Now I'm not denying that he is a very good fighter, but he seems now by almost unanimous acclaim to be considered one of the top 3 or 4 p4p fighters in the world.

Have his results really merited that?

Look at his last 5 or 6 fights. He went 1-1 with Williams, won a decision over Pavlik, fought to a draw against Kermit Cintron (a bulsshit call I know, but he still went 12 rounds and couldn't decivesly finish him) and last time out beat some 154 lber none of us had seen fight before.

Now it IS an impressive, run, and his loss to Williams was close too, but again, whether you thought he won or not, it was razor close.

It seems to me that in his biggest fights, they had all been beaten, often better before.

Margarito wrecked Cintron twice, Hopkins made Pavlik look clueless, and Williams was outboxed in his first fight with Quintana.

I would argue that there are other fighters who have had better wins lately. Andre Ward, Carl Froch, Bernad Hopkins stand out for me.

Sergio is definitely p5p, and to be fair he'd probably be in my top 5 I think. Having said that I don't think he's beaten anybody great yet. Williams was his best win, but he's 1-1 with him.

Most regard Cintron pretty lightly, Pavlik as badly faded, Znisiruk or whatever as an unknown.

I think Martinez is benefiting from being in a weak division with no competition.

If Abraham came back down that could be interesting. I'd give Pavlik a shot in a rematch if he found his old form.

A very good fighter, but no rivals, and to me, he hasn't looked different class in his fights with Williams and Pavlik, or even Cintron really. Certainly nowhere near the different class Mayweather, Manny, Ward, Donaire have all looked lately.