Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
So my man, you rag on fighters and ranked challengers you have never seen actually fight in regards to a hof'r and a guy you dismiss but then use a Jesse fuckin Fergusson and Akinwande to legitimize a "great fighter" in Oliver McCall. Point of a McCall, Barkley and Gonzalez is all guys of that nature have a few surprises, but also let downs. Don't you see the total foley in what you speak? You can watch boxers box to see great talent or a worthy fighter but it doesn't jump off of pages or chat rooms by itself. I can say pretty safely I've spent more years watching fighters begin, peak and end than the years you have collectively spent Googling and "browsin boxrec" to judge fighters you really cannot.
Since u'r questioning my hundreds of fights multiple viewing Xperience , praising bums and dissing very good and sometimes great fighters i have 2 ask u if u watched Jesse Fergusson in his winning efforts or just d losing 1s ? same with Akinwande . admittedly i haven't managed 2 get all of their interesting winning efforts so that's Y i haven't watched them all , but since u diss them , have u watched Ferguson outpoint Douglas and then Mercer (*2 probably) ? r u even aware of these accomplishments when u diss them d way u do while at d same spirit praising bums ? Ferguson and Akinwande at least proved themselves by winning fights against good opponents and lasting d distance against others . Did Alex Sanchez ever managed such a feat besides losing a decision 2 Ivan Calderon ? which is his (Sanchez') greatest achievement by far BTW .
And since u've seen d great "El Nene" at work , as opposed 2 I , can u educate me a bit on his achievements ? since i couldn't figure any .
This is like watching a stray kitten walk along a busy highway ffs. Dude...their is no dissing on them, nice swerve and attempt to spin but you can save that. Your just trying to make guys into things they were not. "Lasting the distance" is something a guy not expected to win is told as a token. It certainly doesn't translate into being a testament to quality or greatness. It means you are a tough nut and maybe have a hard head but true skill is like pornography...you know it when you see it. Ferguson was a tough nut. Douglas had more ups and downs than a Nevada brothel in career, mentally and physically he was erratic and a younger Boogie Man managed a majority call. BFD. Ferguson fell into the epitome of a journeyman. Brought in as an opponent and over the next decade or so his "notable" win was over a bloated unmotivated version of Mercer who was more content to try to bribe him, literally, and the loss was later avenged. Hey, good on Ferguson. He earned that win. For personal gratification I'll toss in his "upset" over a badly over hyped Sampson Po'uha which was piss in your pants funny to watch. He smacked around a 44 yr old Holmes but lost, but so did Navarre and Oliver McCall in Holmes very next fight.

As far as I'm concerned whatever stock (.....) that was put into Akinwande went out the window when he did his impression of a terrified panic stricken wet blanket vs. Lennox Lewis in what has be one of the poorest excuses for a challenge in recent history. After that "fight" if you want to hang you hat on wins over Timo Hoffman, a Mo Harris or a bad version of Orlin Norris who was recently off of terrible dec wins and a ko loss, at cruiser weight, have at it. Its just perspective chief. You don't keep any. Not sure why I'm responding really ha. Its useless.