Most frustrating negotiations in boxing history

[TitoFan]

Part of what us boxing fans are forced to live with, are the ridiculously frustrating negotiations that sometimes occur between superstar fighters. Whether it's the promoters, the fighters themselves, whatever. These processes sometimes take years and years (sucking the excitement out these prospective fights)... and sometimes end up never happening at all. Throughout history, which fights do you consider the most maddening and frustrating as far as the negotiations are concerned? Whether the fight happened or not. I'll begin by throwing three out there for consideration.


1. Floyd-Pac: It finally happened... but years after the expiration date. Us fans were forced to finally settle for an inferior version of what should've been a once-in-a-millennium fight.

2. Wilder-Joshua: I've said it on another thread and I'll say it on this one. I couldn't care less, nor do I have the inside scoop to say who's fault it was. But the negotiations for this fight got so frustrating it made some fans want to fly over and slap some people around. Finally... in came Tyson Fury and saved the day by taking on Wilder.

3. Spence-Crawford: This one is rapidly approaching "I don't care if ever happens" territory. I see more back-and-forth on Facebook than we'll probably see in the fight itself IF... it ever happens.


They leave us hanging... and having pointless arguments with each other over who's ducking whom. Rich.



Any other fights in this category?

[Master]

Floyd v Paç Man was the biggest waste of time ever in the history of boxing.

Tyson v Spinks took some time to get made with Tyson clearing up the belts whilst Spinks took the novelty fights.

Bowe avoided Lennox and when he was ready Lewis lost the title.

Roy Jones v Benn/Eubank was mooted but never materialised.

Maybe the fighter's are getting too much for easier defences and not enough for the riskier fights?

[mikeeod]

Manny vs Floyd
BHOP vs Roy (2002-2004)
Bowe vs Lewis
Spence vs Crawford

[Master]

Calzaghe could not agree to face Ottko when he would have beaten him easily. Tarnished his name for me as Sven unified titles in front of Joe making him look second rate.

Hopkins used Calzaghe instead of facing him at super middleweight because he preferred to move to light heavyweight and take on Tarver.

Eubank and Benn would not even entertain taking on Herol Graham as he would humiliate them.

Hagler v Hearns 2 could not be agreed which was a shame.

Tyson v Holyfield, before he went to jail, was a drama and I feel team Holyfield were glad he was imprisoned.

[mikeeod]

Calzaghe could not agree to face Ottko when he would have beaten him easily. Tarnished his name for me as Sven unified titles in front of Joe making him look second rate.

Hopkins used Calzaghe instead of facing him at super middleweight because he preferred to move to light heavyweight and take on Tarver.

Eubank and Benn would not even entertain taking on Herol Graham as he would humiliate them.

Hagler v Hearns 2 could not be agreed which was a shame.

Tyson v Holyfield, before he went to jail, was a drama and I feel team Holyfield were glad he was imprisoned.

Evander moved up to fight Tyson specifically. Tyson was supposed to fight him after Douglas but lost, and then was supposed to fight him again but went to prison. If anything Evander was upset because he wanted the legitimacy and paydays a Tyson win would bring him. If there is one guy who never ducked anyone it is Evander- he always sought out the toughest competition and always had a “thing” for Tyson specifically. I don’t see any way you can come to the conclusion that Evander was part of any drama in any of those lead ups or negotiations.

[Master]

Calzaghe could not agree to face Ottko when he would have beaten him easily. Tarnished his name for me as Sven unified titles in front of Joe making him look second rate.

Hopkins used Calzaghe instead of facing him at super middleweight because he preferred to move to light heavyweight and take on Tarver.

Eubank and Benn would not even entertain taking on Herol Graham as he would humiliate them.

Hagler v Hearns 2 could not be agreed which was a shame.

Tyson v Holyfield, before he went to jail, was a drama and I feel team Holyfield were glad he was imprisoned.

Evander moved up to fight Tyson specifically. Tyson was supposed to fight him after Douglas but lost, and then was supposed to fight him again but went to prison. If anything Evander was upset because he wanted the legitimacy and paydays a Tyson win would bring him. If there is one guy who never ducked anyone it is Evander- he always sought out the toughest competition and always had a “thing” for Tyson specifically. I don’t see any way you can come to the conclusion that Evander was part of any drama in any of those lead ups or negotiations.

I agree Holyfield would take the fight to Tyson but "Team" Holyfield which had the Duva's would not have minded avoiding Tyson. They took on Foreman because the Tyson fight could not be agreed.

I feel that Tyson, pre-jail, would have beaten the lighter and less musclebound Holyfield.

[ykdadamaja]

Part of what us boxing fans are forced to live with, are the ridiculously frustrating negotiations that sometimes occur between superstar fighters. Whether it's the promoters, the fighters themselves, whatever. These processes sometimes take years and years (sucking the excitement out these prospective fights)... and sometimes end up never happening at all. Throughout history, which fights do you consider the most maddening and frustrating as far as the negotiations are concerned? Whether the fight happened or not. I'll begin by throwing three out there for consideration.


1. Floyd-Pac: It finally happened... but years after the expiration date. Us fans were forced to finally settle for an inferior version of what should've been a once-in-a-millennium fight.

2. Wilder-Joshua: I've said it on another thread and I'll say it on this one. I couldn't care less, nor do I have the inside scoop to say who's fault it was. But the negotiations for this fight got so frustrating it made some fans want to fly over and slap some people around. Finally... in came Tyson Fury and saved the day by taking on Wilder.

3. Spence-Crawford: This one is rapidly approaching "I don't care if ever happens" territory. I see more back-and-forth on Facebook than we'll probably see in the fight itself IF... it ever happens.


They leave us hanging... and having pointless arguments with each other over who's ducking whom. Rich.



Any other fights in this category?

But Spence is the only side talking now. Crawford's people aren't saying a thing. I could have sworn this could have been made for this November. It was so close and then it fell apart.

[Primo Carnera]

What intrigues me is that these guys fight so infrequently nowadays so they aren’t earning. You would think they would jump at the deal.

[imp]

We should boycott Spence and Crawford until they fight each other.

Sick of the pair of them.

Crawford should be the one to bend and accept the terms like Haney did.

Spence moves up to 154 and Crawford picks up the crumbs at 147.

[TIC]

We should boycott Spence and Crawford until they fight each other.

errol v bud might now get even more far away, if ever. jaron ennis & eimantas stanionis will be pushing mandatories soon