Do you think Quillin is a better fighter than a prime Jermaine Taylor?

[FinitoElDinamita]

What do you think?

[Rantcatrat]

No, at least not yet. A prime JT went head to head with Hopkins and beat Winky Wright. Quillin's claim to fame is a close win over N'Jikam, thus far. The problem is that Quillin's people haven't done jack for his career in the past year. While other middleweights are on the rise, Barker/GGG, even Geale in loss, Quillin's career stagnates. Heck, it even seems likes Hatton is doing a better job for Murray.

[ykdadamaja]

What do you think?

No. JT was a beast, before he started to force himself to make weight. I sincerely believe he should have left MW a long, LONG time ago. He should have made it to LH by now. His forcing to make weight made him extra chinny!

[ykdadamaja]

No, at least not yet. A prime JT went head to head with Hopkins and beat Winky Wright. Quillin's claim to fame is a close win over N'Jikam, thus far. The problem is that Quillin's people haven't done jack for his career in the past year. While other middleweights are on the rise, Barker/GGG, even Geale in loss, Quillin's career stagnates. Heck, it even seems likes Hatton is doing a better job for Murray.

What in the world are you smoking? Quillin is the WBO champ. No one wants to fight.

The only fights out there that folks would take serious at this stage are fights with GGG/Ward (step up in weight) and Martinez. I think Murray would take the fight too. But Barker would duck and so would anyone else at MW and S-MW.

[Silkeyjoe]

No, at least not yet. A prime JT went head to head with Hopkins and beat Winky Wright. Quillin's claim to fame is a close win over N'Jikam, thus far. The problem is that Quillin's people haven't done jack for his career in the past year. While other middleweights are on the rise, Barker/GGG, even Geale in loss, Quillin's career stagnates. Heck, it even seems likes Hatton is doing a better job for Murray.

What in the world are you smoking? Quillin is the WBO champ. No one wants to fight.

The only fights out there that folks would take serious at this stage are fights with GGG/Ward (step up in weight) and Martinez. I think Murray would take the fight too. But Barker would duck and so would anyone else at MW and S-MW.

You must be the one who's smoking something. Noone would duck him after watching the N'dam fight. There's plent of good fights for him, his team just won't fork out the cash. Macklin, Murray, Stevens would all fight him

[ykdadamaja]

No, at least not yet. A prime JT went head to head with Hopkins and beat Winky Wright. Quillin's claim to fame is a close win over N'Jikam, thus far. The problem is that Quillin's people haven't done jack for his career in the past year. While other middleweights are on the rise, Barker/GGG, even Geale in loss, Quillin's career stagnates. Heck, it even seems likes Hatton is doing a better job for Murray.

What in the world are you smoking? Quillin is the WBO champ. No one wants to fight.

The only fights out there that folks would take serious at this stage are fights with GGG/Ward (step up in weight) and Martinez. I think Murray would take the fight too. But Barker would duck and so would anyone else at MW and S-MW.

You must be the one who's smoking something. Noone would duck him after watching the N'dam fight. There's plent of good fights for him, his team just won't fork out the cash. Macklin, Murray, Stevens would all fight him

No one wants to see Mucklin fight anyone. ANYONE!!! Barker will duck. Stevens will duck- it's a no-win for him. High risk, low rewards.

Murray may take the fight. But other than the names I said, no one wants to get in their with Quillin. At least any name of real note. Which there aren't much at this stage.

[Silkeyjoe]

No, at least not yet. A prime JT went head to head with Hopkins and beat Winky Wright. Quillin's claim to fame is a close win over N'Jikam, thus far. The problem is that Quillin's people haven't done jack for his career in the past year. While other middleweights are on the rise, Barker/GGG, even Geale in loss, Quillin's career stagnates. Heck, it even seems likes Hatton is doing a better job for Murray.

What in the world are you smoking? Quillin is the WBO champ. No one wants to fight.

The only fights out there that folks would take serious at this stage are fights with GGG/Ward (step up in weight) and Martinez. I think Murray would take the fight too. But Barker would duck and so would anyone else at MW and S-MW.

You must be the one who's smoking something. Noone would duck him after watching the N'dam fight. There's plent of good fights for him, his team just won't fork out the cash. Macklin, Murray, Stevens would all fight him

No one wants to see Mucklin fight anyone. ANYONE!!! Barker will duck. Stevens will duck- it's a no-win for him. High risk, low rewards.

Murray may take the fight. But other than the names I said, no one wants to get in their with Quillin. At least any name of real note. Which there aren't much at this stage.

Stevens who is fighting GGG would duck Quillin People won't fight Quillin cz he won't pay. Rosado was offered stupid money and that's a guy hell beat easy. Barker would fight him if the money was good but it ain't gonna be.

Macklin, Murray, Sturm, Geale, Lee, Chavez all credible opponents who would take the fight if money was right.

[Violent Demise]

"Right money" for these UK fighters is usually some ridiculous amount that there not even close to being worth

[Beanz]

"Right money" for these UK fighters is usually some ridiculous amount that there not even close to being worth

Well thats a crock of shit. Why don't you just be a man, admit you are just being an apologist for Quillin, and stop ducking the real crux of the argument. Fighters are worth what they can draw through the gate and by the amount of viewers who will tune in and watch. Quillin meanwhile sits on his hands while his promoters can't sell his overhyped arse for peanuts.

[Violent Demise]

"Right money" for these UK fighters is usually some ridiculous amount that there not even close to being worth

Well thats a crock of shit. Why don't you just be a man, admit you are just being an apologist for Quillin, and stop ducking the real crux of the argument. Fighters are worth what they can draw through the gate and by the amount of viewers who will tune in and watch. Quillin meanwhile sits on his hands while his promoters can't sell his overhyped arse for peanuts.

And how good do Barker, Macklin and Murray draw?

[Beanz]

"Right money" for these UK fighters is usually some ridiculous amount that there not even close to being worth

Well thats a crock of shit. Why don't you just be a man, admit you are just being an apologist for Quillin, and stop ducking the real crux of the argument. Fighters are worth what they can draw through the gate and by the amount of viewers who will tune in and watch. Quillin meanwhile sits on his hands while his promoters can't sell his overhyped arse for peanuts.

And how good do Barker, Macklin and Murray draw?

Can you repeat that in English ?

[Rantcatrat]

No, at least not yet. A prime JT went head to head with Hopkins and beat Winky Wright. Quillin's claim to fame is a close win over N'Jikam, thus far. The problem is that Quillin's people haven't done jack for his career in the past year. While other middleweights are on the rise, Barker/GGG, even Geale in loss, Quillin's career stagnates. Heck, it even seems likes Hatton is doing a better job for Murray.

What in the world are you smoking? Quillin is the WBO champ. No one wants to fight.

The only fights out there that folks would take serious at this stage are fights with GGG/Ward (step up in weight) and Martinez. I think Murray would take the fight too. But Barker would duck and so would anyone else at MW and S-MW.

Quillin is in an unfortunate position because most of the middleweight division is fighting on HBO these days and Golden Boy isn't offering enough money to make the rest of the division fight Quillin on Showtime. Mora has offered his services to Quillin. That's as good a fight as Quillin will get at middleweight right now.

Why would Barker duck Quillin if he got in the ring with Martinez and Geale? Makes no sense, especially after Quillin's performance against N'Dam, which was fine, but showed his limitations at the top level.

[p4pking]

No, but I think Taylor was only really great in a few fights, and we don't know whether Quillin likes getting knocked out as well yet. It's not really a fair question.

I'd also imagine that Murray, or certainly Barker, would be at least close to even money in a Quillin fight. "Kid chocolate" doesn't seem to have much of a following and those guys will get domestic support, simple as.

[ykdadamaja]

No, at least not yet. A prime JT went head to head with Hopkins and beat Winky Wright. Quillin's claim to fame is a close win over N'Jikam, thus far. The problem is that Quillin's people haven't done jack for his career in the past year. While other middleweights are on the rise, Barker/GGG, even Geale in loss, Quillin's career stagnates. Heck, it even seems likes Hatton is doing a better job for Murray.

What in the world are you smoking? Quillin is the WBO champ. No one wants to fight.

The only fights out there that folks would take serious at this stage are fights with GGG/Ward (step up in weight) and Martinez. I think Murray would take the fight too. But Barker would duck and so would anyone else at MW and S-MW.

Quillin is in an unfortunate position because most of the middleweight division is fighting on HBO these days and Golden Boy isn't offering enough money to make the rest of the division fight Quillin on Showtime. Mora has offered his services to Quillin. That's as good a fight as Quillin will get at middleweight right now.

Why would Barker duck Quillin if he got in the ring with Martinez and Geale? Makes no sense, especially after Quillin's performance against N'Dam, which was fine, but showed his limitations at the top level.

Quillin's power and grit... Martinez isn't power anymore. Geale is not ever a power puncher or someone to be afraid of. Quillin and GGG are.

I would take a fight against Andre Ward before I take a fight against Quillin or GGG.

[p4pking]

Geale can obviously punch enough, that body shot that dropped Barker was savage. Don't think I've seen Quillin hit with anything like that, he hasn't been in with great punchers himself.