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    Default A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    Manny Pacquiao vs Paul Williams.

    This is a must see fight for me, and i'm sure many other fight fans out there. I just don't see anybody else in the division providing enough to challenge Pacquiao properly or blending to make a great fight. I say Williams would meet Pacquiao head on and would be a show of serious leather. Both sets of gloves would have to be some hardwearing shit on that night.

    Anyone else feel the same?

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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    Williams is too big. But its slightly beside the point as its more likely that he fights Kid Thunder. Both Floyd and Manny are cherry picking at this point, neither guys are cowards but if you're a truly dangerous fighter you better bring a lot of money to the table or the fight isn't happening. Williams should just stay at 154-160, fight similar sized guys.

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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post
    Manny Pacquiao vs Paul Williams.

    This is a must see fight for me, and i'm sure many other fight fans out there. I just don't see anybody else in the division providing enough to challenge Pacquiao properly or blending to make a great fight. I say Williams would meet Pacquiao head on and would be a show of serious leather. Both sets of gloves would have to be some hardwearing shit on that night.

    Anyone else feel the same?
    I would totally agree on you BUT there is one thing that makes me think that Pacman would smoke him off his shoes:

    Williams has a very clear problem with southpaw, Martinez, Quintana are quite good proof of it. In that respect, I think that it would be a terrible mismatch.
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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    Williams is far too big.

    This fight should never happen.

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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    Not even Mosley or Floyd would fight Williams at this point, so I don't see Pacman taking him on, plus it would be a total mismatch.

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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post
    Manny Pacquiao vs Paul Williams.

    This is a must see fight for me, and i'm sure many other fight fans out there. I just don't see anybody else in the division providing enough to challenge Pacquiao properly or blending to make a great fight. I say Williams would meet Pacquiao head on and would be a show of serious leather. Both sets of gloves would have to be some hardwearing shit on that night.

    Anyone else feel the same?
    I would totally agree on you BUT there is one thing that makes me think that Pacman would smoke him off his shoes:

    Williams has a very clear problem with southpaw, Martinez, Quintana are quite good proof of it. In that respect, I think that it would be a terrible mismatch.
    So was Winky Wright

    What Williams clearly struggles with are slick fighters with good movement. I think Pacquiao comes under that, but truthfully I think both Manny & Floyd would decision PW comfortably leading to him be branded overrated.

    Anyway I'm not that bothered about seeing this fight. The only way that Williams is worth enough for one of the top 3 at 147 to fight is if he gets a win over Pavlik. Williams should focus on cleaning up at either 154 or 160. MW particularly is gonna get real hot over the next year or two.

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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    I think Williams can not make 147 without being a zombie for a few days. Though none of the top welterweights seem to think so. Pac and Williams would be a fantastic fight but I think the big 3 welterweights are not going near that problem.

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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post
    Manny Pacquiao vs Paul Williams.

    This is a must see fight for me, and i'm sure many other fight fans out there. I just don't see anybody else in the division providing enough to challenge Pacquiao properly or blending to make a great fight. I say Williams would meet Pacquiao head on and would be a show of serious leather. Both sets of gloves would have to be some hardwearing shit on that night.

    Anyone else feel the same?
    I would totally agree on you BUT there is one thing that makes me think that Pacman would smoke him off his shoes:

    Williams has a very clear problem with southpaw, Martinez, Quintana are quite good proof of it. In that respect, I think that it would be a terrible mismatch.
    So was Winky Wright

    What Williams clearly struggles with are slick fighters with good movement. I think Pacquiao comes under that, but truthfully I think both Manny & Floyd would decision PW comfortably leading to him be branded overrated.

    Anyway I'm not that bothered about seeing this fight. The only way that Williams is worth enough for one of the top 3 at 147 to fight is if he gets a win over Pavlik. Williams should focus on cleaning up at either 154 or 160. MW particularly is gonna get real hot over the next year or two.
    Yeah but the difference with Winky is that Manny is a lot more aggressive and seems to pack much more power under his Reyes. Williams did struggle big time against Quintana and Martinez because have been very active against him and he couldn't cope with the big left coming over. For that reason, I think that Manny would slice through him in the later rounds.
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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    Pacman and every other fighter from 147 to 160 should avoid Paul like the plague.

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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post

    I would totally agree on you BUT there is one thing that makes me think that Pacman would smoke him off his shoes:

    Williams has a very clear problem with southpaw, Martinez, Quintana are quite good proof of it. In that respect, I think that it would be a terrible mismatch.
    So was Winky Wright

    What Williams clearly struggles with are slick fighters with good movement. I think Pacquiao comes under that, but truthfully I think both Manny & Floyd would decision PW comfortably leading to him be branded overrated.

    Anyway I'm not that bothered about seeing this fight. The only way that Williams is worth enough for one of the top 3 at 147 to fight is if he gets a win over Pavlik. Williams should focus on cleaning up at either 154 or 160. MW particularly is gonna get real hot over the next year or two.
    Yeah but the difference with Winky is that Manny is a lot more aggressive and seems to pack much more power under his Reyes. Williams did struggle big time against Quintana and Martinez because have been very active against him and he couldn't cope with the big left coming over. For that reason, I think that Manny would slice through him in the later rounds.
    Don't get me wrong, I think Manny would probably beat him, but he could probably keep it close, although that's assuming he could make 147 which I don't think he can.

    But, it's clear to me that what he struggles with are people who move around him rather than southpaws. Now Manny can do this with his exceptional footwork, but I think many guys can. I think the fact that Martinez & Quintana are southpaws distracts people from the fact both of these guys are movers & fairly slick. I think even a guy like Cotto could have boxed rings round Williams as long as he didn't give in to his urge to engage in a firefight.

    Williams totally wastes his natural advantages. He paws horribly with his jab & doesn't look to get the most out of his punches that he possibly could. Plus I think he's extremely vulnerable to speed. I think the Winky fight made him look much better than he is. Don't get me wrong he's a hell of a fighter, but perhaps not quite as good as we all bought into due the 'everyone is ducking me' debate.

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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    I'd still love to see the punch stats after this fight, regardless of who wins man......

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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post

    So was Winky Wright

    What Williams clearly struggles with are slick fighters with good movement. I think Pacquiao comes under that, but truthfully I think both Manny & Floyd would decision PW comfortably leading to him be branded overrated.

    Anyway I'm not that bothered about seeing this fight. The only way that Williams is worth enough for one of the top 3 at 147 to fight is if he gets a win over Pavlik. Williams should focus on cleaning up at either 154 or 160. MW particularly is gonna get real hot over the next year or two.
    Yeah but the difference with Winky is that Manny is a lot more aggressive and seems to pack much more power under his Reyes. Williams did struggle big time against Quintana and Martinez because have been very active against him and he couldn't cope with the big left coming over. For that reason, I think that Manny would slice through him in the later rounds.
    Don't get me wrong, I think Manny would probably beat him, but he could probably keep it close, although that's assuming he could make 147 which I don't think he can.

    But, it's clear to me that what he struggles with are people who move around him rather than southpaws. Now Manny can do this with his exceptional footwork, but I think many guys can. I think the fact that Martinez & Quintana are southpaws distracts people from the fact both of these guys are movers & fairly slick. I think even a guy like Cotto could have boxed rings round Williams as long as he didn't give in to his urge to engage in a firefight.

    Williams totally wastes his natural advantages. He paws horribly with his jab & doesn't look to get the most out of his punches that he possibly could. Plus I think he's extremely vulnerable to speed. I think the Winky fight made him look much better than he is. Don't get me wrong he's a hell of a fighter, but perhaps not quite as good as we all bought into due the 'everyone is ducking me' debate.
    I understand the mobility argument and it is a good one. However, Forrest was quite a mobile opponent and he didn't cause much difficulties to Williams at all. When you look back at the Quintana and the Martinez fight, the big left connect quite often too. I could agree that he has maybe been hyped a bit and that movement is something he doesn't like to deal with but from what I've seen, I am certain that the southpaw stance has something to do with it.
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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    This fight holds absolutely no appeal. Williams is a MW for christsake and should be focussing on cleaning out that division before moving up. Not boiling down to fight a guy who started out at 106, not matter how great that fighter may now be.

    Freak show and non-starter for me.

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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    I would have big money on Pac defeating Williams quite comfortably.

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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

    It would be the stupidest looking fight in history.

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