That round 2...

[Gandalf]

I have watched that second round several times now and it is fun to watch. Floyd really buckled with that second large shot. If only Mosley was able to sustain it. He looked subdued but effective in round one and in the second it was as if we had a real fight on our hands. Of course Floyd made his adjustments to stop it happening again, but Mosley wasn't the same after that point. Either he was spent trying to find the stoppage or it was in his head that only a big punch would suffice from then on out, probably both those things. But from that point on the fight had returned to Floyd and he was the man in control again.

Mosley refused to work any of the basics. Where was the jab that we were promised? I seldom saw it. It was almost as if the round that sprang the fight into life had sucked away all of Mosley's will to force the win. Mosley didn't throw much but when he did it was strange pitty patter punches. I thought the corner advice was excellent, but Mosley didn't convert those words into actual practice. It was an odd showing.

[JonesJrMayweather]

I have watched that second round several times now and it is fun to watch. Floyd really buckled with that second large shot. If only Mosley was able to sustain it. He looked subdued but effective in round one and in the second it was as if we had a real fight on our hands. Of course Floyd made his adjustments to stop it happening again, but Mosley wasn't the same after that point. Either he was spent trying to find the stoppage or it was in his head that only a big punch would suffice from then on out, probably both those things. But from that point on the fight had returned to Floyd and he was the man in control again.

Mosley refused to work any of the basics. Where was the jab that we were promised? I seldom saw it. It was almost as if the round that sprang the fight into life had sucked away all of Mosley's will to force the win. Mosley didn't throw much but when he did it was strange pitty patter punches. I thought the corner advice was excellent, but Mosley didn't convert those words into actual practice. It was an odd showing.

have you ever gone out running one day when you're feeling fine and its a nice sunny day and you ate your wheaties. Your mind is totally up for the task but all of a sudden you hit a wall, now you know you can go faster because you've done it before but for some reason the body just isn't responding. That's what happened to Shane. Had nothing to do with floyd because he didn't do anything to cause it he just exploited it. This "it" whatever it was just zapped shane of everything after the 2 round he looked gassed and spent the rest of the fight searching for his energy.

[Gandalf]

When watching the fight I was thinking that maybe he had slowed in the third because he knew it would be twelve hard rounds and was pacing himself, but he just never raised it to that level of intensity again. Another frustrating fight to watch because you just know a Mosley at his best would have pressed Floyd harder than anyone else.

[Majesty]

When watching the fight I was thinking that maybe he had slowed in the third because he knew it would be twelve hard rounds and was pacing himself, but he just never raised it to that level of intensity again. Another frustrating fight to watch because you just know a Mosley at his best would have pressed Floyd harder than anyone else.

Floyd had won the mental game by not going down and by pressing Mosley even when hurt.

Mosley never had anyone he hurt with a shot start forcing action against him that was faster. Also Floyd started consistently throwing a jab in Mosley's face.

Mosley did what judah did, saw he had Mayweather and then shot his load just like Floyd wanted him to, once he endured it and started pressing Mosley NOT giving him the time off which im sure Mosley expected. Mosley expected if he hurt Floyd and shot his load that Floyd would run and give him time to regain himself so he could come on late. Floyd instead pressed him and pressured him so Mosley could never get that break he thought he would and from that point on Floyd broke him down.

It's kind of like racing against someone and feeling your sides hurt but you see them fall down so you press harder to run to get further ahead and then you slow down figuring they are so far behind they won't catch you, but then you see them running up behind you twice as fast. Tortoise and the Hare.

A Mosley in his prime wasn't as smart as the Mosley of today. He was more wreckless and relied more on talents and didn't have the same patience he has now. Shane fought this fight good rather then trying the double jab buggy thing he is known for, he tried timing Floyd, a younger Mosley would have tried to double jab right hand Mayweather and been countered more imo.

[JonesJrMayweather]

When watching the fight I was thinking that maybe he had slowed in the third because he knew it would be twelve hard rounds and was pacing himself, but he just never raised it to that level of intensity again. Another frustrating fight to watch because you just know a Mosley at his best would have pressed Floyd harder than anyone else.

Floyd had won the mental game by not going down and by pressing Mosley even when hurt.

Mosley never had anyone he hurt with a shot start forcing action against him that was faster. Also Floyd started consistently throwing a jab in Mosley's face.

Mosley did what judah did, saw he had Mayweather and then shot his load just like Floyd wanted him to, once he endured it and started pressing Mosley NOT giving him the time off which im sure Mosley expected. Mosley expected if he hurt Floyd and shot his load that Floyd would run and give him time to regain himself so he could come on late. Floyd instead pressed him and pressured him so Mosley could never get that break he thought he would and from that point on Floyd broke him down.

It's kind of like racing against someone and feeling your sides hurt but you see them fall down so you press harder to run to get further ahead and then you slow down figuring they are so far behind they won't catch you, but then you see them running up behind you twice as fast. Tortoise and the Hare.

A Mosley in his prime wasn't as smart as the Mosley of today. He was more wreckless and relied more on talents and didn't have the same patience he has now. Shane fought this fight good rather then trying the double jab buggy thing he is known for, he tried timing Floyd, a younger Mosley would have tried to double jab right hand Mayweather and been countered more imo.

yeah totally, a younger mosley would have been slower, less explosive, less stamina meaning he could have lasted maybe four rounds before gassing out, less power, not as strong...everything. Boy was he lucky he ducked floyd for so long because it would have really gotten ugly had he had his physical tools that made him shane for so long...

[Althugz]

Yeah that 2nd round certainly had our whole boxing party on their feet lol!

Yeah, we thought Shane looked tired towards from about the middle to the end but conditioning has never been Shane's problem. He's fought at a much higher pace than round 2 for most rounds of most of his career.

I really think as Majesty said, he was shocked by the pace Floyd set - Kept the middle of the ring and had Mosley backing up for most of the fight. (When do you EVER see that happen?)

I do hope this isn't turning into another excuse for Floyd's performance. He just beat the best welterweight today with his eyes closed. I thought it was a little ugly and Floyd seems to be going a little bit more in the direction of Bernard Hopkins at points in his fights. Elbow, pushing opponents head down, leading with the head etc but he's much more fun to watch than B-Hop and his skills are unbelievable.

I think when we criticise fighters for their gameplan against fight Floyd, we can't imagine what it is like being in the ring with him. I was saying that to my friends. It is a catch 22.

Sure, you've hurt Floyd in round 2 so keep putting the pressure on him from then on, right? Oh, but then he counters you with a hurtful counter right so now you're scared to throw in case you leave yourself open. BUT you know you have to throw something otherwise Floyd is gonna out hustle you.

Everyone finds it so easy to say - "Well if Oscar used his jab he woulda won!" or "If Ricky kept his cool he woulda won!" or "if Shane kept throwing like in round 2 he woulda won".

Most of the time, Floyd is the reason those things aren't happening. I don't think he gets enough credit for that.

In a way, he does himself no favours by thoroughly outclassing opposition the way he does. I actually think people would respect him more if he won close 115-113's once in a while because he makes every world-class opponent he faces look like garbage with these wide scores.

[rjj tszyu]

Yeah that 2nd round certainly had our whole boxing party on their feet lol!

Yeah, we thought Shane looked tired towards from about the middle to the end but conditioning has never been Shane's problem. He's fought at a much higher pace than round 2 for most rounds of most of his career.

I really think as Majesty said, he was shocked by the pace Floyd set - Kept the middle of the ring and had Mosley backing up for most of the fight. (When do you EVER see that happen?)

I do hope this isn't turning into another excuse for Floyd's performance. He just beat the best welterweight today with his eyes closed. I thought it was a little ugly and Floyd seems to be going a little bit more in the direction of Bernard Hopkins at points in his fights. Elbow, pushing opponents head down, leading with the head etc but he's much more fun to watch than B-Hop and his skills are unbelievable.

I think when we criticise fighters for their gameplan against fight Floyd, we can't imagine what it is like being in the ring with him. I was saying that to my friends. It is a catch 22.

Sure, you've hurt Floyd in round 2 so keep putting the pressure on him from then on, right? Oh, but then he counters you with a hurtful counter right so now you're scared to throw in case you leave yourself open. BUT you know you have to throw something otherwise Floyd is gonna out hustle you.

Everyone finds it so easy to say - "Well if Oscar used his jab he woulda won!" or "If Ricky kept his cool he woulda won!" or "if Shane kept throwing like in round 2 he woulda won".

Most of the time, Floyd is the reason those things aren't happening. I don't think he gets enough credit for that.

In a way, he does himself no favours by thoroughly outclassing opposition the way he does. I actually think people would respect him more if he won close 115-113's once in a while because he makes every world-class opponent he faces look like garbage with these wide scores.

Good post. Although I don't think he would get peoples respect if he did have a close fight with a 115-113. He had a close one with Oscar at 154lbs, was clearly oversized, came from behind and still didn't get respect. This is why he acts like such a dick most of the time. A lot of boxing fans will only realise how great Floyd is when he's gone.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Yeah that 2nd round certainly had our whole boxing party on their feet lol!

Yeah, we thought Shane looked tired towards from about the middle to the end but conditioning has never been Shane's problem. He's fought at a much higher pace than round 2 for most rounds of most of his career.

I really think as Majesty said, he was shocked by the pace Floyd set - Kept the middle of the ring and had Mosley backing up for most of the fight. (When do you EVER see that happen?)

I do hope this isn't turning into another excuse for Floyd's performance. He just beat the best welterweight today with his eyes closed. I thought it was a little ugly and Floyd seems to be going a little bit more in the direction of Bernard Hopkins at points in his fights. Elbow, pushing opponents head down, leading with the head etc but he's much more fun to watch than B-Hop and his skills are unbelievable.

I think when we criticise fighters for their gameplan against fight Floyd, we can't imagine what it is like being in the ring with him. I was saying that to my friends. It is a catch 22.

Sure, you've hurt Floyd in round 2 so keep putting the pressure on him from then on, right? Oh, but then he counters you with a hurtful counter right so now you're scared to throw in case you leave yourself open. BUT you know you have to throw something otherwise Floyd is gonna out hustle you.

Everyone finds it so easy to say - "Well if Oscar used his jab he woulda won!" or "If Ricky kept his cool he woulda won!" or "if Shane kept throwing like in round 2 he woulda won".

Most of the time, Floyd is the reason those things aren't happening. I don't think he gets enough credit for that.

In a way, he does himself no favours by thoroughly outclassing opposition the way he does. I actually think people would respect him more if he won close 115-113's once in a while because he makes every world-class opponent he faces look like garbage with these wide scores.

That's normally true, but that's not what happended to Shane. Shane looked like RJJ v Calzaghe. He dropped him early but didn't have the body to continue. He was the epitome of "getting old overnight"...

I'll say so the floyd blindsiders won't have to defend it...

YES!!!! Floyd did a great job in winning the fight.



























But it still doesn't change the fact that Shane looked his age from the first bell, and it wasn't because floyd was doing anything special....

[Taeth]

I have watched that second round several times now and it is fun to watch. Floyd really buckled with that second large shot. If only Mosley was able to sustain it. He looked subdued but effective in round one and in the second it was as if we had a real fight on our hands. Of course Floyd made his adjustments to stop it happening again, but Mosley wasn't the same after that point. Either he was spent trying to find the stoppage or it was in his head that only a big punch would suffice from then on out, probably both those things. But from that point on the fight had returned to Floyd and he was the man in control again.

Mosley refused to work any of the basics. Where was the jab that we were promised? I seldom saw it. It was almost as if the round that sprang the fight into life had sucked away all of Mosley's will to force the win. Mosley didn't throw much but when he did it was strange pitty patter punches. I thought the corner advice was excellent, but Mosley didn't convert those words into actual practice. It was an odd showing.

have you ever gone out running one day when you're feeling fine and its a nice sunny day and you ate your wheaties. Your mind is totally up for the task but all of a sudden you hit a wall, now you know you can go faster because you've done it before but for some reason the body just isn't responding. That's what happened to Shane. Had nothing to do with floyd because he didn't do anything to cause it he just exploited it. This "it" whatever it was just zapped shane of everything after the 2 round he looked gassed and spent the rest of the fight searching for his energy.

give me a fucking break, everytime shane tried to get off he was either countered or beaten to the punch thats why he looked lost, he couldn't get anything off.

Also Mayweather was stunned, but not that badly. People making way too big of a deal out of this. IMO Corley stunned him just as badly, but Oscar who hit Floyd flush with a left hook at the end of their fight didn't even phase Floyd. Sure Floyd covered up, but once that barrage was done Floyd adapted like he did against Judah and dominated.

[toe2toe]

mosley was heavily breathing after round 2 and surprisingly he never got a second wind.

[X]

It was a really good fight. I thought Shane really landed twice with shots that would have finished a lesser fighter. The right he caught Floyd with later on was just as good a punch as the left hook that wrecked Mayorga. Floys was definitely hurt (and didnt try to deny it at the post fight interview)

The crux of the fight, I thought, was that Shane just couldnt belive the speed and accuracy of Floyd's counterpunching. When you are fighting a guy that punishes you every time you make a tiny mistake, you get nervous pulling the trigger. Shane resorted to over-feinting to try and get a reaction from Floyd, but his reflexes were uncanny and Shane ended up stiff and awkward (who would have ever thought that?) He ran out of gas because of that and was in survival mode from the 8th onward.

[toe2toe]

It was a really good fight. I thought Shane really landed twice with shots that would have finished a lesser fighter. The right he caught Floyd with later on was just as good a punch as the left hook that wrecked Mayorga. Floys was definitely hurt (and didnt try to deny it at the post fight interview)

The crux of the fight, I thought, was that Shane just couldnt belive the speed and accuracy of Floyd's counterpunching. When you are fighting a guy that punishes you every time you make a tiny mistake, you get nervous pulling the trigger. Shane resorted to over-feinting to try and get a reaction from Floyd, but his reflexes were uncanny and Shane ended up stiff and awkward (who would have ever thought that?) He ran out of gas because of that and was in survival mode from the 8th onward.

could the gloves mattered in those 2 big shots? mosley was not able to wear his preferred gloves, the cleto reyes (puncher's gloves). team mayweather required mosley to wear the grant brand of gloves.

also after the fight, i didn't see any noticeable lumps or cuts on mosley's face even after absorbing several clean shots from mayweather. pillow gloves?

[JazMerkin]

It was a really good fight. I thought Shane really landed twice with shots that would have finished a lesser fighter. The right he caught Floyd with later on was just as good a punch as the left hook that wrecked Mayorga. Floys was definitely hurt (and didnt try to deny it at the post fight interview)

The crux of the fight, I thought, was that Shane just couldnt belive the speed and accuracy of Floyd's counterpunching. When you are fighting a guy that punishes you every time you make a tiny mistake, you get nervous pulling the trigger. Shane resorted to over-feinting to try and get a reaction from Floyd, but his reflexes were uncanny and Shane ended up stiff and awkward (who would have ever thought that?) He ran out of gas because of that and was in survival mode from the 8th onward.

This. Shane wasn't old and I picked him to win before the fight (although my initial instinct was a close PBF decision), but he was not shot. He was just confused and beaten by the better man on the night.

Mayweather didn't pretend that he wasn't hurt, he said he was, but what he showed in that round was the great heart he displayed in plenty of other fights (albeit at lower weights where no doubt his haters never saw him fight), to come back and actually win the end of the round having taken the kind of shots that levelled Vargas, Mayorga and Margarito and had Cotto playing run-away at the end of their fight. He had really sat down on both of them, and not only did Floyd stay standing he came back to batter him, and were it not for the face Mosley has probably the best chin and one of the best hearts in the sport, he would almost certainly have gone.

[ono]

I have watched that second round several times now and it is fun to watch. Floyd really buckled with that second large shot. If only Mosley was able to sustain it. He looked subdued but effective in round one and in the second it was as if we had a real fight on our hands. Of course Floyd made his adjustments to stop it happening again, but Mosley wasn't the same after that point. Either he was spent trying to find the stoppage or it was in his head that only a big punch would suffice from then on out, probably both those things. But from that point on the fight had returned to Floyd and he was the man in control again.

Mosley refused to work any of the basics. Where was the jab that we were promised? I seldom saw it. It was almost as if the round that sprang the fight into life had sucked away all of Mosley's will to force the win. Mosley didn't throw much but when he did it was strange pitty patter punches. I thought the corner advice was excellent, but Mosley didn't convert those words into actual practice. It was an odd showing.

have you ever gone out running one day when you're feeling fine and its a nice sunny day and you ate your wheaties. Your mind is totally up for the task but all of a sudden you hit a wall, now you know you can go faster because you've done it before but for some reason the body just isn't responding. That's what happened to Shane. Had nothing to do with floyd because he didn't do anything to cause it he just exploited it. This "it" whatever it was just zapped shane of everything after the 2 round he looked gassed and spent the rest of the fight searching for his energy.

give me a fucking break, everytime shane tried to get off he was either countered or beaten to the punch thats why he looked lost, he couldn't get anything off.

Also Mayweather was stunned, but not that badly. People making way too big of a deal out of this. IMO Corley stunned him just as badly, but Oscar who hit Floyd flush with a left hook at the end of their fight didn't even phase Floyd. Sure Floyd covered up, but once that barrage was done Floyd adapted like he did against Judah and dominated.

Agreed

[fan johnny]

I have watched that second round several times now and it is fun to watch. Floyd really buckled with that second large shot. If only Mosley was able to sustain it. He looked subdued but effective in round one and in the second it was as if we had a real fight on our hands. Of course Floyd made his adjustments to stop it happening again, but Mosley wasn't the same after that point. Either he was spent trying to find the stoppage or it was in his head that only a big punch would suffice from then on out, probably both those things. But from that point on the fight had returned to Floyd and he was the man in control again.

Mosley refused to work any of the basics. Where was the jab that we were promised? I seldom saw it. It was almost as if the round that sprang the fight into life had sucked away all of Mosley's will to force the win. Mosley didn't throw much but when he did it was strange pitty patter punches. I thought the corner advice was excellent, but Mosley didn't convert those words into actual practice. It was an odd showing.

have you ever gone out running one day when you're feeling fine and its a nice sunny day and you ate your wheaties. Your mind is totally up for the task but all of a sudden you hit a wall, now you know you can go faster because you've done it before but for some reason the body just isn't responding. That's what happened to Shane. Had nothing to do with floyd because he didn't do anything to cause it he just exploited it. This "it" whatever it was just zapped shane of everything after the 2 round he looked gassed and spent the rest of the fight searching for his energy.

give me a fucking break, everytime shane tried to get off he was either countered or beaten to the punch thats why he looked lost, he couldn't get anything off.

Also Mayweather was stunned, but not that badly. People making way too big of a deal out of this. IMO Corley stunned him just as badly, but Oscar who hit Floyd flush with a left hook at the end of their fight didn't even phase Floyd. Sure Floyd covered up, but once that barrage was done Floyd adapted like he did against Judah and dominated.

What fight did you watch? That fight was filled with faints... (I'm going to hit you and then, nothing by mouth like school kids in the playground but old) it was nearing the point of being pathetic. Not that far off from Jones/Hopkins.