Just in: FLoyd loses round one against PAC in Negotiations

[JonesJrMayweather]

Pacquiao-Cotto outdraws Mayweather-Marquez at gate - USATODAY.com


Pac's fight drew a larger gate than Floyd's. Certainly Floyd will argue that it was because it was the two of them whereas HE only sold the Marquez fight.

[SRR]

Pacquiao-Cotto outdraws Mayweather-Marquez at gate - USATODAY.com


Pac's fight drew a larger gate than Floyd's. Certainly Floyd will argue that it was because it was the two of them whereas HE only sold the Marquez fight.

Indeed, he already put that argument forward in his interview with sky sports news the other day.

[eagle]

Its a fair argument too. PBF v JMM did way more sales than Pac v JMM. PBF v DLH did more than Pac v DLH and PBF v Hatton did more than Pac v Hatton. Hard for Pac's team to then argue Manny is the bigger PPV draw.

[fanjohn]

Not only round one. I expect Floyd to lose the next rounds of negotiations too.

[keypool]

So why didn't Floyd fight Cotto then after all these years?

Floyd has always been saying that he didn't fight Cotto/Mosley because they are not huge draws.

So now he finally admits that Cotto is a huge draw? So why did you duck him back then Floyd

[killersheep]

Jesus Christ these negotiations are gonna take forever. Wake me up when the ink dries. I don't really care which one makes more money, I want to see them fight.

[skel1983]

So why didn't Floyd fight Cotto then after all these years?

Floyd has always been saying that he didn't fight Cotto/Mosley because they are not huge draws.

So now he finally admits that Cotto is a huge draw? So why did you duck him back then Floyd

That is true, but yes ok Pac-Cotto is the better fight than Floyd-Marquez but reports are coming out that is did close to 2 million, that smokes anything Mayweather has ever done I think that has big big power when comes to negotiating.

Lets not forget Mayweather has also been groomed as a p4p boxing superstar for many many years before we new who Pac was, so it's taken time for Pac to become the ppv star he now is.

Like i said after the last performance imo Pac would do more buys than Mayweather if they fought the same fighter, for instance id put the house on say Pac-Mosley doing more than Mayweather-Mosley After his last performance Pac has become the premier star in the boxing world imo, the best no I still think Floyd beats him but for me he is the star now.

[knodaledge]

So why didn't Floyd fight Cotto then after all these years?

Floyd has always been saying that he didn't fight Cotto/Mosley because they are not huge draws.

So now he finally admits that Cotto is a huge draw? So why did you duck him back then Floyd

But Floyd did call those 2 guys out. Its common knowledge already.

Also, lets not forget that JCC jr. was on the card & is a successful draw by himself.

I'd say this actually gives Mayweather more leverage in negotiations. He did 1 million against an average draw in JMM, while Pac did 1.2 against a good draw in Cotto with another good draw in JCC jr. on the undercard.

I love that 60 to the winner idea tho. I don't see why the fighters would disagree to that. But i can see why their camps would.

[blegit]

Pacquiao-Cotto outdraws Mayweather-Marquez at gate - USATODAY.com


Pac's fight drew a larger gate than Floyd's. Certainly Floyd will argue that it was because it was the two of them whereas HE only sold the Marquez fight.

And he would be nearly right. JMM is a little draw. Lets be honest with ourselves here. Throw out your disdain for PBF, l do it all the time, and look at what PBF draws against what Pac draws. You can't just take one fight Pac drew better, with different opponents, and say well that wraps it up. PBF drew more than Pac with every common opponent. You do know that PBF is in the PPV record books right? You can't ignore the facts or try to twist them to favor Pac. Whether you hate him or love him PBF is the bigger draw.

[miron_lang]

Pacquiao-Cotto outdraws Mayweather-Marquez at gate - USATODAY.com


Pac's fight drew a larger gate than Floyd's. Certainly Floyd will argue that it was because it was the two of them whereas HE only sold the Marquez fight.

Many mexicans contributed to the sales. Its a mexican holiday for john's sake.

Its stupid to compare previous fights. Pac is at least 4X more popular after the Hatton and DLH victories.


50-50 is fair imo.

[fan johnny]

Well....

Here's what I think. 1. Pacquiao was called out by Mayweather, 2. Pacquiao is holding the WBA Welterweight title belt. 3. Pacquiao should defend the belt with at the maximum limit of 147lbs. 4. Pacquiao should go into the ring last. and 5. The split should be 51/49 toward the Title holder.

[Rantcatrat]

Pac v. Cotto did 1.25 million buys. (Pacquiao-Cotto Generates 1.25 Million Pay-Per-View Buys - Boxing News) Puerto Ricans accounted for 110,000 buys. It was a more compelling matchup than Mayweather v. Marquez must be part of the reason it did better numbers.

Good year for boxing, Pac/Cotto (1.25M), PBF/Marquez (1M), Pac/Hatton (850K). Also, first time in a decade, boxing had two fights that did more than 1 million buys.

I like Freddie Roach's idea of 50/50 split with the winner taking a big bonus. Both guys get 10M and the winner takes another 10M etc. Pacquiao-Mayweather: Roach Says �50-50 Gets it Done� - Boxing News

Pac does have the belt though and had to fight a tougher opponent in his last fight to get it.

[KKisser]

Pacquiao-Cotto outdraws Mayweather-Marquez at gate - USATODAY.com


Pac's fight drew a larger gate than Floyd's. Certainly Floyd will argue that it was because it was the two of them whereas HE only sold the Marquez fight.

Many mexicans contributed to the sales. Its a mexican holiday for john's sake.

Its stupid to compare previous fights. Pac is at least 4X more popular after the Hatton and DLH victories.


50-50 is fair imo.

and it was a comeback fight for floyd, people are curious. that and it's against an opponent pac had trouble with. anyways, i think this fight will eventually get made on even terms.