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    Default Could Guillermo Rigondeaux be the top 10 p4p with fewest fights?

    I'm just curious what is the least amount of fights somebody has had to become a top 10 p4p? I think he could reach that plateau in 3-4 if they give him the true in and around his division. Though most have fled his division already.

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    Default Re: Could Guillermo Rigondeaux be the top 10 p4p with fewest fights?

    with the competition he's facing, highly doubtful

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    Default Re: Could Guillermo Rigondeaux be the top 10 p4p with fewest fights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I'm just curious what is the least amount of fights somebody has had to become a top 10 p4p? I think he could reach that plateau in 3-4 if they give him the true in and around his division. Though most have fled his division already.
    If he stays at 122 he's going to have an extremely hard time getting p4p status. I believe he's going to have a hard time getting quality fights in general. He's fighting Cordoba which is definitely a step in the right direction, but nowhere near the p4p radar. To get the best fights at 122 (Nishioka and Lee) he has to travel to Japan, which may not be congruent with his team's marketing plan.

    This also goes against a time that has permanent fixtures Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, The war torn super six members, the reemergance of a heavyweight on the list, a back and forth battle for middleweight lineal titles. And other lineal contests.

    Last but certainly not least, he is not a Golden Boy fighter.
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    Default Re: Could Guillermo Rigondeaux be the top 10 p4p with fewest fights?

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I'm just curious what is the least amount of fights somebody has had to become a top 10 p4p? I think he could reach that plateau in 3-4 if they give him the true in and around his division. Though most have fled his division already.
    If he stays at 122 he's going to have an extremely hard time getting p4p status. I believe he's going to have a hard time getting quality fights in general. He's fighting Cordoba which is definitely a step in the right direction, but nowhere near the p4p radar. To get the best fights at 122 (Nishioka and Lee) he has to travel to Japan, which may not be congruent with his team's marketing plan.

    This also goes against a time that has permanent fixtures Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, The war torn super six members, the reemergance of a heavyweight on the list, a back and forth battle for middleweight lineal titles. And other lineal contests.

    Last but certainly not least, he is not a Golden Boy fighter.
    Rigondeaux won't just stay at 122, and I think he could any of the guys to come to america because he will be a bigger draw than Lee or Nishioka and they will make more money in the states. He also states that he will be willing to go down and face Montiel and/or Donaire, or go up to 126 and face Gamboa, JML, Caballero, etc.

    Morales, with the competition he's facing? He has barely started as a pro and he is facing a guy that beat Caballero before. That seems pretty good to me for his 7th pro fight.

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    Default Re: Could Guillermo Rigondeaux be the top 10 p4p with fewest fights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
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    I'm just curious what is the least amount of fights somebody has had to become a top 10 p4p? I think he could reach that plateau in 3-4 if they give him the true in and around his division. Though most have fled his division already.
    If he stays at 122 he's going to have an extremely hard time getting p4p status. I believe he's going to have a hard time getting quality fights in general. He's fighting Cordoba which is definitely a step in the right direction, but nowhere near the p4p radar. To get the best fights at 122 (Nishioka and Lee) he has to travel to Japan, which may not be congruent with his team's marketing plan.

    This also goes against a time that has permanent fixtures Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, The war torn super six members, the reemergance of a heavyweight on the list, a back and forth battle for middleweight lineal titles. And other lineal contests.

    Last but certainly not least, he is not a Golden Boy fighter.
    Rigondeaux won't just stay at 122, and I think he could any of the guys to come to america because he will be a bigger draw than Lee or Nishioka and they will make more money in the states. He also states that he will be willing to go down and face Montiel and/or Donaire, or go up to 126 and face Gamboa, JML, Caballero, etc.

    Morales, with the competition he's facing? He has barely started as a pro and he is facing a guy that beat Caballero before. That seems pretty good to me for his 7th pro fight.
    Lee and Nishioka are huge stars in Japan, they could fight over here, but it would need to be a big purse to make it worth their while.

    Why would Montiel, Donaire, Gamboa, JML, Caballero, DPDL, Jhonny, or any of those guys fight Rigondeaux when there is much easier higher reward fights available.

    My doubting that Rigondeaux will be become p4p with the fewest fights has nothing to do with the fact that he wouldn't beat these guys and everything to do with his inability to get fights going forward. He is simply too high risk, low reward. Cordoba had a great win against Caballero, but that was many years and many wars ago, after Cordoba's loss to Dunne he was set back with his bargaining power and hence available for a fight with Rigondeaux.

    Also it's a little presumptuous to state that he will fight anyone anywhere, I haven't heard him make any claim to back that up.
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    Default Re: Could Guillermo Rigondeaux be the top 10 p4p with fewest fights?

    Are you serious Taeth? The guy is facing his first test 7 fights in. It's great that you think he can compete with the top guys 7 fights in, great! However, what makes you think this would actually happen? Kind of ridiculous and it would take a lot more then just cleaning out 122 right now to make that happen.

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    Default Re: Could Guillermo Rigondeaux be the top 10 p4p with fewest fights?

    I think its possible. his body punching game is h the roof.

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    Default Re: Could Guillermo Rigondeaux be the top 10 p4p with fewest fights?

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Are you serious Taeth? The guy is facing his first test 7 fights in. It's great that you think he can compete with the top guys 7 fights in, great! However, what makes you think this would actually happen? Kind of ridiculous and it would take a lot more then just cleaning out 122 right now to make that happen.
    I am not saying anyone will put him on their p4p list right away, but this is a good start, ande he does have the skill/talent. Even if it takes him a three fights to clear out the 122 pound division it will only take one big win after that IMO, and an impressive win to put him in the top 10 p4p, I mean Mayweather did it when he had only two really big wins behind him. I think people take more than quality of opponent into consideration, but also they level of skill. And RIgondeaux is competitive with anyone when it comes to skill.

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