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    Default GGG is too strong for the MW Division!

    Well, I think this is becoming patently obvious now. He can make weight. He has the size, but he will never be able to find competition that can match BOTH his skill level and strength. He has to move up to Super Middle.

    I see him having at least three more fights at MW. At best. Hopefully it will be Quillin, Lee or Cotto/Alvarez. Anyone else, while it may be appealing, would be a waste of everyone's time.

    GGG has to move on. The Super Middle's may be a better place to see a better fight.

    As for Lemeiux, he did nothing wrong other than be forced into fighting on the outside. He could not get in for fear he would be hit. Those early jabs put the fear of pain in him....

    He is a good fighter. One of the top 5 in the division. Worthy opposition, for what it's worth. But, GGG was just too strong, and in Lemieux's case, too big.
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    It isn't GGG's fault that MW is so weak, but it reminds me a bit of Calzaghe at SMW or Hopkins at MW. Hopkins eventually just got too weak and old to go 12 at MW and Calzaghe had to move up to find some names. GGG is in a similar boat. Either he stays and dominates at MW for the next 5 years or else he finds a smaller man to fill up and meet him or he moves up himself. I can understand the desire for him to go up and beat Ward, but if GGG is really comfortable at MW, then why not just reign supreme there? It's a bit frustrating as a fan to have him fight relatively easy fights like this one, but it seems to be the best MW has at the moment. It happens in boxing. Divisions have their lulls and then 4 or 5 new guys start to make something happen. They duke it out and the lull starts again. A division is cyclical somewhat akin to the earths orbit around the star at the center of this particular solar system within the confines of a galaxy hurtling deep into the computer screen of a nerd who isn't even paying any attention. MW will bounce back and GGG will either be at SMW or a little bit older and more beatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    It isn't GGG's fault that MW is so weak, but it reminds me a bit of Calzaghe at SMW or Hopkins at MW. Hopkins eventually just got too weak and old to go 12 at MW and Calzaghe had to move up to find some names. GGG is in a similar boat. Either he stays and dominates at MW for the next 5 years or else he finds a smaller man to fill up and meet him or he moves up himself. I can understand the desire for him to go up and beat Ward, but if GGG is really comfortable at MW, then why not just reign supreme there? It's a bit frustrating as a fan to have him fight relatively easy fights like this one, but it seems to be the best MW has at the moment. It happens in boxing. Divisions have their lulls and then 4 or 5 new guys start to make something happen. They duke it out and the lull starts again. A division is cyclical somewhat akin to the earths orbit around the star at the center of this particular solar system within the confines of a galaxy hurtling deep into the computer screen of a nerd who isn't even paying any attention. MW will bounce back and GGG will either be at SMW or a little bit older and more beatable.
    Look through MWs history and you will see far more down times than up times.

    As for Lemieux being top 5 as stated in the OP, perhaps, but we have no proof of that. He hasn't beaten other top guys to say he surely is. It's purely speculative. I think in the long run we find out he is quite limited but can punch, similar to Lee, similar to Quillen. It's also possible that those guys would beat Lemiex, and possible others. Let's not build him up, let his fights speak for themselves. I think GGGs opponents have had enough building up. Let's just look at what they do. GGG most of us would say is a rare talent, let's see if he proves it. Let's not give him anything, if he is as good as we think he will take it.

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    if he went up to SMW who would stand in his way?

    the ward fight will never happen
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    The only middleweight that I think would have given him trouble would be Dmitry Pirog, but he has since retired due to a bad back which is a big shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    if he went up to SMW who would stand in his way?

    the ward fight will never happen
    GGG says he is not a businessman but he definitely wants the money and is every businessman's stairway to heaven. I think he will start testing the waters in the next year or two, as it was obvious PPV is his dream come true. Why not do a catch weight to see how it goes, especially if it's on another PPV card?
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    I think GGG's resume at middleweight could still use another big name, the winner of Cotto-Canelo will do, and then test 168 or vs the winner of Jacobs-Quillen, and then maybe Andre Ward at 168?

    GGG has plenty of options...he could stay at 160 and rule for a good long while until someone younger and bigger comes along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    if he went up to SMW who would stand in his way?

    the ward fight will never happen
    GGG says he is not a businessman but he definitely wants the money and is every businessman's stairway to heaven. I think he will start testing the waters in the next year or two, as it was obvious PPV is his dream come true. Why not do a catch weight to see how it goes, especially if it's on another PPV card?
    He is in the position every fighter prays for, everything he does makes big money!
    dont get me wrong id love to see it, i think GGG would have it tomorrow, i dont think ward would

    i would be highly surprised if ward agrees to the fight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    It isn't GGG's fault that MW is so weak, but it reminds me a bit of Calzaghe at SMW or Hopkins at MW. Hopkins eventually just got too weak and old to go 12 at MW and Calzaghe had to move up to find some names. GGG is in a similar boat. Either he stays and dominates at MW for the next 5 years or else he finds a smaller man to fill up and meet him or he moves up himself. I can understand the desire for him to go up and beat Ward, but if GGG is really comfortable at MW, then why not just reign supreme there? It's a bit frustrating as a fan to have him fight relatively easy fights like this one, but it seems to be the best MW has at the moment. It happens in boxing. Divisions have their lulls and then 4 or 5 new guys start to make something happen. They duke it out and the lull starts again. A division is cyclical somewhat akin to the earths orbit around the star at the center of this particular solar system within the confines of a galaxy hurtling deep into the computer screen of a nerd who isn't even paying any attention. MW will bounce back and GGG will either be at SMW or a little bit older and more beatable.
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