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    Default Did Joshua win a title too early?

    I think Joshua won a title too early in his career. He still had a lot to learn when he beat Martin, and now that he's a champion, there's a lot of pressure on him to perform well in every fight. The Parker fight showed that he's still a work in progress.

    I think that fighters these days are rushed into winning a title before they've fully grown as a fighter.

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    Default Re: Did Joshua win a title too early?

    I know what you are saying. He won when still a work in progress but as I said in another thread the current heavyweight landscape makes that possible so hardly his fault and once he'd won it he can go ppv and sell out stadiums as he is doing.

    So wtf. Let him get on with it. We'd do same.

    Wouldn't have been possible twenty years ago but that was then....
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    Default Re: Did Joshua win a title too early?

    Nope, if you are good enough you are old enough, it is down to the rest of the division to take the belts off him regardless of if he is a work in progress.

    Also what is it saying about the rest of the division when the man who has all but one of the belts is still seen as a work in progress.

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    Default Re: Did Joshua win a title too early?

    He’s 28 years old! If he’s good enough to win the title and lucky enough that his team can get him a shot, how can it be too early? I don’t think his bank balance thinks it’s too early. When did Floyd win a title,was it his 9th fight?
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    Default Re: Did Joshua win a title too early?

    It would have been early in the oldern days when there were better fighters and you had to earn your way to the title.

    Now AJ had to go for the title with the piss poor champions holding the belts.

    Mckraken said the Wlad fight was 3 fights too soon.

    Anyway he has the title, selling out stadiums, earning millions and beating poor challengers. Better him than anyone else doing it.
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    Default Re: Did Joshua win a title too early?

    Better question is how easy is it to win a title. He took a title from Martin who himself was unproven and won it on a bogus "KO" over a guy with a torn ACL. A literal belt warmer and easy mark to import for a star waiting in the wings with huge push. AJ has all the comforts of home and if there is a hang up that hinders him it may be that rather than any gift wrapped trinket. His skillset is there and was shined up in his real title win vs Wlad a year later. That was his proving ground. It unfolded as a championship battle should and there's no going backwards after that.

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    Default Re: Did Joshua win a title too early?

    For gawds sake shut the funk up about "the good old days." The heavyweights are rubbish today was the spiel in the 80s, then the 90s, then the Wlad era, now today. Always someone waffling about when boxing was better.

    7-0-1 Leon Spinks (WBC)
    19-5 Bonecruser Smith (WBA)
    21-9 Mike Weaver (WBA)
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    Berbick, Thomas, Douglas, Tubbs, Morrison, Hide, Seldon, Akinwande, Rahman, Norris, etc, etc, etc. The fighters back then were no better than today. What made them so good apart from you saw your heroes twat them?

    You'd think it was April Fools if most were wheeled out for AJ today. Fury, Ortiz, Povetkin, Wilder, Fury, Miller, Whyte, Takam, Pulev, Del Boy, Breazeale etc? Do you honestly think they couldn't compete with the men Tyson, Holmes, Holyfield, Lennox beat? Laughable.
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    Default Re: Did Joshua win a title too early?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    For gawds sake shut the funk up about "the good old days." The heavyweights are rubbish today was the spiel in the 80s, then the 90s, then the Wlad era, now today. Always someone waffling about when boxing was better.

    7-0-1 Leon Spinks (WBC)
    19-5 Bonecruser Smith (WBA)
    21-9 Mike Weaver (WBA)
    10-1 Michael Bentt (WBO)
    Berbick, Thomas, Douglas, Tubbs, Morrison, Hide, Seldon, Akinwande, Rahman, Norris, etc, etc, etc. The fighters back then were no better than today. What made them so good apart from you saw your heroes twat them?

    You'd think it was April Fools if most were wheeled out for AJ today. Fury, Ortiz, Povetkin, Wilder, Fury, Miller, Whyte, Takam, Pulev, Del Boy, Breazeale etc? Do you honestly think they couldn't compete with the men Tyson, Holmes, Holyfield, Lennox beat? Laughable.
    Depending what era you are talking about. The first list you had are people from the 80’s, 90’s, and 2000’s. And they aren’t the best ones from the eras either. You just picked some random people. The HW division has admittedly been notoriously weak throughout history with some random good times.

    I think the 90’s and early 2000’s were definitely better than today. I don’t think it’s that debatable. 90”s was pretty strong while early 2000’s were decent. Just looking at the top fighters in the 90’s with Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, and Bowe, they are head and shoulders above what we have now. Bowe was just a bit insane but talent wise still much better. Even an old Foreman I don’t at all see losing to AJ or Wilder. Too good of a chin and hit too hard. I think that AJ and Wilder would be relevant in that era but relevant like Tommy Morrison was relevant.

    But to answer the OP, AJ didn’t win the title too early. If you are good enough to win it, it isn’t too early. That’s boxing. You take what you get. If I walked in the ring tomorrow and beat a champion then I was ready.

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