Someone Please Educate Me about Steve Collins

[JT Rock]

Looking at Steve Collins record it looked impressive with wins over Benn and Eubank albeit not in there primes but 2 greats

around that time I was very busy and couldnt follow boxing as closely as I did previously or as I do now.. but 3 losses all early on and retireing with a good string of victories, did he have a career ending injury? or did he walk away on his own? or was he at the right place and right time?

Thanks

[ICB]

Looking at Steve Collins record it looked impressive with wins over Benn and Eubank albeit not in there primes but 2 greats

around that time I was very busy and couldnt follow boxing as closely as I did previously or as I do now.. but 3 losses all early on and retireing with a good string of victories, did he have a career ending injury? or did he walk away on his own? or was he at the right place and right time?

Thanks

He had detached retina which forced him to retire some say he was at right place at right time but i think Eubank victory's was impressive but i don't think Benn victory's were because Benn in first meeting twisted his ankle and had to quit fight plus he was shell of his former self after that brutal war with Gerald.

[Trainer Monkey]

He came close to fighting Joe,and then collapsed in training,he was told to pack it in

[ross]

He didnt just collapse, Howard Eastman helped him to the deck.

Take alook at Eubanks record leading up to the Collins fight and you can see why he fought a little jaded http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000804

[ross]

Also I wish I had the clip of Collins sagging on the ropes on his arse, only for Chris to stand off and let him back in to it and Craig Cummings who Prince Badi Adjamu just beat put Collins on his arse in the first, that was Collins last fight before he pulled out at short notice of a defence against Calzaghe that Eubank stood in at a weeks notice, only to have to lose 20lbs in 7 days !!

[Trainer Monkey]

He wanted Jones,had been promised Jones,at the last second they make him take Joe,Doctors told him to continue might kill him
Two great quotes
On Jones
"Id fight him in a phone booth in front of two men and a dog"
On Calzeghe
"Joe is a good up-and-coming kid, but he wouldn't fill a parish church".

[GAME]

He was fit to fight vs Joe he didnt have a detatched retina or collapse he just pulled out cuz he says his heart wasnt in it. Then he considered a comeback and that was when he collapsed.

He was a good fighter but got Benn and Eubank at the right time

[CutMeMick]

Well, 'The Celtic Warrior' was just that a warrior. He always fought his heart out never leaving anything for the next fight.

In his fight against McCallum he was just outclassed he only had 16 fights at the time but even then he showed he belonged in the ring.
In his fights against Johnson it was a gutsy performance & the Kalambay fight I've never seen so I can't comment on that.
When he faced Pyatt for the WBO belt, Pyatt was working on his 4th defense of the title and AGAIN Collins entered as the underdog to a title fight as he already had against McCallum & Johnson. He dismantled Pyatt and captured the title I read an article on that fight were it was said that Collins was lucky that night. I don't think so he fought well and did his job.
The 1st tear up with Eubank was just great, he showed heart and determination. the 2nd was a coin toss in the end I think they got the righ winner.
The Benn fights were gimmies I mean ODLH fought JCC, Holmes fought Ali it happens, it's part of the sport. He performed at top class in those 2 figthts and settled in there.
I still wish he and Liles would have met around '96....

Anyway!!!
A lot of people don't know much about Collins since he isn't as celebrated as other SMW but IMO he has been the best SMW of times....
He was in the movie Lock Stock and two smoking barrels for a couple seconds he was the bouncer of a club.
He was also in a U2 music video I forget the name of the song he also just comes out for a few seconds....

Let me check YouTube see if I can find it.

[CutMeMick]

Heres the U2 video (Collins is in the green shirt )
[youtube=425,350]gHbxq9gGe6I[/youtube]


Heres a short film on Steve Collins.
[youtube=425,350]u0EBzBsrstk[/youtube]

[Scrap]

He was there at the right time, like everybody else is and made the most of it. If you went to see Steve fight you were gauranteid a fight, good value, top Lad.

[BoomBoom]

CC Mick for the creepy music video

[WWatt]

He pretended he was hypnotised
- prolly the most famous sports prank of all-time! Really fucked Chris's head up

[CutMeMick]

CC Mick for the creepy music video

#160s on me Boom Boom....
Yeah! that Bono for you always different.

[WWatt]

He pretended he was hypnotised
- prolly the most famous sports prank of all-time! Really fucked Chris's head up

Mind you, nobody had ever heard of Collins before that debacle.

[althetruthhindley]

Steve Collins is a classic example of a good honest strong contender, in an ideal boxing world would never have been a WORLD champion.
Honest pro but not a great.
Eubank and Benn both past sellby dates.
Pyatt was a joke , Craig Cummings etc HEY HE WAS PROMOTED BY FRANK WARREN !!! THAT EXPLANES THE CRAPPY WORLD TITLE OPONANTS = HAS BEENS AND SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN THERE !!!!!!!!!