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    Default Re: If Floyd never fights Manny...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    How about you naysayers answer one of my questions!!!!!

    Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

    @ fan johnny @Rantcatrat @mikeeod
    What does it prove? It's an entirely different point and off topic.

    Why do you consider me a naysayer? Have I ever said Floyd Mayweather isn't a great? Did I ever say he wasn't a great boxer? Whether Floyd makes more money than anyone in boxing's history though isn't important to me. The only difference between you and I is that I could care less about his business decisions whereas you drool over his money and admire his brand. I want to see good fights. I want to see challenging fights. Fights that are close on paper. I'm a boxing fan.
    No! This is the very point of my argument. I've been saying it from the start you've just been ignoring it. You're a small closed minded boxing fan that wants to see the best lose. You have no appreciation for all that Floyd has accomplished within the sport of boxing.

    Floyd is The Best Ever because he has elevated himself to the highest level in the sport of boxing.

    Answer my one little question. Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

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    Default Re: If Floyd never fights Manny...

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    How about you naysayers answer one of my questions!!!!!

    Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

    @ fan johnny @Rantcatrat @mikeeod
    What does it prove? It's an entirely different point and off topic.

    Why do you consider me a naysayer? Have I ever said Floyd Mayweather isn't a great? Did I ever say he wasn't a great boxer? Whether Floyd makes more money than anyone in boxing's history though isn't important to me. The only difference between you and I is that I could care less about his business decisions whereas you drool over his money and admire his brand. I want to see good fights. I want to see challenging fights. Fights that are close on paper. I'm a boxing fan.
    No! This is the very point of my argument. I've been saying it from the start you've just been ignoring it. You're a small closed minded boxing fan that wants to see the best lose. You have no appreciation for all that Floyd has accomplished within the sport of boxing.

    Floyd is The Best Ever because he has elevated himself to the highest level in the sport of boxing.

    Answer my one little question. Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?
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    Default Re: If Floyd never fights Manny...

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    Muhammid Ali
    HAHA....(You didn't even spell his name right.)
    Last edited by ruthless rocco; 10-08-2014 at 11:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Muhammid Ali
    HAHA....(You didn't even spell his name right.)
    Actually Rocco, it's an Arabic word spelled in English, so there is no right or wrong. Al Qaeda is another example. Bin Laden is another. Every time you post I lose a little more respect for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Muhammid Ali
    HAHA....(You didn't even spell his name right.)
    Actually Rocco, it's an Arabic word spelled in English, so there is no right or wrong. Al Qaeda is another example. Bin Laden is another. Every time you post I lose a little more respect for you.

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    Default Re: If Floyd never fights Manny...

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    How about you naysayers answer one of my questions!!!!!

    Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

    @ fan johnny @Rantcatrat @mikeeod
    What does it prove? It's an entirely different point and off topic.

    Why do you consider me a naysayer? Have I ever said Floyd Mayweather isn't a great? Did I ever say he wasn't a great boxer? Whether Floyd makes more money than anyone in boxing's history though isn't important to me. The only difference between you and I is that I could care less about his business decisions whereas you drool over his money and admire his brand. I want to see good fights. I want to see challenging fights. Fights that are close on paper. I'm a boxing fan.
    No! This is the very point of my argument. I've been saying it from the start you've just been ignoring it. You're a small closed minded boxing fan that wants to see the best lose. You have no appreciation for all that Floyd has accomplished within the sport of boxing.

    Floyd is The Best Ever because he has elevated himself to the highest level in the sport of boxing.

    Answer my one little question. Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?
    I hate to even respond to you Rocco, because I'm convinced that you are a troll and a jack ass. Where your thinking is flawed, is we don't want to see Floyd lose, we want to see him WIN. When I watch Floyd fight GGG, it isn't to see Floyd get his head knocked off, it's to watch him put on a masterpiece and confirm that he is as great as I think he is. Floyd vs Ward, or Wlad, or Hop are unrealistic and unfair. Floyd fighting GGG at 154? That's about as fair of a fight as you can get, and even if Floyd loses,naw long as he put on a good performance, he won't lose stature in anyone's eyes.

    Who has accomplished more?!? Henry Armstrong held 3 world championships simultaneously when there were only 8 weight classes and one champ per weight. Sugar Ray Robinson beat numerous prime ATG and HOF fighters, and won in spectacular fashion. Muhammad Ali transcended the sport and beat the greatest set of challengers the heavyweight division has ever produced. I can go on but you get the picture.

    Here is what you guys do: you go to the extreme when other knowledgable fans state Floyd's greatness, but font go overboard and buy the bs that he is the greatest. For Floyd not to make the Manny fight is unforgivable. That act alone keeps him out of my top 20 ATG. Oscar fought Sweet Pea, Prime Mosely, Prime Hop, Prime Tito, Prime Quartey, undefeated Miguel Gonzalez, 1 loss Vargas...etc. Mosely fought prime Oscar, Prime Floyd, a Prime Forrest, Prime Winky, Prime Cotto...etc. Hop fought Prime a Roy,Prime Tito, Prime Pavilik, Prime Tarver, Prime Winky, Prime Joe C., Prime Dawson, Prime Pascal, Prime Kovalev. All of those guys fought their biggest threats (identified by fans n media) even though those other guys had rival promoters and networks. They made those fights and sought out the biggest challenges to prove their greatness. It's what great fighters do. Floyd did that prior to JLC and I haven't seen him do it since...

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    Default Re: If Floyd never fights Manny...

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    I hate to even respond to you Rocco, because I'm convinced that you are a troll and a jack ass. Where your thinking is flawed, is we don't want to see Floyd lose, we want to see him WIN. When I watch Floyd fight GGG, it isn't to see Floyd get his head knocked off, it's to watch him put on a masterpiece and confirm that he is as great as I think he is. Floyd vs Ward, or Wlad, or Hop are unrealistic and unfair. Floyd fighting GGG at 154? That's about as fair of a fight as you can get, and even if Floyd loses,naw long as he put on a good performance, he won't lose stature in anyone's eyes.

    Who has accomplished more?!? Henry Armstrong held 3 world championships simultaneously when there were only 8 weight classes and one champ per weight. Sugar Ray Robinson beat numerous prime ATG and HOF fighters, and won in spectacular fashion. Muhammad Ali transcended the sport and beat the greatest set of challengers the heavyweight division has ever produced. I can go on but you get the picture.

    Here is what you guys do: you go to the extreme when other knowledgable fans state Floyd's greatness, but font go overboard and buy the bs that he is the greatest. For Floyd not to make the Manny fight is unforgivable. That act alone keeps him out of my top 20 ATG. Oscar fought Sweet Pea, Prime Mosely, Prime Hop, Prime Tito, Prime Quartey, undefeated Miguel Gonzalez, 1 loss Vargas...etc. Mosely fought prime Oscar, Prime Floyd, a Prime Forrest, Prime Winky, Prime Cotto...etc. Hop fought Prime a Roy,Prime Tito, Prime Pavilik, Prime Tarver, Prime Winky, Prime Joe C., Prime Dawson, Prime Pascal, Prime Kovalev. All of those guys fought their biggest threats (identified by fans n media) even though those other guys had rival promoters and networks. They made those fights and sought out the biggest challenges to prove their greatness. It's what great fighters do. Floyd did that prior to JLC and I haven't seen him do it since...
    But we all know that Floyd is past his prime. He isn't his best anymore and he never will be. If he were younger and still had the speed, the stamina, the movement, the power he held at the lower weights then I'd be all for him fighting a much bigger opponent. At this point in his life, a 38 year old Floyd is not going to fare well against a GGG like opponent. Surely you can recognize that by insisting that he fight a future light heavy that you're only looking for him to lose and probably by brutal KO. You can dress it up however you like. You can claim that you want him to show how masterful he is but you're lying to yourself if that's what you believe. If Floyd made GGG go down to 154 all you dicks would be complaining about how Floyd made GGG weight drained. He didn't allow GGG to be the best fighter he could be, etc... Give me a break!

    You hold Floyd out of your personal top 20 because you attribute the failure of a Pac fight not happening? Wow! Delusional?

    As for all the great fighters you've listed above... They're all great! Some of the very best of all time! But Floyd has somethings that the rest of them don't have: A perfect record over 19 years. A championship run of 16 years. A shit load of money. A promotional company. His brains and body. The satisfaction that he did it his way -- the whole way.
    Last edited by ruthless rocco; 10-09-2014 at 12:38 AM.

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    Default Re: If Floyd never fights Manny...

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    How about you naysayers answer one of my questions!!!!!

    Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

    @ fan johnny @Rantcatrat @mikeeod
    What does it prove? It's an entirely different point and off topic.

    Why do you consider me a naysayer? Have I ever said Floyd Mayweather isn't a great? Did I ever say he wasn't a great boxer? Whether Floyd makes more money than anyone in boxing's history though isn't important to me. The only difference between you and I is that I could care less about his business decisions whereas you drool over his money and admire his brand. I want to see good fights. I want to see challenging fights. Fights that are close on paper. I'm a boxing fan.
    No! This is the very point of my argument. I've been saying it from the start you've just been ignoring it. You're a small closed minded boxing fan that wants to see the best lose. You have no appreciation for all that Floyd has accomplished within the sport of boxing.

    Floyd is The Best Ever because he has elevated himself to the highest level in the sport of boxing.

    Answer my one little question. Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?
    I hate to even respond to you Rocco, because I'm convinced that you are a troll and a jack ass. Where your thinking is flawed, is we don't want to see Floyd lose, we want to see him WIN. When I watch Floyd fight GGG, it isn't to see Floyd get his head knocked off, it's to watch him put on a masterpiece and confirm that he is as great as I think he is. Floyd vs Ward, or Wlad, or Hop are unrealistic and unfair. Floyd fighting GGG at 154? That's about as fair of a fight as you can get, and even if Floyd loses,naw long as he put on a good performance, he won't lose stature in anyone's eyes.

    Who has accomplished more?!? Henry Armstrong held 3 world championships simultaneously when there were only 8 weight classes and one champ per weight. Sugar Ray Robinson beat numerous prime ATG and HOF fighters, and won in spectacular fashion. Muhammad Ali transcended the sport and beat the greatest set of challengers the heavyweight division has ever produced. I can go on but you get the picture.

    Here is what you guys do: you go to the extreme when other knowledgable fans state Floyd's greatness, but font go overboard and buy the bs that he is the greatest. For Floyd not to make the Manny fight is unforgivable. That act alone keeps him out of my top 20 ATG. Oscar fought Sweet Pea, Prime Mosely, Prime Hop, Prime Tito, Prime Quartey, undefeated Miguel Gonzalez, 1 loss Vargas...etc. Mosely fought prime Oscar, Prime Floyd, a Prime Forrest, Prime Winky, Prime Cotto...etc. Hop fought Prime a Roy,Prime Tito, Prime Pavilik, Prime Tarver, Prime Winky, Prime Joe C., Prime Dawson, Prime Pascal, Prime Kovalev. All of those guys fought their biggest threats (identified by fans n media) even though those other guys had rival promoters and networks. They made those fights and sought out the biggest challenges to prove their greatness. It's what great fighters do. Floyd did that prior to JLC and I haven't seen him do it since...
    You make it sound like GGG deserves the fight?! GGG has fought a bunch of B level fighters and is hardly a household name. Yet you want a Floyd to fight him at a weight that is hardly ideal for either fighter. Get the hell out of here. You are a hater. Even if Floyd fought him and beat him...haters like you will use excuses like "GGG was weight drained", etc.

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    I'm fine with them not piecing together what's left of primes and charging $74.95 for me to watch and pretend it means something. Some things are only great if done at the heat of a peak, culmination etc and this match is was one to me. They BOTH blew it arguing over silk underwear and who gets more green M&Ms in the dressing room like divas. A jr welter moving up roughed up and buzzed this Mayweather, does anyone honestly believe Floyd with go up two division and meet Golovkin for anything other than a fair well mega payday affair? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    How about you naysayers answer one of my questions!!!!!

    Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

    @ fan johnny @Rantcatrat @mikeeod
    What does it prove? It's an entirely different point and off topic.

    Why do you consider me a naysayer? Have I ever said Floyd Mayweather isn't a great? Did I ever say he wasn't a great boxer? Whether Floyd makes more money than anyone in boxing's history though isn't important to me. The only difference between you and I is that I could care less about his business decisions whereas you drool over his money and admire his brand. I want to see good fights. I want to see challenging fights. Fights that are close on paper. I'm a boxing fan.
    No! This is the very point of my argument. I've been saying it from the start you've just been ignoring it. You're a small closed minded boxing fan that wants to see the best lose. You have no appreciation for all that Floyd has accomplished within the sport of boxing.

    Floyd is The Best Ever because he has elevated himself to the highest level in the sport of boxing.

    Answer my one little question. Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?
    I hate to even respond to you Rocco, because I'm convinced that you are a troll and a jack ass. Where your thinking is flawed, is we don't want to see Floyd lose, we want to see him WIN. When I watch Floyd fight GGG, it isn't to see Floyd get his head knocked off, it's to watch him put on a masterpiece and confirm that he is as great as I think he is. Floyd vs Ward, or Wlad, or Hop are unrealistic and unfair. Floyd fighting GGG at 154? That's about as fair of a fight as you can get, and even if Floyd loses,naw long as he put on a good performance, he won't lose stature in anyone's eyes.

    Who has accomplished more?!? Henry Armstrong held 3 world championships simultaneously when there were only 8 weight classes and one champ per weight. Sugar Ray Robinson beat numerous prime ATG and HOF fighters, and won in spectacular fashion. Muhammad Ali transcended the sport and beat the greatest set of challengers the heavyweight division has ever produced. I can go on but you get the picture.

    Here is what you guys do: you go to the extreme when other knowledgable fans state Floyd's greatness, but font go overboard and buy the bs that he is the greatest. For Floyd not to make the Manny fight is unforgivable. That act alone keeps him out of my top 20 ATG. Oscar fought Sweet Pea, Prime Mosely, Prime Hop, Prime Tito, Prime Quartey, undefeated Miguel Gonzalez, 1 loss Vargas...etc. Mosely fought prime Oscar, Prime Floyd, a Prime Forrest, Prime Winky, Prime Cotto...etc. Hop fought Prime a Roy,Prime Tito, Prime Pavilik, Prime Tarver, Prime Winky, Prime Joe C., Prime Dawson, Prime Pascal, Prime Kovalev. All of those guys fought their biggest threats (identified by fans n media) even though those other guys had rival promoters and networks. They made those fights and sought out the biggest challenges to prove their greatness. It's what great fighters do. Floyd did that prior to JLC and I haven't seen him do it since...
    You make it sound like GGG deserves the fight?! GGG has fought a bunch of B level fighters and is hardly a household name. Yet you want a Floyd to fight him at a weight that is hardly ideal for either fighter. Get the hell out of here. You are a hater. Even if Floyd fought him and beat him...haters like you will use excuses like "GGG was weight drained", etc.
    You make no sense in your argument. You say GGG hasn't beaten anyone and isn't deserving to fight Floyd, yet throw out excuses as to why Floyd would lose. Also, why would I say that I would like to see Floyd fight GGG and the win would be impressive and then make up reasons to diminish it? That is pretty pointless. Also, how am I a hater if I constantly praise Floyd's greatness and skill in the ring? Do you feel that by closing your eyes, putting your fingers in your ears and calling me a hater it somehow cancels out all of the valid points I've made?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    How about you naysayers answer one of my questions!!!!!

    Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

    @ fan johnny @Rantcatrat @mikeeod
    What does it prove? It's an entirely different point and off topic.

    Why do you consider me a naysayer? Have I ever said Floyd Mayweather isn't a great? Did I ever say he wasn't a great boxer? Whether Floyd makes more money than anyone in boxing's history though isn't important to me. The only difference between you and I is that I could care less about his business decisions whereas you drool over his money and admire his brand. I want to see good fights. I want to see challenging fights. Fights that are close on paper. I'm a boxing fan.
    No! This is the very point of my argument. I've been saying it from the start you've just been ignoring it. You're a small closed minded boxing fan that wants to see the best lose. You have no appreciation for all that Floyd has accomplished within the sport of boxing.

    Floyd is The Best Ever because he has elevated himself to the highest level in the sport of boxing.

    Answer my one little question. Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?
    I hate to even respond to you Rocco, because I'm convinced that you are a troll and a jack ass. Where your thinking is flawed, is we don't want to see Floyd lose, we want to see him WIN. When I watch Floyd fight GGG, it isn't to see Floyd get his head knocked off, it's to watch him put on a masterpiece and confirm that he is as great as I think he is. Floyd vs Ward, or Wlad, or Hop are unrealistic and unfair. Floyd fighting GGG at 154? That's about as fair of a fight as you can get, and even if Floyd loses,naw long as he put on a good performance, he won't lose stature in anyone's eyes.

    Who has accomplished more?!? Henry Armstrong held 3 world championships simultaneously when there were only 8 weight classes and one champ per weight. Sugar Ray Robinson beat numerous prime ATG and HOF fighters, and won in spectacular fashion. Muhammad Ali transcended the sport and beat the greatest set of challengers the heavyweight division has ever produced. I can go on but you get the picture.

    Here is what you guys do: you go to the extreme when other knowledgable fans state Floyd's greatness, but font go overboard and buy the bs that he is the greatest. For Floyd not to make the Manny fight is unforgivable. That act alone keeps him out of my top 20 ATG. Oscar fought Sweet Pea, Prime Mosely, Prime Hop, Prime Tito, Prime Quartey, undefeated Miguel Gonzalez, 1 loss Vargas...etc. Mosely fought prime Oscar, Prime Floyd, a Prime Forrest, Prime Winky, Prime Cotto...etc. Hop fought Prime a Roy,Prime Tito, Prime Pavilik, Prime Tarver, Prime Winky, Prime Joe C., Prime Dawson, Prime Pascal, Prime Kovalev. All of those guys fought their biggest threats (identified by fans n media) even though those other guys had rival promoters and networks. They made those fights and sought out the biggest challenges to prove their greatness. It's what great fighters do. Floyd did that prior to JLC and I haven't seen him do it since...
    You make it sound like GGG deserves the fight?! GGG has fought a bunch of B level fighters and is hardly a household name. Yet you want a Floyd to fight him at a weight that is hardly ideal for either fighter. Get the hell out of here. You are a hater. Even if Floyd fought him and beat him...haters like you will use excuses like "GGG was weight drained", etc.
    You make no sense in your argument. You say GGG hasn't beaten anyone and isn't deserving to fight Floyd, yet throw out excuses as to why Floyd would lose. Also, why would I say that I would like to see Floyd fight GGG and the win would be impressive and then make up reasons to diminish it? That is pretty pointless. Also, how am I a hater if I constantly praise Floyd's greatness and skill in the ring? Do you feel that by closing your eyes, putting your fingers in your ears and calling me a hater it somehow cancels out all of the valid points I've made?
    I never said i thought Floyd would lose! This fight would NEVER happen at 160...and rightfully so. So if they fought at a catch weight or 154 and Mayweather won...Floyd haters already have the built in excuse that he fought a weight drained fighter. You are also making it seem like fighting and beating GGG is something the public is clamoring for...when in fact GGG is hardly a big name...not to mention that his resume hardly warrants a fight against the biggest name in boxing.

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