Mosley VS Forrest 1

[FinitoElDinamita]

What do you remember about this fight?

[Ron Swanson]

I'll go back and watch it to see if I remember it correctly. But as I recall the announcers thought far too highly of Shane. For most of the fight they commented about how Shane would turn it around rather than seeing what was really happening. It was the beginning of my understanding Shane was not an intelligent fighter and had no plan B.

[J_Undisputed]

Vernon telling everyone before the fight that he had shane's number, The clash of heads and Mosely going to pieces at the sight of his own blood. Mosely always had that nagging thought in the back of his mind that he wasn't invincible after that. He'd outclass most after that by being faster, or stronger but whenever he faces someone he knew could hurt him and catch him, he would start doing that touch gloves thing in the middle of the fight and rounds to see if sportsmanship could save him from a worse beating.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Vernon telling everyone before the fight that he had shane's number, The clash of heads and Mosely going to pieces at the sight of his own blood. Mosely always had that nagging thought in the back of his mind that he wasn't invincible after that. He'd outclass most after that by being faster, or stronger but whenever he faces someone he knew could hurt him and catch him, he would start doing that touch gloves thing in the middle of the fight and rounds to see if sportsmanship could save him from a worse beating.

Exactly what i was thinking.. the forrest beating really changed him imo because he developed that " excessive glove touching " thing as a result. Mosley used to have more of a mean streak inside the ring and even against forrest, he wasnt into all that kissing and hugging. He would walk back to his corner with a mean mug as if he couldnt wait to go back out there..

Forrest traumatized him.. he started doing the glove thing as if that was his way of making secret agreement like please dont hit me hard, please..

The loss turned him soft..

[Ron Swanson]

I remembered it all wrong. I wonder if last time I watched it I watched a different networks broadcast. It's either that or my memory is crap.

I remembered it as a tremendous performance by Vernon but having rewatched it Shane was clueless. It is every bit as much an indictment of Shane as an achievement by Vernon. Not nearly as good as it had become in my head.

[J_Undisputed]

Ron, I think a lot of people remember it that way. Mosely was supposed to the star and Forrest was supposed to be good, but not better than Shane. In the lead up there was the mention of the Amateur wins that Forrest held over Shane to get some extra interest with the unsettled score inference. Forrest of course played it up and it seemed to get under Shane's skin a little. Shane would of course rebut with the "that was then, this is now.. I'm better as a pro" type arguments as anyone would expect.

Once they got in the ring, Vernon's height, reach and Jab gave shane the problems vernon predicted and a lot of people were wondering what was shane doing wrong rather than what vernon was doing right, at first. Then the clash of heads and mosely bleeds and freaks. Vernon hits him with that uppercut from hell along the ropes and then pummels him to the floor (for the first time mosely tasted canvas) and everyone flew out of their seats started singing Venons praises as a giant killer with that performance. Till mayorga came along had everyone scratching their heads with his victories over Vernon.

[J_Undisputed]

Vernon telling everyone before the fight that he had shane's number, The clash of heads and Mosely going to pieces at the sight of his own blood. Mosely always had that nagging thought in the back of his mind that he wasn't invincible after that. He'd outclass most after that by being faster, or stronger but whenever he faces someone he knew could hurt him and catch him, he would start doing that touch gloves thing in the middle of the fight and rounds to see if sportsmanship could save him from a worse beating.

Exactly what i was thinking.. the forrest beating really changed him imo because he developed that " excessive glove touching " thing as a result. Mosley used to have more of a mean streak inside the ring and even against forrest, he wasnt into all that kissing and hugging. He would walk back to his corner with a mean mug as if he couldnt wait to go back out there..

Forrest traumatized him.. he started doing the glove thing as if that was his way of making secret agreement like please dont hit me hard, please..

The loss turned him soft..

Also keep in mind that there were rifts starting between him and his father I think around that time. Jack Mosely stood there with his mouth on the ground when shane dropped by vernon... and Jack's "power boxing" style were also causing problems for Shane (as shane's wide hooking style left him open for the shots down the middle -- like vernon's), because jacks ego couldn't admit that jack couldn't make a boxer puncher out of anyone.

[Master]

I had Shane in control until a head clash and then a knock down which rarely happened against Mosley. He could not handle the height and reach of Forrest.

The second fight was awful, Vernon was holding as soon as Mosley came close.