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    Default Hardest Fights to Judge

    After looking at a couple of fights over the weekend I was curious as to what are some fights that posters here have had the most difficulty scoring. By this I don't mean what was deemed controversial by the media necessarily but more so in your personal judgement. A fight that you can look at two or three times and find reasons to give rds to each fighter each time you watch it. Note that this is not necessarily decision based but it could just be the closeness of the rounds.
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    Off the top just rewatched McCallum vs Toney 2 few days ago...this time I had McCallum by 1.

    Every step possible should be made to avoid scoring rounds even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Off the top just rewatched McCallum vs Toney 2 few days ago...this time I had McCallum by 1.

    Every step possible should be made to avoid scoring rounds even.
    McCallum wins that for me both times, cannot see why Toney get the decision even the first one which was much closer. I also had Hopkins beat Taylor but the hardest rounds to score are the ones where they do naff all and just pose and throw no meaningful punches.
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    Default Re: Hardest Fights to Judge

    I can't think of any fights that I've had a hard time scoring. But I will say I REALLY hate judging those "feeling out" rounds, where guys are pulling their punches, gauging their range and nothing is really landing

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    Default Re: Hardest Fights to Judge

    Morales/Barrera I
    Gatti/Ward I
    De La Hoya/Quartey
    Bowe/Holyfield I

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    Default Re: Hardest Fights to Judge

    Trinidad/De LaHoya. After the first five rounds I seem to always have it 2-2-1, but usually with different guys winning different rounds.
    Also, for years, just about any fight on HBO, since Lampley decides before hand who he wants to win and calls the fight that way. Watching them with no sound is often like watching another fight. Chavez-Taylor I is a good example of this.

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    Default Re: Hardest Fights to Judge

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Off the top just rewatched McCallum vs Toney 2 few days ago...this time I had McCallum by 1.

    Every step possible should be made to avoid scoring rounds even.

    I don't know about this, fighter A can batter fighter B and be 10-9 up.
    next round can be even but judges always score it for one fighter, so if they give it to fighter B then the fight is even...
    I think one the biggest problems with boxing is the scoring, while I don't have a solution for it I think judges not scoring rounds even is a major problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Off the top just rewatched McCallum vs Toney 2 few days ago...this time I had McCallum by 1.

    Every step possible should be made to avoid scoring rounds even.

    I don't know about this, fighter A can batter fighter B and be 10-9 up.
    next round can be even but judges always score it for one fighter, so if they give it to fighter B then the fight is even...
    I think one the biggest problems with boxing is the scoring, while I don't have a solution for it I think judges not scoring rounds even is a major problem.
    Its always been a pet peeve. Just screams " I dunno". Of course I say this with the convenience of replay and hindsight while ringside judges are in the moment not to mention entirely different POV. There just has to be one advantage for one over the other, even in the slightest. Should be encouraged to differentiate though not just for the sake of avoiding even round. Comes down to quality of judges in the first place and lack of accountability and a review process, etc. Just to many 'close' results that see multiple rounds even, draws.

    No answer really. I remember years ago a 'tie breaker' round was proposed in conjunction with open scoring. Thought open scoring was a horrendous idea. A minimum of rounds even? Odd number of rounds per matches? I'm not even sure if they still have 5 rounders on the west coast.

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    I always find the hardest are the toe to toe tear ups. Probably because I'm too excited watching the scrap to judge properly.

    Froch vs Kessler was a struggle for me to split them on loads of rounds.

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    Default Re: Hardest Fights to Judge

    Norton-Ali 2 and 3.

    Pacquiao-JMM 2.

    De La Hoya-Quartey.

    Leonard-Hagler.

    Just a few off the top of my head.

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    Hopkins vs calzaghe??
    Maybe mayweather vs Judah?

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    Default Re: Hardest Fights to Judge

    Quote Originally Posted by Dropanuke View Post
    Hopkins vs calzaghe??
    Maybe mayweather vs Judah?
    I think Hopkins v Clazghe was really easy to score. Hopkins won the firts 4 rounds, JC won the rest
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    Tim Witherspoon vs Larry Holmes = Razor thin close fight that could of gone either way.

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    Default Re: Hardest Fights to Judge

    Quote Originally Posted by chinchekked View Post
    After looking at a couple of fights over the weekend I was curious as to what are some fights that posters here have had the most difficulty scoring. By this I don't mean what was deemed controversial by the media necessarily but more so in your personal judgement. A fight that you can look at two or three times and find reasons to give rds to each fighter each time you watch it. Note that this is not necessarily decision based but it could just be the closeness of the rounds.
    Great question.

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