Who is lying?

[imp]

I’m starting to warm to Wilder..if he makes the fight with Fury then I think AJ does loose a bit of credibility.

The 3 best heavyweights are Fury, AJ and Wilder...which team is lying and who really wants to be the best heavyweight in the world.

I think Fury is the better boxer and can outbox the pair of them...the only thing is does he need a couple of more fights to put him in a better place.

Wilder is the most aggressive and AJ is starting to get a bit to comfortable behind the jab.

Discuss your favourite out of the three and what each one has to do to win and who you believe wants it all.

[sanatogen]

Hasnt Wilder already said the fight could be made this year?

So we have a situation where Fury said he wants it, Wilder says it , Frank Warren says it. Just need some signatures on contracts.

How easy has making this fight sounded on MSM, compared to Joshua vs Wilder being made?

[ruthless rocco]

They're all lying.

The #1 priority is making the maximum money possible.
Sincerely attempting to lay claim to being the best heavyweight boxer in 2018 is a sad pathetic farce. But they still have to say they wanna be the greatest boxer to sucker all the nimrod fans into buying the fights; and thereby making them the maximum money possible.

They don't want to be the greatest. They don't want fight each other. They don't want to lose. They don't want to be KO'd. They want money. Your money--you stupid heavyweight loving donkeys.

[Master]

AJ is the best of the 3 in terms of being a stable champion, respectful, professional and fighting the best available.

Wilder is raw and unpredictable with exciting power.

Fury is the most unauthodox of them and could beat everyone if he was everything AJ is but he is not.

[TAPugil]

I stayed away from judging AJ, until now!

I think AJ has the better skill set, but it seems his team overplayed their hand. Fury & Wilder both accuse AJ's team of fouling up negotiations. Initially I thought it was a bit of both teams.

It also seems fundamentals are no longer the measure of a great champ. After all, a fighter who throws straight, picks his punches, sets up with the jab is somewhat predictable, no how matter how great, how fast.
On the other hand, punches coming from weird angles, throwing off the back foot, awkward movement is why Fury said this was his most difficult fight, regardless that Klitschko is miles better than Wilder.

As quick as this is about to get signed, really makes AJ's team look all the more guilty. Joshua isn't afraid, he just had a team that didn't anticipate Fury would be contacted and agree with no haggling.

Winner of this fight controls negotiations no matter how many belts AJ has.

[TitoFan]

I stayed away from judging AJ, until now!

I think AJ has the better skill set, but it seems his team overplayed their hand. Fury & Wilder both accuse AJ's team of fouling up negotiations. Initially I thought it was a bit of both teams.

It also seems fundamentals are no longer the measure of a great champ. After all, a fighter who throws straight, picks his punches, sets up with the jab is somewhat predictable, no how matter how great, how fast.
On the other hand, punches coming from weird angles, throwing off the back foot, awkward movement is why Fury said this was his most difficult fight, regardless that Klitschko is miles better than Wilder.

As quick as this is about to get signed, really makes AJ's team look all the more guilty. Joshua isn't afraid, he just had a team that didn't anticipate Fury would be contacted and agree with no haggling.

Winner of this fight controls negotiations no matter how many belts AJ has.

If Wilder beats Fury, especially convincingly, he'll bring more to the table at the next go-round with Hearn and AJ. He can basically tell Hearn to go f*ck himself and the scraps Hearn was first seeking to stick Wilder with.

Yes, I agree AJ's team failed to anticipate Wilder-Fury being made so quickly and easily. Does make AJ look foolish and even a little scared, even if he truly isn't.

I'm not a Fury fan, but I'm happy he stepped up and filled the void being made by the frustrating negotiations between AJ and Wilder.

[Fenster]

Regardless of who's lying AJ has fought stronger opposition than Wilder and Fury put together.

AJ's best five opponents to date

Wlad
Parker
Whyte
Povetkin*
Takam/Breazeale

Wilder's best five

Ortiz
Stiverne
Arreola
Duhaupas
Molina/Scott

Fury's best five

Wlad
Chisora
Cunningham
Hammer
Kingpin/Fat John

Name THREE fighters from Wilder and Fury's opposition combined who can replace names on AJ's record? I'll start with Ortiz.

Next?

[Gandalf]

Wilder would fight all of them Fenster and tried to fight Povetkin. Wilder is the hungry one of the 3. One ballooned up to the size of a brontosaurus, the other fights safety first. Meanwhile Wilder knocks people out. He is the dangerous fighter of the 3 and will overwhelm both IMO. It's like with Prime Pac, you can try and outbox him but he is going to explode and put you down several times along the way. Wilder just needs to connect and they fall.

[nuggetdotcom]

Regardless of who's lying AJ has fought stronger opposition than Wilder and Fury put together.

AJ's best five opponents to date

Wlad
Parker
Whyte
Povetkin*
Takam/Breazeale

Wilder's best five

Ortiz
Stiverne
Arreola
Duhaupas
Molina/Scott

Fury's best five

Wlad
Chisora
Cunningham
Hammer
Kingpin/Fat John

Name THREE fighters from Wilder and Fury's opposition combined who can replace names on AJ's record? I'll start with Ortiz.

Next?

Not disputing the fact that AJ's conquests look better, but the now fact is that Fury has stepped in first, albeit risky to some, to fight Wilder, who in my humble opinion is a hype job who cannot box. Fair gamble I would say.