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    Default Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    I got to say I disagree with this decision.

    The Ring Super Middleweight Ratings

    Ward destroyed the MAN in the division.

    Bute knocked out a mid-level contender.

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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut View Post
    I got to say I disagree with this decision.

    The Ring Super Middleweight Ratings

    Ward destroyed the MAN in the division.

    Bute knocked out a mid-level contender.

    wtf?

    The ring have him as number 1 I can see Bute is going to get on my tits as much as the Nonito Donaire


    Ok, Ring fucking Magazine, explain me this.....how THE FUCK can Bute be number 1 for beating a guy who had ALREADY been DOMINATED by Mikkel Kessler?

    Sure, Bute looked good in scoring a fourth round knockout, but that fight only happened because he got KTFO the first time around and was saved by a (in CMM's carefully chosen words) piece of shit ref.

    I expect what will happen now is that Bute will do nothing for a year whilst Andrade will bounce back to win a world title at 175 lbs and Bute will ride his coat tails into the Ring p4p rankings the way Donaire did with Darchinyan.

    The Ring is shit, trust the hobbit's rankings, they are the only ones that make sense these days.

    I see they have Sakio Bika at 5 ahead of Artur Abraham as well, are they using the boxrec computer this month?
    Last edited by Kev; 12-03-2009 at 10:18 PM.

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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut View Post
    I got to say I disagree with this decision.

    The Ring Super Middleweight Ratings

    Ward destroyed the MAN in the division.

    Bute knocked out a mid-level contender.
    The Ring are pathetic, there is an argument that Froch should even be higher than Bute his three wins over Pascal,Taylor and Dirrell (if you agree he won or not,its still a win) are better than anything Bute has done imo.

    1.Ward
    2.Froch
    3.Bute

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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    By the way it should be as follows.

    1. Andre Ward, no question he's number one, he beat the man he HAS to be top dog according to the Rings own ranking system

    2. Carl Froch, Ok his last win was lucky but he's beaten three excellent fighters in a row in Jean Pascal, Jermain Taylor and Andre Dirrell. Pascal is a current world champ, Taylor a former undisputed, can someone point me to all the current world champs Bute has beaten? I think 0.

    3. Lucian Bute, this is where he rightly belongs

    4. Mikkel Kessler, disappointing loss to Ward, hope he can bounce back.

    5. Artur Abraham, gatecrashed the division in style with his ko of Jermain Taylor last time out.

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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    By the way it should be as follows.

    1. Andre Ward, no question he's number one, he beat the man he HAS to be top dog according to the Rings own ranking system

    2. Carl Froch, Ok his last win was lucky but he's beaten three excellent fighters in a row in Jean Pascal, Jermain Taylor and Andre Dirrell. Pascal is a current world champ, Taylor a former undisputed, can someone point me to all the current world champs Bute has beaten? I think 0.

    3. Lucian Bute, this is where he rightly belongs

    4. Mikkel Kessler, disappointing loss to Ward, hope he can bounce back.

    5. Artur Abraham, gatecrashed the division in style with his ko of Jermain Taylor last time out.
    Berrio is the only one i can think of that Bute has beat.

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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    haha go Bute!

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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut View Post
    I got to say I disagree with this decision.

    The Ring Super Middleweight Ratings

    Ward destroyed the MAN in the division.

    Bute knocked out a mid-level contender.
    The Ring are pathetic, there is an argument that Froch should even be higher than Bute his three wins over Pascal,Taylor and Dirrell (if you agree he won or not,its still a win) are better than anything Bute has done imo.

    1.Ward
    2.Froch
    3.Bute
    That's how I would have it as well. I could even see the justification in putting Kessler ahead of Bute.

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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    1 Ward
    2 Bute
    3 Abraham

    Just because I thought (most of us) that Dirrell won vs Froch.

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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    Lol!!! Is Bute promoted by Golden Boy promotions?

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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    Now that is just silly. Bute got a good win, but it was only Andrade!

    Ward and Froch should be above him really.

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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    Yup He Should Fight Like Froch Or Kessler

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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    Quote Originally Posted by jon09 View Post
    Lol!!! Is Bute promoted by Golden Boy promotions?
    Nope. Interbox.

    PErsonally:

    Ward
    Abraham
    Bute
    Froch


    Abraham disposed of Taylor and played well with him opposite to Froch who got schooled, sparked and won because Taylor lacked of Gas. TO me, it is a major difference that explains why King Arthur should be infront of Froch.
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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut View Post
    I got to say I disagree with this decision.

    The Ring Super Middleweight Ratings

    Ward destroyed the MAN in the division.

    Bute knocked out a mid-level contender.
    The Ring are pathetic, there is an argument that Froch should even be higher than Bute his three wins over Pascal,Taylor and Dirrell (if you agree he won or not,its still a win) are better than anything Bute has done imo.

    1.Ward
    2.Froch
    3.Bute
    That's how I would have it as well. I could even see the justification in putting Kessler ahead of Bute.
    Abrahams better than all of them IMO. Just a matter of time until he proves it. Bute is good but I think this is rings way of saying whoever wins super 6 is irrelevant cuz Bute is top dog.

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    Default Re: Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

    They did same with Pacquiao he beats number 3 Cotto and jumps straight over number 1 Mosley and number 2 Mayweather to become number 1 in the Welterweight division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    By the way it should be as follows.

    1. Andre Ward, no question he's number one, he beat the man he HAS to be top dog according to the Rings own ranking system

    2. Carl Froch, Ok his last win was lucky but he's beaten three excellent fighters in a row in Jean Pascal, Jermain Taylor and Andre Dirrell. Pascal is a current world champ, Taylor a former undisputed, can someone point me to all the current world champs Bute has beaten? I think 0.

    3. Lucian Bute, this is where he rightly belongs

    4. Mikkel Kessler, disappointing loss to Ward, hope he can bounce back.

    5. Artur Abraham, gatecrashed the division in style with his ko of Jermain Taylor last time out.
    Berrio is the only one i can think of that Bute has beat.
    He's beaten Kabary Salem the man who dropepd Joe Calzaghe heavily, Lucian Bute is the only one to have ever stopped him. Sakio Bika a fighter who gave Joe Calzaghe all he could handle.

    Lucian Bute also beat Sakio Bika easier than anyone else has. Lolenga Mock a fighter who dropped David Haye at Cruiserweight, Donny McCrary, Dingaan Thobela, Alejandro Berrio, William Joppy, Librado Andrade x2, Fulgencio Zuniga.

    He's beaten some solid opposition, not the greatest but thats not a bad list at all. Im not saying he deserves the number 1 spot, but he has some underrated wins.

    As for Bilbo hold on a minute, wern't you the one agreeing with me before that Lucian Bute did indeed beat the Librado Andrade legitmately ?

    This was posted by you Bilbo, i can't find your other comments. But i know you agreed with me, i think its just because people are jumping on the Lucian Bute bandwagon, like with Nonito Donaire that you don't like that fighters get overrated so quickly. But people like me have known about Lucian Bute for ages, i can show you a thread from ages ago before the Alejandro Berrio fight.

    Bilbo

    I agree with you pretty much Ice. It would have been a robbery just to wave Bute off and call of the fight after he had it completely in the bag like that.

    Andrade left his assualt too late imo. He should have got busy earlier and as for the long count, I guess if Andrade had been in the nuetral corner where he was supposed to be the ref wouldn't have sent him back there.

    It may have been a bit pedantic from the ref but you can clearly see how when he's giving Bute the count he catches sight of Andrade in his peripheral vision and tells him to go back.

    It may have been over the top but if he thought Andrade was making his way to the center of the ring he had to stop him.

    And it's easy for us to judge but in the heat of the moment it all happens so fast and the ref isn't a machine incapable of making mistakes.
    Last edited by ICB; 12-04-2009 at 10:31 AM.

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