Why does the majority think Froch is inferior to Abraham and Kessler?

[Kev]

It seems the majority sentiment has always been that Froch will lose handily to both Kessler and Abraham.

I guess this is because he was behind against Taylor until the knockout and becuase he looked slow and clumsly against Dirrell.

But to be fair to him he looked much better in his last fight than both Kessler and Abraham did in theirs.

The Froch Dirrell fight was one you could argue went either way, but you'd struggle to find a single round before the 10th that you could give Abraham against the same fighter.

As for Kessler, he lost damn near every minute of every round against Andre Ward, it was Lazy Calzahghe, Coralles Mayweather style royal pummeling of a so called champion fighter, he was humiliated.

Yet the belief persists that Froch is worse than both of them, and will likely get knocked out both times.

I'm going out on a limb here but I think he can beat both of them, and book his way into the final against Andre Ward, with the winner being probably p4p number 1 allowing for the retirement of the winner of any future Floyd Manny showdown.

It could happen guys, imagine that, Carl Froch p4p number 1.....

[skel1983]

Not me I have him favourite in both, these sort of fighters won't beat Froch imo.

[Lance Uppercut]

He seems to always just barely win. This gives the impression that he is beatable. However, you have to give him credit, he does always win.

[mattboxingfan]

He is a decent fighter that is all, looking at his fight with Abraham I dont see anyway in which he can win the only thing that seems to bother him is speed and Froch doesnt have that equally Kessler has the same issues with speed so he should be able to do on over Froch but I see it a defo win for Abraham!

[killersheep]

Any fighter in this tournament that can stand up to Abraham's power will probably beat him, because he is only going for the KO, he doesn't care if he wins any rounds as long as he lands those shots to finish. As of now I am 50/50 on Abraham/Froch, I honestly don't hold either in a higher regard than the other at this point. Froch does have a great chin, Abraham does have great power so there it is it's a battle of chin vs. power to me. I don't think this will be as exciting as most are making it out to be, Abraham is gonna sit in his turtle shell as Froch tries everything he can to try and pull the guard down.

And now for more speculation............

As for Kessler, I feel Kessler is a far superior boxer over Froch and I would still pick him over Froch based on his fundamentals and foot movement. I think Ward would absolutely blow out Froch as well. But that's all just a guess.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Froch, skills are lacking on many levels. He is a fairly ordinary fighter but finds ways to win and should be applauded for that. His balance is horrible due to his foot placement, his handspeed is ordinary and his technique is lacking. He can punch which is what keeps fighters off him but he's just not that impressive. I would favor him over Abraham but not Kessler. Kessler will box his trunks off IMHO.

[Mar]

I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.

[CFH]

I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.

I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).

[blegit]

I don't think people think too less of him. Its just that he has those obvious flaws and he is too hittable. Against Abraham that probably won't bode well. I think Kessler is too technical for Froch and will split his wide open style all night. Froch does has tremendous heart and confidence. But thinking Froch isn't going to beat Abraham and/or Kessler isn't like saying anything bad. Those are a pair of great fighters who happened to match up well with Froch.

[Kev]

I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.

I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).

I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me

Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!

[BIG H]

As passionate a Brit I am, I'm not sold on Froch at all, same as I'm not sold on Haye. Don't think either of them are on the level of Hatton or Calzaghe.

ICB

Your point about Calzaghe being in a weak division and not taking risks, also TOTALLY applies to B-Hop and RJJ

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.

I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).

I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me

Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!

Bute eats Froch up with superior handspeed and movement. Both things Froch has trouble dealing with. Fact. Nevermind he's a southie.

[CFH]

I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.

I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).

I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me

Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!

I recall no sig bet, but I'm sure we can work something out if they ever meet. I'm not even a big fan of Bute, I just have a ton of respect for his abilities and I think a slick, fast, heavy-handed southpaw like Bute would be a lot of trouble for Froch.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).

I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me

Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!

I recall no sig bet, but I'm sure we can work something out if they ever meet. I'm not even a big fan of Bute, I just have a ton of respect for his abilities and I think a slick, fast, heavy-handed southpaw like Bute would be a lot of trouble for Froch.

Yup, I just don't understand why people are dogging his rating and such. He has a huge amount of skill.

Sorry, Bilbo... But you'd lose this bet.

Bute's not getting dragged into a brawl. He's too smart for that. ...and when that doesn't happen Bute severely outboxes him.

[Dark Lord Al]

I personally dont rate Kessler at all