Margarito-Williams in 2007!

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Tony better prepare 100% for this one,want him to really put an ass whooping on Williams! Also,there goes the "Margarito is ducking Williams" line which quite a few psters have used...you know who you are

WICKED! for the news Gamo....Im a big fan of this Kid Williams.....Hope he can pull it out, he is very talented and arkward!

Looks like a dead cert, lets hope they both come and make this one like Hagler v Hearns II! (even though in his last fight williams looked more like peter crouch than the great Hearns )

Originally Posted by cockey cockney

WICKED! for the news Gamo....Im a big fan of this Kid Williams.....Hope he can pull it out, he is very talented and arkward!

Clicked back my brithermyou don't know HOW bad I want Williams to get KTFO!!! Not because I dislike Williams,he has a great style but because alot of peeps have been saying Tony was ducking him OR this and that etc etc. Margarito better train fooking properly for this fight!

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Looks like a dead cert, lets hope they both come and make this one like Hagler v Hearns II! (even though in his last fight williams looked more like peter crouch than the great Hearns )

LMAO,to be honest neither fighter looked good in their last fight but Margarito's was against RING mag number 8,I think whereas Willaism was against Santos Pakua?(Man,my fave ref Cortez let me down in that fight,he should have stopped it WAY earlier!)

I can't imagine what punch stats will be like but like I said,I favour Tony's workrate,experience and (usually although not last night)tighter defence.

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Originally Posted by cockey cockney

WICKED! for the news Gamo....Im a big fan of this Kid Williams.....Hope he can pull it out, he is very talented and arkward!

Clicked back my brithermyou don't know HOW bad I want Williams to get KTFO!!! Not because I dislike Williams,he has a great style but because alot of peeps have been saying Tony was ducking him OR this and that etc etc. Margarito better train fooking properly for this fight!

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Looks like a dead cert, lets hope they both come and make this one like Hagler v Hearns II! (even though in his last fight williams looked more like peter crouch than the great Hearns )

LMAO,to be honest neither fighter looked good in their last fight but Margarito's was against RING mag number 8,I think whereas Willaism was against Santos Pakua?(Man,my fave ref Cortez let me down in that fight,he should have stopped it WAY earlier!)

I can't imagine what punch stats will be like but like I said,I favour Tony's workrate,experience and (usually although not last night)tighter defence.

Hey El Gamo, I'm sharing your desire to see Williams destroyed. Personally I think Margarito will just walk through and brutalise him, probably a knockout within 8 rounds.

Williams is huge but he looks almost skeletal and don't think their is much strength in him at all. His last two fights have been against two tiny welters in Mitchell and that other nameless bum who took him on at 24 hours notice.

He won't have nearly as much of a height and reach advantage against Margarito. Williams is awkward and throws a lot of punches per round, trouble is there isn't really any power behind them.

Margarito throws just as many punches, has proven stamina, a proven chin and hits way harder.

I personally think this fight will be short and very painful for Williams.

Originally Posted by bilbo

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Originally Posted by cockey cockney

WICKED! for the news Gamo....Im a big fan of this Kid Williams.....Hope he can pull it out, he is very talented and arkward!

Clicked back my brithermyou don't know HOW bad I want Williams to get KTFO!!! Not because I dislike Williams,he has a great style but because alot of peeps have been saying Tony was ducking him OR this and that etc etc. Margarito better train fooking properly for this fight!

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Looks like a dead cert, lets hope they both come and make this one like Hagler v Hearns II! (even though in his last fight williams looked more like peter crouch than the great Hearns )

LMAO,to be honest neither fighter looked good in their last fight but Margarito's was against RING mag number 8,I think whereas Willaism was against Santos Pakua?(Man,my fave ref Cortez let me down in that fight,he should have stopped it WAY earlier!)

I can't imagine what punch stats will be like but like I said,I favour Tony's workrate,experience and (usually although not last night)tighter defence.

Hey El Gamo, I'm sharing your desire to see Williams destroyed. Personally I think Margarito will just walk through and brutalise him, probably a knockout within 8 rounds.

Williams is huge but he looks almost skeletal and don't think their is much strength in him at all. His last two fights have been against two tiny welters in Mitchell and that other nameless bum who took him on at 24 hours notice.

He won't have nearly as much of a height and reach advantage against Margarito. Williams is awkward and throws a lot of punches per round, trouble is there isn't really any power behind them.

Margarito throws just as many punches, has proven stamina, a proven chin and hits way harder.

I personally think this fight will be short and very painful for Williams.

WOW,what the heck is going on? I thought you hated Tony,now after his worst performance,you're starting to like him? Welcome to the bandwagon bro! I'm guessing you saw more of Margarito and saw,at his best,how destructive he can be?

I think you are right you know,I think have now seen 6 Williams fights and I think Tony hits harder,is tighter defensively and can adjust better than Williams,be more selective with his output...Williams uses a good jab,pretty fast but not much power in thise shots and he is WIIIIIIIDE open all night long. I want to see Tony prepare 1000% for this fight,no excuses,and if he is prepared,I think he'll win. I don't know about the 8th round ko but if little shot Shrmba can get inside and shift Williams a few times,I'd fancy Tony to do the same and IF Tony does win,he SURELY deserves a big shot then


Why don't you like Williams bro?He is a good fighter but the fans/pbf nuthuggers and Williams mouth have put me off him plus commentators comparing him to Tommy Hearns,apart from height and reach,they don't have much in comparison!!!

kudos to margarito for FINALLY stepping up to real fighters.

imo, paul williams is still a prospect, BUT he is a whole different level of prospect than somebody like kermit cintron.

i said that i would give toney respect if clottey (who i had never seen in the past, and i admitted it) came out and impressed me and margarito still got the w. obviously he did, but i wasnt considering that scenario (clottey breaking his hand) i have more respect for margarito (he would have lost his ass had clottey not busted his hand) than i did prior to the fight, but this is the fight where i will eat my words. if he beats williams i will think that he truely is one of the best welterweights out there because i think that paul williams may be boxings answer to lebron james.



btw........................ can anybody tell me who trains williams?? cause i seriously dont know

Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

kudos to margarito for FINALLY stepping up to real fighters.

imo, paul williams is still a prospect, BUT he is a whole different level of prospect than somebody like kermit cintron.

i said that i would give toney respect if clottey (who i had never seen in the past, and i admitted it) came out and impressed me and margarito still got the w. obviously he did, but i wasnt considering that scenario (clottey breaking his hand) i have more respect for margarito (he would have lost his ass had clottey not busted his hand) than i did prior to the fight, but this is the fight where i will eat my words. if he beats williams i will think that he truely is one of the best welterweights out there because i think that paul williams may be boxings answer to lebron james.



btw........................ can anybody tell me who trains williams?? cause i seriously dont know

Finally stepping up to real fighters.......................................... ...........................Cintron AND CLottey are both better than Baldo,did you even see Cintron's last fight? Anyway,if he beats Williams,I guess you'll just fond someone else to try to rally and cheer against Tony He is trained by......1 sec...Mr.George Peterson

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

kudos to margarito for FINALLY stepping up to real fighters.

imo, paul williams is still a prospect, BUT he is a whole different level of prospect than somebody like kermit cintron.

i said that i would give toney respect if clottey (who i had never seen in the past, and i admitted it) came out and impressed me and margarito still got the w. obviously he did, but i wasnt considering that scenario (clottey breaking his hand) i have more respect for margarito (he would have lost his a** had clottey not busted his hand) than i did prior to the fight, but this is the fight where i will eat my words. if he beats williams i will think that he truely is one of the best welterweights out there because i think that paul williams may be boxings answer to lebron james.



btw........................ can anybody tell me who trains williams?? cause i seriously dont know

Finally stepping up to real fighters.......................................... ...........................Cintron AND CLottey are both better than Baldo,did you even see Cintron's last fight? Anyway,if he beats Williams,I guess you'll just fond someone else to try to rally and cheer against Tony He is trained by......1 sec...Mr.George Peterson

clottey may beat baldomir in a rematch (barring another dq or breaking a hand) but baldo beats the cintron that margarito fought (coming off a peroid of inactivity and hand surgery) all day long and twice on sundays


cc for the trainer answer, is he any good? any fighters peterson ever brought up/trained worth mentioning? im curious because i look at paul and think that hes a guy that if he had a world class trainer (steward or roach or somebody else of that caliber) to iron out the couple big wrinkles in his fight game, he would be damn near unbeatable.......................... including mayweather



but again, thats AFTER a year or two with a world class trainer............ which really is nothing more than speculation on my part at this point

Not falling for it. Same thing happened with Margarito vs Cintron. he struggled against Lujan and people thought Cintron would unseat him but Cintron wasn't ready just like Williams isn't ready. Margarito is going to win and they will say "He beat another prospect" and then he'll go back to calling out Mayweather and them. I for one won't fall for this whole scenario over again.

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Originally Posted by cockey cockney

WICKED! for the news Gamo....Im a big fan of this Kid Williams.....Hope he can pull it out, he is very talented and arkward!

Clicked back my brithermyou don't know HOW bad I want Williams to get KTFO!!! Not because I dislike Williams,he has a great style but because alot of peeps have been saying Tony was ducking him OR this and that etc etc. Margarito better train fooking properly for this fight!

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Looks like a dead cert, lets hope they both come and make this one like Hagler v Hearns II! (even though in his last fight williams looked more like peter crouch than the great Hearns )

LMAO,to be honest neither fighter looked good in their last fight but Margarito's was against RING mag number 8,I think whereas Willaism was against Santos Pakua?(Man,my fave ref Cortez let me down in that fight,he should have stopped it WAY earlier!)

I can't imagine what punch stats will be like but like I said,I favour Tony's workrate,experience and (usually although not last night)tighter defence.

Fair game.... But Williams fought as much in 2 months than Tony Did in 2 years...... Yep shame on Cortez and Pakua's corner encourageing him to get his ass handed to him

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

kudos to margarito for FINALLY stepping up to real fighters.

imo, paul williams is still a prospect, BUT he is a whole different level of prospect than somebody like kermit cintron.

i said that i would give toney respect if clottey (who i had never seen in the past, and i admitted it) came out and impressed me and margarito still got the w. obviously he did, but i wasnt considering that scenario (clottey breaking his hand) i have more respect for margarito (he would have lost his a** had clottey not busted his hand) than i did prior to the fight, but this is the fight where i will eat my words. if he beats williams i will think that he truely is one of the best welterweights out there because i think that paul williams may be boxings answer to lebron james.



btw........................ can anybody tell me who trains williams?? cause i seriously dont know

Finally stepping up to real fighters.......................................... ...........................Cintron AND CLottey are both better than Baldo,did you even see Cintron's last fight? Anyway,if he beats Williams,I guess you'll just fond someone else to try to rally and cheer against Tony He is trained by......1 sec...Mr.George Peterson

dont worry.............. ive got zab judah waiting to step into that role for me

This is gonna be a great fight. I was choosing Williams, but based off of his comments on Boxingtalk today, I think it's more a pick'em fight. Since Paul says he's gonna stand in the middle with Tony. It's gonna come down to who throws more punches and who's stamina is better. Tony is defficient in the defense department and so is Williams. It's just gonna a punchfest. IMO, Paul looks similar to Tony, a big welterweight who throws a lot of punches but leaves himself open too often. The only difference is that Williams at times uses his reach and height advantage and doesn't get close if he doesn't need to.

Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Tony better prepare 100% for this one,want him to really put an ass whooping on Williams! Also,there goes the "Margarito is ducking Williams" line which quite a few psters have used...you know who you are

Nah, c'mon Gamo. I never thought he was "ducking" Williams, but he was definitely going to pass up on ever fighting that fight in order to try to get a bigger reward/risk-ratio fight. He knew that his sub-par performance against Clottey didn't impress anyone and ruined his chances of scoring a big fight with someone like Mosely, so he finally had to resign himself to fighting Williams instead. You could see it in his post-fight interview. After months of "well, we don't really want to waste our time with this prospect, we want the big fights, and if we have to give up the belt, that's too bad but I guess it has to happen," in the post-fight interview he didn't even pause before saying "well, if he's the mandatory then I guess we have to fight him." So I don't think it proves he has balls (which I don't doubt he does, but I'm just saying)--it just proves that he realizes he looked bad and he's narrowed his options as a result.

I'm happy to see this fight happening. We get to see if Williams is for real. We'll see how he rates against a tough customer in Margarito.
I doubt Margo walks through Williams, the kid can swat. But then again will he be able to stand up to the pressure Margo will put on him, over the course of a fight.

Should be a real barnburner.