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Manny vs floyd is further away now than it was a few months back...
And I'll tell you why....
Manny had a huge bargaining tool in that due to his massive popularity, a lot of the revenue would come directly from his fans. Although floyd disputed this, it could still be claimed that the only reason floyd fought in huge huge fights was down to the popularity of his opponant (Hatton, DLH) rather than his own popularity.
This bargaining tool got thrown out of the window this weekend as the numbers for Floyd vs Mosley COULD have done around 4 million buys, which would dwarf what Pac vs Clottey did. And remember, Mosely has never had the PPV popularity of a Hatton or DLH.
Mayweathers team will know this and can give strong claim to Floyd being the legit 'Cash Cow' and the main draw of the fight. Not the pacman.
Bottom line. NO WAY IN HELL will they let pac do a 50/50 split. they'll offer 70/30 and tell him to think himself lucky.
The testing issue. Shane mosley did the test and didn't complain about it once. A president has been set. By refusing testing not only is he open to accusation by boxing fans and pundits a like for being a steroid user, he will also get accused of not being as much a man as shane mosley. And in a testosterone fuelled bravado sport like boxing no one want's to have their manhood questioned (ahem)...
The pound for pound issue. Before the weekend a hell of alot of people claimed manny to be the best pound for pound fighter on the planet. If Floyd wanted to have that title back on his name he'd have to prove it, and the only way to do that would be to get in with pacquiao. Essentially you could say Floyd needed Pac. After the weekend though, has the situation has changed?
Floyd not only defeated the best welter weight in the world (a man Pac actually avoided), he dominated him. AND at the same time showed that his chin and capacity to take a punch vastly exceeded what was first thought. The last thing to go is a fighters punch. Even if Mosley was shot (his previous fight and posts from many boxing fans on this very website providing evidence to the contrary) he would still retain the power that made him a multi weight world champ. And floyd took it. And smiled.
Shane Mosley was Floyd Mayweathers hardest fight...... and look how easy it was.
In comparison to Shane Mosley, Pacquiao's last foe, Joshua Clottey is a welter weight non entity. Maybe that's a little harsh but when comparing his career to that of Shane Mosley you get the picture.
After the week end and the level of last opponants is the pound for pound issue really still in dispute? Does Floyd really need Manny to prove anything? I'd say the table has turned. Manny now needs floyd.
And so it comes full circle. Manny may now need floyd, which would mean bowing to a much small split of the purse, having to do the random tests... If he didn't take the fight before why is he likely to take it now when he's going to be offered a deal thats not as good as the one before....
The saving grace for the boxing fan in this instance is money. This fight is actually worth more now... by a good few million. And as has been said before, it's too much money to turn down....
It can be argued that boxing needs this fight (and I'd agree with that) but do the boxers really need the fight?
I expect negotiations to open and collapse and Floyd to then go on to fight the winner of Cintron and Williams.... Providing it's Cintron...
Williams won't get down to 147 to fight floyd and I doubt Mayweather would go up to light middle to fight Williams.
Where Pac would go, who knows? Pac's fans will be happy watch him fight anyone do there is still plenty of money to be made in easy non risk fights in boxing. However more than likely he'd go full on into pollotics....
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Originally Posted by Mo Frazier
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