If Floyd never fights Manny...

[Rantcatrat]

How about you naysayers answer one of my questions!!!!!

Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

@ fan johnny @Rantcatrat @mikeeod

What does it prove? It's an entirely different point and off topic.

Why do you consider me a naysayer? Have I ever said Floyd Mayweather isn't a great? Did I ever say he wasn't a great boxer? Whether Floyd makes more money than anyone in boxing's history though isn't important to me. The only difference between you and I is that I could care less about his business decisions whereas you drool over his money and admire his brand. I want to see good fights. I want to see challenging fights. Fights that are close on paper. I'm a boxing fan.

[imp]

How about you naysayers answer one of my questions!!!!!

Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

@ fan johnny @Rantcatrat @mikeeod

What does it prove? It's an entirely different point and off topic.

Why do you consider me a naysayer? Have I ever said Floyd Mayweather isn't a great? Did I ever say he wasn't a great boxer? Whether Floyd makes more money than anyone in boxing's history though isn't important to me. The only difference between you and I is that I could care less about his business decisions whereas you drool over his money and admire his brand. I want to see good fights. I want to see challenging fights. Fights that are close on paper. I'm a boxing fan.

We are all boxing fans.

What fight do you want? (Lets not talk about pac)

No one will ever be happy with his choice as they dont see past the character he plays..

[Master]

Muhammid Ali has accomplished more by being a global icon and transcending the sport, whereas a Jamaican lady does not know who Floyd is.

[imp]

Why cant ggg step up and face ward.?

Always an excuse.

[mikeeod]

Why cant ggg step up and face ward.?

Always an excuse.

Ward isn't fighting and isn't calling GGG out. GGG is destroying anyone who gets in the ring with him. Cotto won't even mention his name. It's like asking why Hop and Hagler avoided so many big fights for so many years. Everyone avoided them like they avoid GGG. I'm sure once GGG cleans out middleweight he will look for Ward. If GGG starts running around with a TBE shirt, I will want him to back it up in the ring and take some big risks as well.

[Rantcatrat]

Why cant ggg step up and face ward.?

Always an excuse.

@imp - this isn't the point of the thread, but I agree with you to an extent. I said last year if GGG cleaned out the division, he should move up because there wouldn't be anything left for him to do at middleweight. Frankly, after Rubio I'm not sure there is anyone else really left at 160 for him to fight. I know he wants Canelo/Cotto, but he isn't going to get them in the same city, let alone a ring. He should move up. Froch or Ward would be great. I wouldn't fault him for either.

[imp]

Floyd fights cotto at his weight and beats him and theres an excuse.

Cotto beats a one legged martinez and theres no excuse.

What is it with boxing fans defending bigger guys picking on little guys rather than fighting their own weight and higher.

[mikeeod]

Floyd fights cotto at his weight and beats him and theres an excuse.

Cotto beats a one legged martinez and theres no excuse.

What is it with boxing fans defending bigger guys picking on little guys rather than fighting their own weight and higher.

I disagree with your statement. Cotto is damaged goods and I think most on this forum agree that Cotto was in the right place, at the right time to become mw champ. I have seen numerous posters correctly state that Cotto isn't the best or most daunting MW right now and that GGG and Quillin are superior at that weight.

If Canelo, Quillin, Mayweather or GGG fight Cotto, there will be a new champ for that weight. Most on here, if not all, correctly admire Cotto's desire to fight the best and seek the biggest challenges. Another poster was spot on in saying that Martinez was begging to fight Floyd for years and took Cotto as a consolation. As impressed as I was with Cotto for chasing that fight and as daunting as it appeared to be prior to the first bell, you would have to be blind to not recognize how Sergio's knee hampered his style in the ring.

I would like to see Floyd consistently challenge himself and make a statement by beating the biggest challenge (realistically, not Wlad...etc.) available. Some of the fights weren't Floyd's fault as he did pursue Mosely while Shane was closer to his prime...etc. I still would've lived to have seen Floyd swallow a little ego and fight Kostya, Bradley, Paul Williams, Winky (they were negotiating and had pretty much reached a deal at one point), Sergio Martinez and of course Manny. He never fought them for various reasons but guys in the pantheon like Robinson, Duran, Leonard...etc., would have found a way to make those big fights happen. At least some of them.

[imp]

If floyd never fought canelo everyone would be saying he is ducking him.

Be honest.

Floyd is old and still fighting the best out there.

[mikeeod]

If floyd never fought canelo everyone would be saying he is ducking him.

Be honest.

Floyd is old and still fighting the best out there.

I think I put Floyd's win over Canelo in proper perspective. It was a good win, and Canelo is younger and larger. I also knew that Floyd would win that pretty easy due to Canelo being one dimensional and relatively inexperienced at that elite level. Still was a good performance.

I also tend to give Floyd more credit than most for his wins over Judah and Baldomir. Judah is awkward and talented and I thought Floyd looked great setting traps and adjusting as the fight went on in that one. Baldy was hitting his stride and was a much bigger man who had developed solid skills. They weren't great wins, but they were better than most give credit for.

I was not impressed with the Cotto win and I wouldn't be impressed if he beat him again. Cotto just isn't what he was in his prime. He has slipped. Floyd's wins over Mosely, Oscar, Sharmba Mitchell and Cotto were diminished in my eyes as those men were not anywhere near their primes at the time.

Young Floyd had the mentality of a great fighter. He had that desire to "slay the dragon" and beat the toughest challenge out there. He CHASED Chico. He DEMANDED that fight to prove his greatness. Same with Castillo. He jumped up with no tune ups and took on the true champ who was hitting his stride and cleaning out the division. Floyd has fought solid competition since then, no doubt. He hasn't strived to prove his greatness and make the really big fights like he used to either, and that is what fans are unhappy about. It isn't hating. It's just being honest and stating why a fighter isn't as great in your personal opinion.

[ruthless rocco]

Barring a fight with any current middleweight, super middleweight, lightheavy etc...

Who do you view as a legitimate challenge for Floyd?

Who would you be satisfied with him fighting? (Who would stop your stupid baby whining?)


@mikeeod @Rantcatrat @imp @zhubin
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[ruthless rocco]

How about you naysayers answer one of my questions!!!!!

Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

@ fan johnny @Rantcatrat @mikeeod

What does it prove? It's an entirely different point and off topic.

Why do you consider me a naysayer? Have I ever said Floyd Mayweather isn't a great? Did I ever say he wasn't a great boxer? Whether Floyd makes more money than anyone in boxing's history though isn't important to me. The only difference between you and I is that I could care less about his business decisions whereas you drool over his money and admire his brand. I want to see good fights. I want to see challenging fights. Fights that are close on paper. I'm a boxing fan.

No! This is the very point of my argument. I've been saying it from the start you've just been ignoring it. You're a small closed minded boxing fan that wants to see the best lose. You have no appreciation for all that Floyd has accomplished within the sport of boxing.

Floyd is The Best Ever because he has elevated himself to the highest level in the sport of boxing.

Answer my one little question. Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

[Master]

How about you naysayers answer one of my questions!!!!!

Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

@ fan johnny @Rantcatrat @mikeeod

What does it prove? It's an entirely different point and off topic.

Why do you consider me a naysayer? Have I ever said Floyd Mayweather isn't a great? Did I ever say he wasn't a great boxer? Whether Floyd makes more money than anyone in boxing's history though isn't important to me. The only difference between you and I is that I could care less about his business decisions whereas you drool over his money and admire his brand. I want to see good fights. I want to see challenging fights. Fights that are close on paper. I'm a boxing fan.

No! This is the very point of my argument. I've been saying it from the start you've just been ignoring it. You're a small closed minded boxing fan that wants to see the best lose. You have no appreciation for all that Floyd has accomplished within the sport of boxing.

Floyd is The Best Ever because he has elevated himself to the highest level in the sport of boxing.

Answer my one little question. Who has accomplished more in the sport of boxing than Floyd?

Muhammid Ali

[ruthless rocco]

Muhammid Ali

HAHA....(You didn't even spell his name right.)

[mikeeod]

Muhammid Ali

HAHA....(You didn't even spell his name right.)

Actually Rocco, it's an Arabic word spelled in English, so there is no right or wrong. Al Qaeda is another example. Bin Laden is another. Every time you post I lose a little more respect for you.