What's the best way to go about beating Floyd Mayweather.

[leftylee]

What should be the best gameplan to try and beat Floyd ??. I've been watching a number of his fights and am so impressed with him even if I hate his attitude but I can't really complain as he backs it all up. After watching the Hatton v Floyd fight again, Floyd really was exceptional in my eyes and was wondering what do you guys on here think the perfect way to have the best chance, if not to be able to beat him. It seems in today's era he really is is unbeatable for Cotto, Williams, Margarito etc as he can adapt to all styles. what do you guys think

I think Paul Williams would give him trouble but there's still something telling me that Floyd would come through and that nobody out there can beat him, Am I right


Thanks for helping me out.

[Hulk]

I'd say take him down and submit him. Other than that I have no idea.

[Bookkeeper]

What should be the best gameplan to try and beat Floyd ??. I've been watching a number of his fights and am so impressed with him even if I hate his attitude but I can't really complain as he backs it all up. After watching the Hatton v Floyd fight again, Floyd really was exceptional in my eyes and was wondering what do you guys on here think the perfect way to have the best chance, if not to be able to beat him. It seems in today's era he really is is unbeatable for Cotto, Williams, Margarito etc as he can adapt to all styles. what do you guys think

I think Paul Williams would give him trouble but there's still something telling me that Floyd would come through and that nobody out there can beat him, Am I right

Another question how does Floyd compare to the all time greats as he always says he's the best etc so what do you think of that

Thanks for helping me out.

CC lefty and good post. I don't like the guy's attitude either but he can fight his ass off. We are going to have to get somebody with great punching power to hit him with a flush shot and hurt him bad, or you can use the Vernon Forrest technique and headbutt yourself to a victory

[leftylee]

What should be the best gameplan to try and beat Floyd ??. I've been watching a number of his fights and am so impressed with him even if I hate his attitude but I can't really complain as he backs it all up. After watching the Hatton v Floyd fight again, Floyd really was exceptional in my eyes and was wondering what do you guys on here think the perfect way to have the best chance, if not to be able to beat him. It seems in today's era he really is is unbeatable for Cotto, Williams, Margarito etc as he can adapt to all styles. what do you guys think

I think Paul Williams would give him trouble but there's still something telling me that Floyd would come through and that nobody out there can beat him, Am I right

Another question how does Floyd compare to the all time greats as he always says he's the best etc so what do you think of that

Thanks for helping me out.

CC lefty and good post. I don't like the guy's attitude either but he can fight his a** off. We are going to have to get somebody with great punching power to hit him with a flush shot and hurt him bad, or you can use the Vernon Forrest technique and headbutt yourself to a victory

LOL returned bro it's just been on my mind lately the way in which to get past him and I can't think of any but that is one what you said catch him with a flush shot and get him hurt and then go for the attack.

[Mar]

Wait till he gets old. Other than that i'm not sure, so many things have been tried and he's seen so many different type of opponets with different styles and in different weight classes...i think paul williams would have the best shot. His constant punching and the way he fights tall would give floyd problems till about the 5th or 6th round when floyd adapts like he always does, at that point a ringpost would be in williams future.

[ICB]

There is no one way of beating Floyd Mayweather Jr, because he adapts to any 1 style too quickly. A good jab is needed but you would need to triple and double the jab not throw one jab at a time. Because Mayweather can counter with a right hand over the top of your jab when your throw it only one at a time. You need to go to the body constantly forget the head shots because your be looking all night and never land a clean hard punch on Mayweather's chin. The body never moves so focus mostly your attack to the body something Castillo done very well in there 1st fight. Basically you need to have a good jab, be fast enough to be able to be somewhat competitive in exchanges with Mayweather. And focus mostly your attack to the body.

I think Paul Williams would do well against Mayweather, Williams uses angles on the inside and outside and he uses a great variety of punches to keep Mayweather guessing. Plus he has a decent jab and amazing work rate to keep Mayweather on the ropes, and also Williams hand speed is pretty good as well. The only problem i see is that Williams defense is very leaky and he would leave many countering opportunities for Mayweather.

[beerjelly]

Force him into the MMA fight he mentioned.

Or maybe use a bat, otherwise it aint happening.

[Landon]

A gun? Maybe he should have to fight Cotto and Paul Williams at the same time.

[The Fightfan]

I believe it's all about work.It's not the first,second or even third punches it's about fourth, fifth, and sixth.George Foreman said it best "Just keep throwing and you can hit him with four,five and six".You just have to be able to recieve something immediately in return.

[SigmaMu]

When Floyd fights some one dangerous like Cotto or Margarito, Floyd will lose. Why do you think Floyd does not want to fight any Welters? Why do you think Floyd was sucking Miguels stick after he fought Hatton? Why do you think Floyd cried after his bout against Baldomir? <--- Tony Margarito is the reason why Floyd cried. Why is Floyd now retired? Miguel Cotto is the reason why Floyd is retired.

I wont deny that Floyd is good. He is but some one ruthless like Cotto will own Floyd and beat Floyd up and down with elbows of his own. Floyd is beatable and so is Cotto for that matter and williams is too.

Phuk Floyd! She is retired. Let her rest in peace.

[LEGION]

Drop lots of valium in his water bottle.

[GRBOXINGFAN]

You know, I've been watching Floyd for 15 years(Actually maybe 20 years, I met him when he was a kid at Pride Gym, damn I'm old) and he is the smartest fighter i have even seen. He was put through some pretty hard things in that gym from what I hear. Being put in with guys several years older until he would cry. His weakness is his ego. He is a lightweight to junior welterweight and he has the skills to beat much bigger men which is truly rare in boxing. Oscar was too big for him IMO, it took all Floyds smarts and skill to win that fight, even though he won it handily IMO. If the right fighter challenges him at 154 or even 160 in a couple years, Floyd could lose. He is not that big, I know a lot of the world is looking at him at 147 and judging him, but watch him at 130, 135 or 140. Its a different fighter. The speed and skill at the lower weights are other worldly. At 130, Floyd rivaled Roy Jones athleticism, he was a freak of nature. Carrying the extra weight effected his speed in ever way. Physically the 147 pound Floyd we now see is not close to what he was. And his power at 130 was very good to great, where as at 147 it is average. He is winning fights now on defense and brains. Defensively, Floyd is among the best ever, but he gets hit way more at 140 and 147. He was untouchable at lighter weights. Fighters don't have much luck in dropping back down weights, so i doubt we'll see him go lower, but man wouldn't Floyd vs. Pacquiao or Diaz at 135 be interesting.

At 147 maybe Margarito can beat him, or possibly Oscar under the right circumstances. Williams, maybe in a couple years. Margarito could come into a fight night feasably weighing 165 lbs. Cotto is not bigger than Floyd and is not a real threat in my opinion. Floyd's jaw has been proven good at these higher weights so far, but you never know. Floyd has been hurt at 147 too, by Chop Chop and Judah notably. He can take a shot and still stay together.

Floyd's training regiment rivals any fighter's in history. He puts himself through things other fighters cannot imagine in preparing for fights. His training has put much more wear and tear on his body than his fights. This guy does things in the gym that most trainers would think to be suicide. The rumors are true, I have met guys who have helped Floyd train and he has in fact sparred 20, 25 and even 30 rounds against fresh opponents every few rounds. I have not seen Floyd look winded in a fight since Golden Gloves.

The Hatton win was a good one, but i've watched it 20-30 times now (yeah I am that much of a geek). My conclusion is that it wasn't that impressive of a win. No offense to anyone, but Hatton really looked like an amateur at times. His defense was non existent and he just kept walking right into punches. He also telegraphed his punches horribly and Floyd had him timed by the 3rd round. I like Hatton, and Floyd has made many a fighter look poor, but this was a mismatch and I don't consider it in Floyd's top 10 wins. Floyd did look more comfortable at this weight than in the past though, he showed improved foot speed and better hand speed although his head movement isn't what it was at the lower weights.

Floyd can lose. There is definitely someone who can beat him. Maybe at a higher weight class. I think, despite what you hear, he will fight several more times. He'll fight the best at 147 and then possibly take a chance and reach for someone who is just way too big and thats when he could lose. My bet is Floyd is crazy like a fox, he probably knows his limits even if he'd never admit to them in public. I would hope his ego wouldn't get the best of him and he'd take a fight with some huge middleweight or something like that. As a pure boxing fan, I wish he would've never made the jump in weight. We were seeing something at 130 ad 135 that we had never seen before, but as a Floyd fan, I'm glad he moved up so he could display his skills to a bigger audience even if they were diminished some.

[Myk_Myk]

I thought ODLH was beating him pretty handily before he abandoned his jab and started trying to rough him up. Of course as it's been stated PBF is good at adapting, so maybe he would've (or did) just adapt and force a change of game plan.

Attacking his body seems to be a logical tactic, but the problem is he's so fast on his feet. Plus, with his hand speed, he always manages to get his own shots in to the head.

[Greig]

There is no one way of beating Floyd Mayweather Jr, because he adapts to any 1 style too quickly. A good jab is needed but you would need to triple and double the jab not throw one jab at a time. Because Mayweather can counter with a right hand over the top of your jab when your throw it only one at a time. You need to go to the body constantly forget the head shots because your be looking all night and never land a clean hard punch on Mayweather's chin. The body never moves so focus mostly your attack to the body something Castillo done very well in there 1st fight. Basically you need to have a good jab, be fast enough to be able to be somewhat competitive in exchanges with Mayweather. And focus mostly your attack to the body.

I think Paul Williams would do well against Mayweather, Williams uses angles on the inside and outside and he uses a great variety of punches to keep Mayweather guessing. Plus he has a decent jab and amazing work rate to keep Mayweather on the ropes, and also Williams hand speed is pretty good as well. The only problem i see is that Williams defense is very leaky and he would leave many countering opportunities for Mayweather.

I don't think a body attack will be very effective Ice. Hatton is the best body puncher of his generation and he landed several shots that had no effect. And what you say about the body not moving - it's an old cliche that is generally true. But Floyd's feet are so fast that his body does move. He's out of range before you know it. Plus he's so clever with arms defensively on the inside that he's practically impossible to hit clean - either to head or the body.

Nobody is unbeatable, but he is as close to it as I've ever seen.

The only way to beat him is to be a shitload taller and jab him to death. I know he's adaptable but all the adapting in the world still finds it hard to get inside a world class jab and a big reach advantage.

Vernon Forrest said it best when he was fighting Mosley - to kill speed you just gotta have a helluva jab.

[ICB]

There is no one way of beating Floyd Mayweather Jr, because he adapts to any 1 style too quickly. A good jab is needed but you would need to triple and double the jab not throw one jab at a time. Because Mayweather can counter with a right hand over the top of your jab when your throw it only one at a time. You need to go to the body constantly forget the head shots because your be looking all night and never land a clean hard punch on Mayweather's chin. The body never moves so focus mostly your attack to the body something Castillo done very well in there 1st fight. Basically you need to have a good jab, be fast enough to be able to be somewhat competitive in exchanges with Mayweather. And focus mostly your attack to the body.

I think Paul Williams would do well against Mayweather, Williams uses angles on the inside and outside and he uses a great variety of punches to keep Mayweather guessing. Plus he has a decent jab and amazing work rate to keep Mayweather on the ropes, and also Williams hand speed is pretty good as well. The only problem i see is that Williams defense is very leaky and he would leave many countering opportunities for Mayweather.

I don't think a body attack will be very effective Ice. Hatton is the best body puncher of his generation and he landed several shots that had no effect. And what you say about the body not moving - it's an old cliche that is generally true. But Floyd's feet are so fast that his body does move. He's out of range before you know it. Plus he's so clever with arms defensively on the inside that he's practically impossible to hit clean - either to head or the body.

Nobody is unbeatable, but he is as close to it as I've ever seen.

The only way to beat him is to be a shitload taller and jab him to death. I know he's adaptable but all the adapting in the world still finds it hard to get inside a world class jab and a big reach advantage.

Vernon Forrest said it best when he was fighting Mosley - to kill speed you just gotta have a helluva jab.

Actually thats where your wrong, Hatton is a great body puncher but he didn't nearly go to the body enough in the Mayweather fight. That was one of his first mistakes.