James Kirkland vs Joel Julio & Victor Ortiz vs Vivian Harris on March 7th

Big punchers Joel Julio, James Kirkland to rumble March 7 - ESPN


I like the match up between Kirkland and Julio. Both are heavy hitters, and I think it will be a good test for Kirkland. I have to think on who I'll pick for this one. I like Kirkland, but Julio has some good experience, and I think will really show the holes in Kirklands defense.

I haven't seen enough of Victor Ortiz to make a good judgement on this one, but again, I think this will be a good test for him.

This one is indeed a toss-up. I saw Julio when he fought here in Detroit. He has an intensity about him. You just feel like you can't get away from him. Maybe I'm just thinking that because I was kinda sorta backing the underdog local guy. I like Kirkland and I bet he'll be on his A-game in training camp. I really wish they would get someone in camp who could teach him about pacing and defense, but I also get the feeling pacing would be in direct contradiction with how he's being trained. I hope I'm wrong, but I think Kirkland might be one of those guys who needs to lose to improve.

Wow, that's a nice boxing card!

Nice match up with Julio/Kirkland.Kirkland needs to do less weight lifting and get some head movement,Julio may not have turned out to be the sensation some thought he would be,but he is much deeper than Kirkland.Should be a collision.

Ortiz is going to do very bad things to a shot Harris,early and brutally.GBP certainly knows how to maneuver an up & comer.

Kirkland/Julio is going to be a war. It will be interesting to see if Kirkland chooses to go with his jab which has been Julio's undoing in both losses, I think if Kirkland elects to trade and go for excitement he's gonna get sparked.

Ortiz/Harris looks to be a passing of the torch fight, gonna be tough for Harris to put up a good showing. It begs the question though if Ortiz does win that would make Ortiz #1 and Williams #2 at 154 with a vacant ring title in the balance...................................

nice couple of fights there should be good viewing

Never seen any of kirklands opponents up until now but know joel julio quite well and this should definitely be tough going for kirkland.

Without getting shouted down in flames i just dont rate Ortiz as highly as he gets touted on here though vivian harris has been around the block and back and is surely just fighting for the money which assures victor a win.

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

nice couple of fights there should be good viewing

Never seen any of kirklands opponents up until now but know joel julio quite well and this should definitely be tough going for kirkland.

Without getting shouted down in flames i just dont rate Ortiz as highly as he gets touted on here though vivian harris has been around the block and back and is surely just fighting for the money which assures victor a win.

Here ya go Kirkland's strengths and weaknesses in one round.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP1ugoEW3kk

Originally Posted by killersheep

Ortiz/Harris looks to be a passing of the torch fight, gonna be tough for Harris to put up a good showing. It begs the question though if Ortiz does win that would make Ortiz #1 and Williams #2 at 154 with a vacant ring title in the balance...................................

Not possible, carnal. Ortiz fights at 140. Not 154.

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by killersheep

Ortiz/Harris looks to be a passing of the torch fight, gonna be tough for Harris to put up a good showing. It begs the question though if Ortiz does win that would make Ortiz #1 and Williams #2 at 154 with a vacant ring title in the balance...................................

Not possible, carnal. Ortiz fights at 140. Not 154.

I got my names fucked up again.

I'd take Kirkland over Julio but its a good fight!!!

I think Ortiz blows the shot Harris away!!!

Julio by early knock out in an exciting fight. Ortiz destroys the shot Harris in what is disgraceful mismatch. Ortiz should be fighting a fellow youngster like Marcos Maidana or Devon Alexander. Beating up Carlos Maussa scraps don't mean shiit.

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Julio by early knock out in an exciting fight. Ortiz destroys the shot Harris in what is disgraceful mismatch. Ortiz should be fighting a fellow youngster like Marcos Maidana or Devon Alexander. Beating up Carlos Maussa scraps don't mean shiit.

Especially when you've beat Carlos Maussa already. I'm shocked HBO is going to be cool with showing a Vivian Harris fight. A name that's all it is at this point, Ortiz should handle him easily.

Been thinking about these fights since the day it was posted here's what I have...

I only see this ending as a loss for Kirkland.
I think if he goes wild, he'll get caught by the more composed Julio.
I also think Julios got the skills to outbox Kirkland.


As for "Vicious" I think he sparks out Harris inside of 4 rounds.
I'll be honest I don't like the fact that he's sparking out his opponents so quickly. I'd like to see him get in there with someone durable like Josesito Lopez or Randall Bailey...

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Julio by early knock out in an exciting fight. Ortiz destroys the shot Harris in what is disgraceful mismatch. Ortiz should be fighting a fellow youngster like Marcos Maidana or Devon Alexander. Beating up Carlos Maussa scraps don't mean shiit.

You do realize Dzinzurik outclassed Julio in Julio's last fight? I can't fight the footage .

Kirkland wins by late stoppage in a good fight and Ortiz destroys Harris.

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Julio by early knock out in an exciting fight. Ortiz destroys the shot Harris in what is disgraceful mismatch. Ortiz should be fighting a fellow youngster like Marcos Maidana or Devon Alexander. Beating up Carlos Maussa scraps don't mean shiit.

You do realize Dzinzurik outclassed Julio in Julio's last fight? I can't fight the footage .

Kirkland wins by late stoppage in a good fight and Ortiz destroys Harris.

If Kirkland can stop Julio that will be very impressive, I've never seen Joel even close to being hurt, his two losses we pretty one-sided and he was clearly outboxed, but he's had some bombs landed on him and I've never seen him fazed even in the slightest.