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    Joe Louis was stopped by Max Schmeling June 1936 and never fought again for 18 months. Whereas Joe fought 7 times immediately after the defeat and a year later fought and won the title. The pair met for the return 2 years later but why did Joe get the title shot a head of Max?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Joe Louis was stopped by Max Schmeling June 1936 and never fought again for 18 months. Whereas Joe fought 7 times immediately after the defeat and a year later fought and won the title. The pair met for the return 2 years later but why did Joe get the title shot a head of Max?
    Can you add more information, please....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
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    Joe Louis was stopped by Max Schmeling June 1936 and never fought again for 18 months. Whereas Joe fought 7 times immediately after the defeat and a year later fought and won the title. The pair met for the return 2 years later but why did Joe get the title shot a head of Max?
    Can you add more information, please....
    What information do you want specifically more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Joe Louis was stopped by Max Schmeling June 1936 and never fought again for 18 months. Whereas Joe fought 7 times immediately after the defeat and a year later fought and won the title. The pair met for the return 2 years later but why did Joe get the title shot a head of Max?
    Can you add more information, please....
    What information do you want specifically more?

    Loser gets a title shot a year later, winner gets a title shot 2 years later.
    Title shot vs,. who? I'm not aware of the particular details on the chronology of the events of the Schmeling/Louis issue.
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    Joe Louis was stopped by Max Schmeling June 1936 and never fought again for 18 months. Whereas Joe fought 7 times immediately after the defeat and a year later fought and won the title. The pair met for the return 2 years later but why did Joe get the title shot a head of Max?
    Can you add more information, please....
    What information do you want specifically more?

    Loser gets a title shot a year later, winner gets a title shot 2 years later.
    Title shot vs,. who? I'm not aware of the particular details on the chronology of the events of the Schmeling/Louis issue.
    Jim Braddock was heavyweight champion and Joe got to fight him first.
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    Joe Louis was stopped by Max Schmeling June 1936 and never fought again for 18 months. Whereas Joe fought 7 times immediately after the defeat and a year later fought and won the title. The pair met for the return 2 years later but why did Joe get the title shot a head of Max?
    Can you add more information, please....
    What information do you want specifically more?

    Loser gets a title shot a year later, winner gets a title shot 2 years later.
    Title shot vs,. who? I'm not aware of the particular details on the chronology of the events of the Schmeling/Louis issue.
    Jim Braddock was heavyweight champion and Joe got to fight him first.
    ok,ok... I guess it depends on who was the crowd fav? Sometimes, and this is the way it was done before rankings and alphabet's ratings tampering, fights get made because fans want to see a certain fighter.
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    I noticed that Braddock won the title in June 1935 against Baer and did not defend it for 2 years until he faced Louis which is ridiculous!
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    Politics of the day. Blame Hitler

    In addition they never had the same ranking system they have today and the NBA was the world title.
    After Braddock beat Baer he never fought for two years until Louis. Did I mention pre world war politics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I noticed that Braddock won the title in June 1935 against Baer and did not defend it for 2 years until he faced Louis which is ridiculous!


    Braddock was after top Dollar. Louis' team offered the best terms, (in)famously part of the deal was a 10% cut of Louis' fights over the following decade.


    It was the 1930s, the champ called all the shots. No one would of taken a Schmeling Vs someone other than Braddock as a fight for the vacant title. Braddock knew the value of the title and although he lucked out in the length reign Louis would have, he and his team must of figured Louis could better everyone for the following few years, and with the USA returning to economic growth, that was going to be worth a cent or two.
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    I noticed that Braddock won the title in June 1935 against Baer and did not defend it for 2 years until he faced Louis which is ridiculous!


    Braddock was after top Dollar. Louis' team offered the best terms, (in)famously part of the deal was a 10% cut of Louis' fights over the following decade.


    It was the 1930s, the champ called all the shots. No one would of taken a Schmeling Vs someone other than Braddock as a fight for the vacant title. Braddock knew the value of the title and although he lucked out in the length reign Louis would have, he and his team must of figured Louis could better everyone for the following few years, and with the USA returning economic growth, that was going to be worth a cent or two.
    That type of deal seems criminal in these days....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
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    I noticed that Braddock won the title in June 1935 against Baer and did not defend it for 2 years until he faced Louis which is ridiculous!


    Braddock was after top Dollar. Louis' team offered the best terms, (in)famously part of the deal was a 10% cut of Louis' fights over the following decade.


    It was the 1930s, the champ called all the shots. No one would of taken a Schmeling Vs someone other than Braddock as a fight for the vacant title. Braddock knew the value of the title and although he lucked out in the length reign Louis would have, he and his team must of figured Louis could better everyone for the following few years, and with the USA returning economic growth, that was going to be worth a cent or two.
    That type of deal seems criminal in these days....
    I knew about the 10% cut which is a conflict of interest.

    Dempsey did the same with the title fighting very little once he had the title. Fans would never stand for that.

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    I'm not sure but maybe Joe was more marketable?



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    Given the political circumstances of the time MASTER I think it would have been very difficult, risky and somewhat undesirable to stage a title fight against Max Schmelling...

    Yes, blame Hitler!!
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    Max fought about 4 times after not fighting for 18 months from beating Joe, twice in Germany and twice in NewYork so it could not be because of Hitler, I think.
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    Joe Louis was 75 years old when he fought Rocky Marciano did you know
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