Nobody beats 1960 to 1967 Muhammad Ali, EVER!

[brocktonblockbust]

Nobody could touch him. Nobody could even see him. Blinding speed. Piercing punches. Excitement and charisma to infinity. Great looks. Eloquent. Witty. Pretty.

Sickening how every man, woman no matter how great, how poor....is reduced to rubble, to dust, to scattered memories, which themselves then fade into nothingness.

What a plight mankind has.

[SugarBoxing]

Tyson under my supervision would flush him off the ring in 3 rounds

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I think 1960 - 1963 was too early, as he was young & hadn't filled out yet.

I think by 1966, he had filled out & he was in his absolute prime.

Arguably, his 'prime' years were the 3 years he spent in exile, but that's only speculation on my part.

The Ali that beat Cleveland Williams & Zora Foley was the best Ali we ever saw & arguably the finest HW ever.

[brocktonblockbust]

Tyson under my supervision would flush him off the ring in 3 rounds

I can see how only a very young and explosive and on his game Mike Tyson would have a chance.

[brocktonblockbust]

I think 1960 - 1963 was too early, as he was young & hadn't filled out yet.

I think by 1966, he had filled out & he was in his absolute prime.

Arguably, his 'prime' years were the 3 years he spent in exile, but that's only speculation on my part.

The Ali that beat Cleveland Williams & Zora Foley was the best Ali we ever saw & arguably the finest HW ever.

Too Fast. Too Fast just too fast that was his number one attribute. It was definitely not his defense on his punching power and he never punch to the body. And sometimes he seemed surprisingly easy to hit. But it was his speed it was his speed speed was the key that put him in another category compared to everybody else

[Britkid]

Tyson under my supervision would flush him off the ring in 3 rounds

I can see how only a very young and explosive and on his game Mike Tyson would have a chance.

I got caught up in the Tyson hype as much as anyone in the late 80s. But even in his pomp, in my mind, Tyson beat everyone but Ali...

[Mark TKO]

I agree 80s Tyson is the only one with a chance but Ali had a cast iron jaw and I always remember something Colin Hart said during his commentary for the Douglas fight in 1990 - "Mr Ali would have played with him"(or something very similar)

That sums up how the fight would've gone for me. Tyson explosive for 2-3 rounds then out of ideas as he got toyed with.

Stoppage for Ali from around the 8th onwards - or a Tyson DQ

[SugarBoxing]

I cast @maxpower in this thread to teach you, children, max powerism 101!

[Master]

I cast @maxpower in this thread to teach you, children, max powerism 101!

Do not let that idiot of Bill Paxtom ever come on this site again.

Tyson said Ali was just a "bad man" and would always find a way to win.

[Ron Swanson]

Tyson? Really? Embarrassing.

He would have absolutely no shot, none.

If you said a prime LL then there would be a discussion.

[Master]

Tyson? Really? Embarrassing.

He would have absolutely no shot, none.

If you said a prime LL then there would be a discussion.

Only because of his size and therefore power in every other department he was inferior.

[Britkid]

Tyson? Really? Embarrassing.

He would have absolutely no shot, none.

If you said a prime LL then there would be a discussion.

Only because of his size and therefore power in every other department he was inferior.

If you go through the hassle of inventing the time machine that throws Ali 30 years forward; then surely too you would assume Ali would be born 1970 rather than 1940, with the same advantages of a better diet that Lewis had; thus Ali surely would be a couple of inches taller and a couple of stone heavier...

[SlimTrae]

I think 1960 - 1963 was too early, as he was young & hadn't filled out yet.

I think by 1966, he had filled out & he was in his absolute prime.

Arguably, his 'prime' years were the 3 years he spent in exile, but that's only speculation on my part.

The Ali that beat Cleveland Williams & Zora Foley was the best Ali we ever saw & arguably the finest HW ever.

If Doug Jones could goad a young inexperienced Clay into a fight....pretty much anyone could.

I've always stated 64-67 Ali=undefeatable. Should've been 64-70....

[Master]

I think 1960 - 1963 was too early, as he was young & hadn't filled out yet.

I think by 1966, he had filled out & he was in his absolute prime.

Arguably, his 'prime' years were the 3 years he spent in exile, but that's only speculation on my part.

The Ali that beat Cleveland Williams & Zora Foley was the best Ali we ever saw & arguably the finest HW ever.

If Doug Jones could goad a young inexperienced Clay into a fight....pretty much anyone could.

I've always stated 64-67 Ali=undefeatable. Should've been 64-70....

The strange thing is that the exile of Ali created Frazier and the biggest fight ever. If that did not happen Joe may have got beaten by Ali as just another contender.

[SlimTrae]

You mean...would've. ...