r shitting crap and have no answers 2 my questions and statements here . U'll ignore them just like d rest b4 u did .

no, no one's responding to this cause you're just talking out your ass, and have no clue what you're talking about, especially after the fact that you just tried to discredit Hearns, Leonard's, Louis, Ali's, Holmes, and most of all Duran's career

Roberto Duran's not only the greatest Lightweight in the history of the sport, he's recognized as the GREATEST LATIN FIGHTER PERIOD, even JCC Superstar himself acknowledged him as the greatest and as one of his idols , you're flat out a moron buddy

no brah , u r d moron . sporting a Puerto Rico flag along d ElTerribleMorales name , very authentic .
Expressing casual fan's impressions and following d lies and d myths like cattle .
Not knowing d facts and ignoring them and then replying 2 my post without reading it almost .
as 4 Duran :
His win over Leonard is legit , until i watch/rewatch it and might change my mind (don't remember if i watched it but i certainly didn't watch it in d last 4 years)
Barkley was quite weight drained @ 160lbs .
DeJesus , Sims , Benitez & Kirkland Laing outpointed him . He was kept away from Antonio Cervantes , whom might have posed 2 much of a risk 4 him .
He was decapitated by Hearns .
I do Xcuse his loss in d Leonard rematch .
Palomino was on d end of d way against him .
Cuevas was shot , but their fight was supposed 2b a welterweight fight , however Duran couldn't make d weight , and Cuevas generously agreed 4 him 2 come overweight . D rest is on youtube .
Davey Moore came injured in2 their fight , had a dental surgery . Not only that , but Duran also thumbed him . I do not even complain about Moore's being green like some others do .
Ken Buchanan , Duran hit him low , after d bell and then won .
Despite what's on boxrec , no1 knows d way Duran vs Ernesto Marcel ended . Whether Duran even stopped him or not , and if so then how . A mystery 2 this day .
This story is just a bit 2 much Cassius Clayish in its nature 2 indicate of d supposed immense greatness .
Yes , Duran really was very good , but ppl don't know some if not all of d facts that i listed above , there r probably more such facts about his career , and even then , ppl ignore them , like u do most of d time .

I'm Puerto Rican but my favorite fight is Morales, so fucking what? I'm not blinded by nationality unlike some posters, as for not reading your retarded posts well it's simple, I get tired of reading nonsense, so I stopped reading your bullshit, lol don't know what logic you can have to try and make a bitch like Ramirez seem like he has a sterling career and then go on and try to diminish the records of true greats, the fact that you try and slam Duran's record says it all

i guess this Xplains Y I shouldn't reply 2 this shit anymore .

it's no coincidence that everyone is singling you out as a dumbass

[TitoFan]

El Terrible.... why are you still arguing with this nut case? Everyone else has blown him off. As long as you give him attention, he'll keep spouting his ignorant posts on boxing. I was trying to reason with the kid, until he rated Robbie Sims above Tommy Hearns. At that point, I wrote him off as an ignorant kid, trying to get some attention with his outrageous rankings. He doesn't know shit about boxing... and everyone that has bothered to post on here has said precisely the same thing. He's not worth your trouble.

[Spicoli]

So my man, you rag on fighters and ranked challengers you have never seen actually fight in regards to a hof'r and a guy you dismiss but then use a Jesse fuckin Fergusson and Akinwande to legitimize a "great fighter" in Oliver McCall. Point of a McCall, Barkley and Gonzalez is all guys of that nature have a few surprises, but also let downs. Don't you see the total foley in what you speak? You can watch boxers box to see great talent or a worthy fighter but it doesn't jump off of pages or chat rooms by itself. I can say pretty safely I've spent more years watching fighters begin, peak and end than the years you have collectively spent Googling and "browsin boxrec" to judge fighters you really cannot.

Since u'r questioning my hundreds of fights multiple viewing Xperience , praising bums and dissing very good and sometimes great fighters i have 2 ask u if u watched Jesse Fergusson in his winning efforts or just d losing 1s ? same with Akinwande . admittedly i haven't managed 2 get all of their interesting winning efforts so that's Y i haven't watched them all , but since u diss them , have u watched Ferguson outpoint Douglas and then Mercer (*2 probably) ? r u even aware of these accomplishments when u diss them d way u do while at d same spirit praising bums ? Ferguson and Akinwande at least proved themselves by winning fights against good opponents and lasting d distance against others . Did Alex Sanchez ever managed such a feat besides losing a decision 2 Ivan Calderon ? which is his (Sanchez') greatest achievement by far BTW .
And since u've seen d great "El Nene" at work , as opposed 2 I , can u educate me a bit on his achievements ? since i couldn't figure any .

This is like watching a stray kitten walk along a busy highway ffs. Dude...their is no dissing on them, nice swerve and attempt to spin but you can save that. Your just trying to make guys into things they were not. "Lasting the distance" is something a guy not expected to win is told as a token. It certainly doesn't translate into being a testament to quality or greatness. It means you are a tough nut and maybe have a hard head but true skill is like pornography...you know it when you see it. Ferguson was a tough nut. Douglas had more ups and downs than a Nevada brothel in career, mentally and physically he was erratic and a younger Boogie Man managed a majority call. BFD. Ferguson fell into the epitome of a journeyman. Brought in as an opponent and over the next decade or so his "notable" win was over a bloated unmotivated version of Mercer who was more content to try to bribe him, literally, and the loss was later avenged. Hey, good on Ferguson. He earned that win. For personal gratification I'll toss in his "upset" over a badly over hyped Sampson Po'uha which was piss in your pants funny to watch. He smacked around a 44 yr old Holmes but lost, but so did Navarre and Oliver McCall in Holmes very next fight.

As far as I'm concerned whatever stock (.....) that was put into Akinwande went out the window when he did his impression of a terrified panic stricken wet blanket vs. Lennox Lewis in what has be one of the poorest excuses for a challenge in recent history. After that "fight" if you want to hang you hat on wins over Timo Hoffman, a Mo Harris or a bad version of Orlin Norris who was recently off of terrible dec wins and a ko loss, at cruiser weight, have at it. Its just perspective chief. You don't keep any. Not sure why I'm responding really ha. Its useless.

[frankenfrank]

So my man, you rag on fighters and ranked challengers you have never seen actually fight in regards to a hof'r and a guy you dismiss but then use a Jesse fuckin Fergusson and Akinwande to legitimize a "great fighter" in Oliver McCall. Point of a McCall, Barkley and Gonzalez is all guys of that nature have a few surprises, but also let downs. Don't you see the total foley in what you speak? You can watch boxers box to see great talent or a worthy fighter but it doesn't jump off of pages or chat rooms by itself. I can say pretty safely I've spent more years watching fighters begin, peak and end than the years you have collectively spent Googling and "browsin boxrec" to judge fighters you really cannot.

Since u'r questioning my hundreds of fights multiple viewing Xperience , praising bums and dissing very good and sometimes great fighters i have 2 ask u if u watched Jesse Fergusson in his winning efforts or just d losing 1s ? same with Akinwande . admittedly i haven't managed 2 get all of their interesting winning efforts so that's Y i haven't watched them all , but since u diss them , have u watched Ferguson outpoint Douglas and then Mercer (*2 probably) ? r u even aware of these accomplishments when u diss them d way u do while at d same spirit praising bums ? Ferguson and Akinwande at least proved themselves by winning fights against good opponents and lasting d distance against others . Did Alex Sanchez ever managed such a feat besides losing a decision 2 Ivan Calderon ? which is his (Sanchez') greatest achievement by far BTW .
And since u've seen d great "El Nene" at work , as opposed 2 I , can u educate me a bit on his achievements ? since i couldn't figure any .

This is like watching a stray kitten walk along a busy highway ffs. Dude...their is no dissing on them, nice swerve and attempt to spin but you can save that. Your just trying to make guys into things they were not. "Lasting the distance" is something a guy not expected to win is told as a token. It certainly doesn't translate into being a testament to quality or greatness. It means you are a tough nut and maybe have a hard head but true skill is like pornography...you know it when you see it. Ferguson was a tough nut. Douglas had more ups and downs than a Nevada brothel in career, mentally and physically he was erratic and a younger Boogie Man managed a majority call. BFD. Ferguson fell into the epitome of a journeyman. Brought in as an opponent and over the next decade or so his "notable" win was over a bloated unmotivated version of Mercer who was more content to try to bribe him, literally, and the loss was later avenged. Hey, good on Ferguson. He earned that win. For personal gratification I'll toss in his "upset" over a badly over hyped Sampson Po'uha which was piss in your pants funny to watch. He smacked around a 44 yr old Holmes but lost, but so did Navarre and Oliver McCall in Holmes very next fight.

As far as I'm concerned whatever stock (.....) that was put into Akinwande went out the window when he did his impression of a terrified panic stricken wet blanket vs. Lennox Lewis in what has be one of the poorest excuses for a challenge in recent history. After that "fight" if you want to hang you hat on wins over Timo Hoffman, a Mo Harris or a bad version of Orlin Norris who was recently off of terrible dec wins and a ko loss, at cruiser weight, have at it. Its just perspective chief. You don't keep any. Not sure why I'm responding really ha. Its useless.

I did not try 2 showcase Fergusson as a great fighter , only as another worthy win 4 McCall .
And Mercer "avenged" his loss 2 Fergusson only on paper .
And Fergusson deserved d decision against Holmes .
And 4 all of Akinwande's wins that u mentioned , u happened 2 forget about his stoppage win over Alexander Zolkin , his KO3 over Jeremy Williams , a UD12 over Tony Tucker , a UD12 over n undefeated Alex Schulz in Germany and a UD12 over Cisse Salif in which Salif went down , of course . Y did u omit all of these ? didn't fit your agenda ?

Again , this is not trying 2 depict Akinwande as a top 10 all time heavyweight , just as what he was and another very good (at least) KO win 4 McCall . But u won't give McCall his dues , will u ? it doesn't fit your agenda . Let me guess , Muhammad Ali was d greatest .

[Master]

Muhammid Ali is the greatest.

[THE THIRD MAN]

like i give a shit about Fleischer . Y didn't u mention Bert Sugar ? that genious with d hat and d cigar ? i adore those idiots .

Greb couldn't crack n egg and was a dirty fighter . Y do u give credit 4 a supposed sportsman 4 violating d rules of d sport in which u rank him ? I guess u don't even know what i'm referring 2 here , do u ?

He was also stopped twice and was beaten by Tiger Flowers whom was KOd in 1 by old and blind Sam Langford . Since u do think that d fights during that era were 4 real then u should recognize what i posted now .

Eddie Booker KOd Archie Wright , Charley Burley couldn't . If u want 2 rank Burley ahead of Booker then i don't have much of a problem with it , but does listing Booker mean that d whole BMR should b in ? as if he was d worst of them or something like ? all i imply is that Burley and Booker should b ranked close , even if u choose 2 rank Burley higher .
If u don't understand it then u'r ignorant idiot , but that was already proven .

There is some romanticized plasticized fairy tailized element in d Chavez legacy/legend . i agree on this 2 a little Xtent , meaning that i don't fully reject that claim of yours . But what plastic fairy tale about him destroying Meldrick Taylor twice ? beating Camacho ? gamely fighting LaPorte in his own game more or less ? stopping Roger Mayweather twice ? stopping Mario Martinez just after Martinez stopped a 27 years old Rolando Navarette . I could go on but all of these and more were all plastic fairy tales .
Ray Leonard's , Joe Louis's , Muhammad Ali's , Larry Holmes' , Jack Dempsey's , Gene Tunney's and Rocco Marchegiano's careers all were mucho mas plastic fairy tales than Chavez' .
Even Roberto Duran's and Thomas Hearns' .
I Xpect u not 2 reply 2 this because i know that u'r shitting crap and have no answers 2 my questions and statements here . U'll ignore them just like d rest b4 u did .

I prefer rogues to imbeciles, because sometimes they take a rest.

[IamInuit]

like i give a shit about Fleischer . Y didn't u mention Bert Sugar ? that genious with d hat and d cigar ? i adore those idiots .

Greb couldn't crack n egg and was a dirty fighter . Y do u give credit 4 a supposed sportsman 4 violating d rules of d sport in which u rank him ? I guess u don't even know what i'm referring 2 here , do u ?

He was also stopped twice and was beaten by Tiger Flowers whom was KOd in 1 by old and blind Sam Langford . Since u do think that d fights during that era were 4 real then u should recognize what i posted now .

Eddie Booker KOd Archie Wright , Charley Burley couldn't . If u want 2 rank Burley ahead of Booker then i don't have much of a problem with it , but does listing Booker mean that d whole BMR should b in ? as if he was d worst of them or something like ? all i imply is that Burley and Booker should b ranked close , even if u choose 2 rank Burley higher .
If u don't understand it then u'r ignorant idiot , but that was already proven .

There is some romanticized plasticized fairy tailized element in d Chavez legacy/legend . i agree on this 2 a little Xtent , meaning that i don't fully reject that claim of yours . But what plastic fairy tale about him destroying Meldrick Taylor twice ? beating Camacho ? gamely fighting LaPorte in his own game more or less ? stopping Roger Mayweather twice ? stopping Mario Martinez just after Martinez stopped a 27 years old Rolando Navarette . I could go on but all of these and more were all plastic fairy tales .
Ray Leonard's , Joe Louis's , Muhammad Ali's , Larry Holmes' , Jack Dempsey's , Gene Tunney's and Rocco Marchegiano's careers all were mucho mas plastic fairy tales than Chavez' .
Even Roberto Duran's and Thomas Hearns' .
I Xpect u not 2 reply 2 this because i know that u'r shitting crap and have no answers 2 my questions and statements here . U'll ignore them just like d rest b4 u did .

I prefer rogues to imbeciles, because sometimes they take a rest.

The moron has no clue what he's talking about. He claims Greb was dirty and yet it was he who was blinded by Norfolks thumbing and thumbing happened all the time in Grebs era. I mean for God sake Dempsey studied grappling.

Somehow I'm "shitting my pants" now because I choose not to engage a guy who has no clue about history anytime before the 1990's. Like it matters whether Greb could crack an egg or not. Served him well as he fought 45 times in one year.

I mean look how he described people against Chavez. How can any even remedial fan of boxing history pay any notice to this clown at all.

As the old saying goes..., never argue with an idiot as they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.


Oh and by the way, Greb was only stopped twice in over 300 fights with one because of a busted arm and Flowers beat him after he had fought close to 300 on points.

[frankenfrank]

Muhammid Ali is the greatest.

Right

[frankenfrank]

The moron has no clue what he's talking about. He claims Greb was dirty and yet it was he who was blinded by Norfolks thumbing and thumbing happened all the time in Grebs era. I mean for God sake Dempsey studied grappling.

So Greb fought in a dirty era , i get it , fine , i will try not 2 mention it again .
But he still was a dirty fighter himself though .

Somehow I'm "shitting my pants" now because I choose not to engage a guy who has no clue about history anytime before the 1990's. Like it matters whether Greb could crack an egg or not. Served him well as he fought 45 times in one year.

I mean look how he described people against Chavez. How can any even remedial fan of boxing history pay any notice to this clown at all.

what do u mean by this ? u think all of his opponents that i mentioned don't matter ?

As the old saying goes..., never argue with an idiot as they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

Correct .

Oh and by the way, Greb was only stopped twice in over 300 fights with one because of a busted arm and Flowers beat him after he had fought close to 300 on points.

Hearns was KOd by Hagler because of a busted arm . Arms can turn 2b as important as chins , surprised ?

And it's not like Greb's "close to 300 on points" was all 15 or even 10 rounders , he had lots of exhibitions and sparing sessions listed as pro fights , not a big deal by 2day's standards if u decide 2 list them . lots of 6 rounders on his and his contemporaries records . Flowers was only 1 year younger and with wear and tear not 2 far from Greb's by d time they fought .

[TitoFan]

In a nutshell, this guy comes in here and has basically posted nowhere else but on this thread. He's made it a point to turn traditional rankings upside down with warped logic, and expects us true boxing fans to agree. Some of us have given it a go for awhile, but eventually give up on the poor ignoramus. Personally, I stopped arguing about 3 pages ago, when he ranked Robbie Sims ahead of Tommy Hearns. I'm sure even Robbie's parents would beg to differ.

He pulls these "factors" out of his ass, and uses them to "back up" his arguments. At first it's quite disconcerting.... then it becomes a bit amusing.... gradually becoming ridiculously funny..... and finally ending up quite sad and annoying. Eventually, we all end up pulling the plug.

[ElTerribleMorales]

to sum up all of frankfurter's posts....

[X]

Don't be winding Frankenfrank up, I'm sure he's a monstor for his weight.

[X]

I mewn 'r hysbryd chan hon dadlau , dyma 'm restra chan dduw s bau

1. Jimmy Wilde
2. 'Peerless' Jim Driscoll
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. Freddie Welsh
5. Howard Winstone
6. Tommy Farr
7. Colin Jones
8. Percy Jones
9. Frank Moody
10. Tom Thomas

I would agree that our list isn't as prolific as some countries with such a great and proud boxing heritage like Mexico, Cuba, the US and many central american countries ...... but it's not bad for a little country with less than 3m people in it.

Cymru am byth