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    Default Shannon Briggs chances for an upset

    How good of a chance does he have? I'm not certain, all he's fought since he came back were bums, and he's always been an underachiever. But he does have relatively good skills, for a heavyweight, and he's got a solid enough punch, and some speed, although at 270, or whatever he's weighing probably not as much as he should have. Can he get to Wlad and hurt him, maybe take him out early? Its possible but I doubt it, Wlad will probably stay on the outside, jab jab right, and tie up if Briggs gets close and probably stop him before the 8th.

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    Default Re: Shannon Briggs chances for an upset

    these guys seem to give him a decent chance..

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    Judging by his comments during the Ike Quartey/Vernon Forrest fight last Saturday, HBO color man Larry Merchant doesn't think much of Shannon Briggs’ chances against Wladimir Klitschko in their proposed showdown for the IBF Heavyweight Championship (scheduled for November 11 in New York City).



    Some of the top trainers in boxing say they disagree. A quick sampling of ten of the sport’s best reveals that most give Briggs a surprisingly good chance at springing the upset.



    Roger Bloodworth (David Tua, Robbie Peden, etc.)

    Which Briggs and which Klitschko? I’m not being facetious or political. I’m saying that since Klitschko got knocked out, he hasn’t shown a willingness to fight. He’s shown a propensity for boxing, which is smart on Emanuel’s part. He did a good job against Samuel Peter. If he’s able to keep Briggs on the outside, he’ll outbox him. But if he can’t, then Briggs has a good chance of knocking him out. I don’t think his chin is very good at all, although he said he was "drugged," (in his KO loss to Brewster). I think he didn’t realize how much leather he was taking that night. He overdosed on it (laughs).



    Eddie Mustapha Muhammad (Johnny Tapia, Iran Barkley, James Toney)

    Basically, Shannon is big and strong. Shannon would have to get his defense together, and he has a great trainer to get his defense together. What he has to do is put pressure on Klitschko, A LOT of pressure. Shannon can punch. He has to put his hands up, chin down and bang Klitschko to the body and on his arms and make him fight. Move his head side to side and keep that pressure on him. Dig to the body and arms and muscles. He can beat Klitschko. We all know he doesn’t have the biggest heart in the word. If you quit once, you’ll quit again. This is the fight game. There are no time outs. The key factor is Brownsville. Mike Tyson, Riddick Bowe, myself, and Shannon are all from Brownsville. And we all know how it feels to have something and then not have it anymore and want to get it back. We have an old saying from our neighborhood: somebody asks where you from, you say ‘Brownsville. Never ran, never will.’



    Stacy McKinley (Mike Tyson, Ricardo Mayorga)

    The way I see it, this is the first time in a long time you have two big men with so much similarity. They’re both big with good jabs and devastating right hands. As far as skills and tech, they’re equally matched. I think this particular fight will come down to the corners. The corners will win or lose the fight and I have to go with Emanuel Steward (Klitschko’s trainer) in that department. If Shannon wants it bad enough, he stands a good chance but like I said, it’ll probably come down to who has the better corner and I think Emanuel is one of the best.



    Floyd Mayweather Sr. (Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather Jr.)

    To be honest, I think Briggs got a very good chance, depending on what Briggs comes in. If Briggs comes in to fight the man; Klitschko is a scared fighter anyway. I don’t think either Klitschko brother takes a great punch. Briggs has a very good chance. The whole thing depends on which Shannon Briggs comes in. If he comes with heart and determination to win, those Klitschko guys will fold. I think he has a chance. I won’t say he’ll win, but there’s a good chance.



    Mathew Drayton (Jameel McCline)

    If Shannon comes in, in shape and don’t go trying to put on weight to be strong, I think he’ll do alright. He can punch. It’s going to be a good fight. The only thing Shannon has to do is go in, in shape. If he does, he can come out a winner. If he trains half-ass and is slow, Klitschko may take him out. Other than that, Shannon Briggs has a good chance of wining this fight, but he has to be in shape and have his weight right and take the right precautions.



    Miguel Diaz (Miguel Cotto, many others)

    It will be very interesting because Klitschko is one of the top heavyweights and the other kid is a little bit off boxing for a while, but he’s on a good streak. I saw him (Briggs) in Puerto Rico and he almost killed the guy. I saw him at the Warriors show recently and he looked like he’s in great spirits. It’s exactly what he needs; he’s an emotional fighter. I worked for him one time and it was the only time I went to the dressing room and the fighter was listening to classical music. Chopin! Right now he’s on a good streak and I think it will be interesting. He’s got a lot of ability and I understand he’s with good people now too. I think this is his last chance, so that’s why he’ll make the fight. Klitschko is a good fighter, but he’s nothing you can’t beat. You saw him fight against Samuel Peter, who knocked him down. He’s got his faults. He’s got a lot of ability too but he’s got his faults. It will be very interesting. I can’t predict who will win. It’s 50/50.



    Yoel Judah (Zab Judah)

    Shannon Briggs is a good fighter and he has come back with some good wins. You have to give the edge to Klitschko but these are heavyweights, man. One punch can end it. I think Briggs has a real chance to win. If he comes in with his hard right hand and a “do or die” attitude, he has the power, hand speed and experience to upset Klitschko. If he doesn’t come in with that kind of an attitude, Klitschko will take him out.



    Jimmy Glenn (worked with Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, etc.) If Briggs gets in good shape, he can win the fight. Briggs is a good fighter. I predict Briggs by knockout.



    Marshall Kauffman (Kermit Cintron, Julian Letterlough, Travis Kauffman)

    I like Klitschko. I think if Briggs has any chance, it’ll be early, in the first three rounds. After that, I could see Klitschko dominating. I think everybody that is a Klitschko fan will be on the edge of their seats for the first three rounds because Brigs is a heck of a puncher and very aggressive but his stamina has always been an issue. But for the first three to four rounds, you’ll be on the edge of your seats if you’re a Klitschko fan.



    Pat Burns (Jermain Taylor)

    It’s real simple. I’ve known Shannon for a long time and I’ve seen him at 330 lbs and at 240 lbs and if he’s 250-ish, he’s a very competitive tough, tough guy that is quite capable of winning. If he comes in heavy, he’ll be good for four rounds and that’s it. It’s all up to Shannon. He has an enormous amount of talent. It’s all about weight. If he’s not carrying a piano on his back, he’s competitive. If he is too heavy, he won’t be in a very good situation he wills struggle, that my feeling. I’ve always wanted to work with Shannon because you can just see he has all the gifts, but maybe the reason I never have is that I’m not one of the “yes” men he’s always surrounded himself with.




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    Default Re: Shannon Briggs chances for an upset

    ...people are believing the hype around Shannon Briggs, that's good.

    Good for boxing, good for Wladimir and good for the heavyweights

    I believe 100% that Wlad will bludgeon Shannon into submission within 8 rounds. Yes Shannon will come to fight for 4 rounds and he'll be scared much like McCline was, he'll connect but it won't do much damage as Wlad land his own big punches which will further tire out Shannon whose nervous energy will make him sluggish later on and finally after 4 knockdowns the ref will stop the fight in the begining of round 8

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    Default Re: Shannon Briggs chances for an upset

    Like I said I think Wlad will win but it could be interesting for a few rounds, it actually interests me about 5000 times more than the Byrd fight did, not because Briggs has earned a shot or has accomplished as much as Byrd, he hasn't, but because Byrd would never beat Wlad, its just a horrible fight for him and at least Briggs has some tools to use against Wlad, size and power.

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    Fuck Shannon Briggs...I hope that when Wlad knocks him down his lockes flop around like the fwockin Predator after Ah-nold dropped his ass.
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    Default Re: Shannon Briggs chances for an upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    ...people are believing the hype around Shannon Briggs, that's good.

    Good for boxing, good for Wladimir and good for the heavyweights

    I believe 100% that Wlad will bludgeon Shannon into submission within 8 rounds. Yes Shannon will come to fight for 4 rounds and he'll be scared much like McCline was, he'll connect but it won't do much damage as Wlad land his own big punches which will further tire out Shannon whose nervous energy will make him sluggish later on and finally after 4 knockdowns the ref will stop the fight in the begining of round 8
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    Default Re: Shannon Briggs chances for an upset

    Shannon Briggs deserves a shot at the title...well more than Kevin McBride, Owen Beck, or Oleg Maskaev anyway. Wladimir will come into MSG in tip-top condition. The only way you can beat klitschko is by timing; Corrie Sanders proved it. But Briggs is big and old. Briggs is going to try and strongarm him, but Klitschko's gonna dance around him like he did Peter. I suspect a bloodied 8th round TKO with at least three knockdowns. He's already the most called out heavyweight. Rahman wants him. Peter wants a rematch too. Toney's holding out because he knows that will be his last fight. It's Klitschko's era.

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    Default Re: Shannon Briggs chances for an upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    ...people are believing the hype around Shannon Briggs, that's good.

    Good for boxing, good for Wladimir and good for the heavyweights

    I believe 100% that Wlad will bludgeon Shannon into submission within 8 rounds. Yes Shannon will come to fight for 4 rounds and he'll be scared much like McCline was, he'll connect but it won't do much damage as Wlad land his own big punches which will further tire out Shannon whose nervous energy will make him sluggish later on and finally after 4 knockdowns the ref will stop the fight in the begining of round 8

    Well thats some serious prediction...
    But I have to agree with some of the trainers above:
    if Briggs comes to the fight in the same shape he was in his last fight(Chris Koval)
    he might indeed be dangerous to Wlad for the first three or four rounds...,after that
    Wladdy will kick his a**...
    if Briggs looses some weight and comes in well conditioned he might even be dangerous
    the whole fight through...
    at least Briggs got the famous puncher chance(which nearly everybody has,fighting Wlad)...

    So if Miguel Diaz (Miguel Cotto, many others) says "I can’t predict who will win. It’s 50/50.",
    he isn't so far off...

    But I really hope you are right...




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    Default Re: Shannon Briggs chances for an upset

    In the early 90's I was big time high on Briggs, but March 15 1996, has not go down in my mind as the night Tua flattened Ruiz in 19 seconds, instead it went down as the final night I ever brought into hype... as Briggs was beaten by Darroll Wilson and blamed the cold weather...

    That defeat along with the theory that Bruno would win the Tyson rematch made me a laughing stock at work that year.

    I saved myself by putting on £20 at 24/1 on Holyfield beating Tyson, and because of all this, I never brought into Mosley as an unbeatable fighter, although I lost £50 on the de la Hoya (fight 1) and £20 on the Diaz fight before winning £180 on a £20 bet at 9/1 on Forrest to win the first Mosley fight...

    What I am saying is Shannon is a deeply flawed fighter, much more than Wlad; Wlad walks this... trust me; you can bet on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BK
    ... as Briggs was beaten by Darroll Wilson and blamed the cold wheather...

    I didn't see this fight,but blaming the cold weather ...

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    Default Re: Shannon Briggs chances for an upset

    Briggs is a douche bag of the highest extent.

    He's even said that his fame ruined his boxing career...that he let his acting take over.

    Holy shat...has anyone seen his acting? Hillarious. He couldn't even portray a proper bad ass in the Transporter 2.

    He ittttttttttth thoooooooooooooo gay.
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    Default Re: Shannon Briggs chances for an upset

    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Briggs is a douche bag of the highest extent.

    He's even said that his fame ruined his boxing career...that he let his acting take over.

    Holy shat...has anyone seen his acting? Hillarious. He couldn't even portray a proper bad a** in the Transporter 2.

    He ittttttttttth thoooooooooooooo gay.
    I say we have a hollywood celebrity showdown. The great Antonio Tarver can take on the great Shannon Briggs. It should be a huge draw given the celebrity status of both guys. They are both movie stars.....
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    Default Re: Shannon Briggs chances for an upset

    Shannon Briggs is our version of Danny Williams.

    If Shannon comes in at 235 I'll pick him to win, anything over and Wladimer will win.

    It also depends on if the ref is going to let Wladimer deliberately grab on the inside before Briggs even gets there and then shoves him out and hits him with a right hand

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    Well Shannon has shown huge power over some MORE than questionable fighters....Abraham Okine anyone?

    The thing is that even if Shannon has shown big power recently he hasn't shown it vs anyone who could hurt him back and that my friends is the reason Wlad comes in with more confidence and the overweight Briggs gets gunshy and his nervous energy drains him quickly....but he'll take a beating for a long time.

    This fight will really be over before it is stopped, Briggs will be whooped up on round after round and just as Wlad really opens up on him the ref stops it mercifully (after multiple knockdowns)



    If Briggs comes in at 235! HAHAHA Might as well say "If Briggs makes his way down to the ring in a hot air balloon"

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    Default Re: Shannon Briggs chances for an upset

    Don't start with the fucking holding again Starr inspite of that Wlad is still

    1) More effective than any other heavyweight

    2) More fun to watch than most any other heavyweight

    3) KO's more of his opponents than any other heavyweight

    4) Fights the toughest fighters he can get

    5) and is more technically skilled than any other heavyweight out there today

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