So Close To Glory,So Far Away

[Trainer Monkey]

Ron Lyle-talk about the wrong place,the wrong time
Angel Manfreddy-if only he'd had 2 inches more reach
Bobby Czyz-to big to be a light heavy,not quite big enough to be a heavy
Terry Norris-ruled a weak division for a long time,but the damndest people would find a way to beat him,like Simon Brown and Luis Santana

[CutMeMick]

Norris was a menace, mental issues but a menace that's for sure.
It's just too bad he really had no other mega star names around to show his skills against them.

For the record I've metioned this before I think ODLH beats Norris.

Everytime I think of Norris for some reason the 1st image that comes to mind is when hes running around the ring after knocking down Mugabi.

[Trainer Monkey]

I was going to put Mancini on that list,but in all honest,he only had 1 loss before the Kim,to Arguello(no sin there) and he was never the same after that fight.
Even though he did hold on to the title for 2 more defenses
I cant really penalise the guy,who knows how anyone would react to that abortion of a fight,and the backlash that followed
But another one to add Buddy McGirt,2 times champion who unfortunatly fought in the era of Sweet Pea

[CutMeMick]

What about Meldrick T?
Jose L. Lopez who IMO had it all when he was coming up through the rankings. He IMO had the tools to beat ODLH, Tito and Quartey (Which I have to see that Quartey fight again cause I think I had Jose wining it the 1st time I saw) From The 4 Horsemen I think he was it it's just too bad that bad management and problems outside the ring completely threw everything off.

[The Rookie Fan]

There is one that comes to my mind as I read this....Oba Carr

Solid undefeated fighter and gets his first title shot against the IBF WW champ....who just happend to be Felix Trinidad.

Wins 6 - 7 fights in a row, gets another crack at a world title against the WBA champ.....Who just happend to be Ike Quartey

Hit another big win streak looks like he might make it this time against the WBC champ.....who just happend to be Oscar de la Hoya

Tough break

[CutMeMick]

There is one that comes to my mind as I read this....Oba Carr

Solid undefeated fighter and gets his first title shot against the IBF WW champ....who just happend to be Felix Trinidad.

Wins 6 - 7 fights in a row, gets another crack at a world title against the WBA champ.....Who just happend to be Ike Quartey

Hit another big win streak looks like he might make it this time against the WBC champ.....who just happend to be Oscar de la Hoya

Tough break

Those were the 4 Horsemen back then as I posted above it's just too bad we never actually got to see the best of 'Maestrito' Lopez.

[The Rookie Fan]

There is one that comes to my mind as I read this....Oba Carr

Solid undefeated fighter and gets his first title shot against the IBF WW champ....who just happend to be Felix Trinidad.

Wins 6 - 7 fights in a row, gets another crack at a world title against the WBA champ.....Who just happend to be Ike Quartey

Hit another big win streak looks like he might make it this time against the WBC champ.....who just happend to be Oscar de la Hoya

Tough break

Those were the 4 Horsemen back then as I posted above it's just too bad we never actually got to see the best of 'Maestrito' Lopez.

Looking back, it really is amazing that we didn't see more fight between these guys. There was potential for great matches and re-matches. Quartey - DLH 2, Tito - DLH 2, heck maybe 3. Tito - Quartey would have been great. And just imagine if Tito and Quartey had not moved up in weight by the time Mosley got there....

But I guess thats the way it goes. Nobody is interested in a fighter once he looses. Look at how many people have already dug Margarito's grave after a very competitive fight.

[Trainer Monkey]

Tim Witherspoon-2 time champ,in the era of Tyson and Holmes,Don King completely screwed this guy
Andrew Golata-came within a few rounds of doing the unthinkable,not only beating Bowe,but mauling him,and he shoots himself in the foot both time

[CutMeMick]

There is one that comes to my mind as I read this....Oba Carr

Solid undefeated fighter and gets his first title shot against the IBF WW champ....who just happend to be Felix Trinidad.

Wins 6 - 7 fights in a row, gets another crack at a world title against the WBA champ.....Who just happend to be Ike Quartey

Hit another big win streak looks like he might make it this time against the WBC champ.....who just happend to be Oscar de la Hoya

Tough break

Those were the 4 Horsemen back then as I posted above it's just too bad we never actually got to see the best of 'Maestrito' Lopez.

Looking back, it really is amazing that we didn't see more fight between these guys. There was potential for great matches and re-matches. Quartey - DLH 2, Tito - DLH 2, heck maybe 3. Tito - Quartey would have been great. And just imagine if Tito and Quartey had not moved up in weight by the time Mosley got there....

But I guess thats the way it goes. Nobody is interested in a fighter once he looses. Look at how many people have already dug Margarito's grave after a very competitive fight.

Tito vs. Quartey will forever go down as one of the major fights that never happened. along the lines of Sanchez vs. Arguello.

[Violent Demise]

Ron Lyle-talk about the wrong place,the wrong time
Angel Manfreddy-if only he'd had 2 inches more reach
Bobby Czyz-to big to be a light heavy,not quite big enough to be a heavy
Terry Norris-ruled a weak division for a long time,but the damndest people would find a way to beat him,like Simon Brown and Luis Santana

I don't see why you would include Norris. The man is in the Hall Of Fame.

[Trainer Monkey]

Ron Lyle-talk about the wrong place,the wrong time
Angel Manfreddy-if only he'd had 2 inches more reach
Bobby Czyz-to big to be a light heavy,not quite big enough to be a heavy
Terry Norris-ruled a weak division for a long time,but the damndest people would find a way to beat him,like Simon Brown and Luis Santana

I don't see why you would include Norris. The man is in the Hall Of Fame.

I do believe I included an explanation
Hell most people dont remember him
Think about the guys people remember,and will remember for ever
Robinson,Leanord,Ali,Holmes,Louis,Johnson,Duran,Ar quello,etc,etc,etc
Norris aint on that list,more casual boxing fans know who Jerry Quarry is

[ICB]

Meldrick Taylor
Razor Ruddock
Herol Graham just to name a few.

[Trainer Monkey]

Meldrick Taylor
Razor Ruddock
Herol Graham just to name a few.

Razor is a perfect one

[woodzo]

when i saw the thread title the 1st name that came in my head was a brit boxer called Michael broadie, he might have won the domestic,commonwealth & euro belts but he must of been the unluckiest fighter in world title fights ever, got robbed against willie john then in his next title fight if i remember right against injin chi he got 1 point wrongfully deducted then there was confusion with the scorecards on of the judges mis calculated & got the score wrong after that it ended up a draw, (classic fight it could of gone either way but i though broadie was a round up) got pasted in the rematch & got ko'd near the middle of the fight, then after the two wars with injin chi had took his toll he fought scott harrison for the title, but ko'd by a body shot (he was a bit shot by then)

quality little fighter just didn't quite happen for him

[Fenster]

when i saw the thread title the 1st name that came in my head was a brit boxer called Michael broadie, he might have won the domestic,commonwealth & euro belts but he must of been the unluckiest fighter in world title fights ever, got robbed against willie john then in his next title fight if i remember right against injin chi he got 1 point wrongfully deducted then there was confusion with the scorecards on of the judges mis calculated & got the score wrong after that it ended up a draw, (classic fight it could of gone either way but i though broadie was a round up) got pasted in the rematch & got ko'd near the middle of the fight, then after the two wars with injin chi had took his toll he fought scott harrison for the title, but ko'd by a body shot (he was a bit shot by then)

quality little fighter just didn't quite happen for him

Yeah Brodie getting robbed in his own backyard was a sickener.. bet he loves it when people waffle on about bullshit hometown decisions

Chi-Brodie was a brilliant fight. I reckon Chi was the one a bit hardone by though considering he was declared the winner, in the ring, only to be told draw backstage. Certainly put it right in the return though.