Thread: Pacquiao talking bollox....

Originally Posted by The Promoter

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by The Promoter

Did you listen to the interview? It's goes right to the matter Floyd is demanding blood tests up until 14 days prior while Manny agreed to 24 days prior, its a game by PBF becuase he knows Manny is superstitious. They are not using the testing I listed above which could clearly be given every day for 20 days prior to fight time and catch ANY cheating. The drugs he is referring to that could clear in 1 day are none hormonal (but even so could be tested for), steroids are hormonal and would not even be effective if they cleared in one day. Worst case a hair analysis could be done on either fighter the day of the fight to see if any banned substance was ever taken. Conte suggests random testing prior to fight time and Manny agreed to urinalysis everyday. These are two guys fighting for 10's of millions of dollars and 40k worth of testing for the last 20 days should not be a big deal. It's not like the Olympics where thousands of athletes need to be tested at a potential cost of 100's of millions, so testing is random and not full spectrum.

superstitious of what?

Right or wrong a lot of people think having any sort of blood taken weakens them...I have some old relatives from Europe who come up with even more bizzare shit than this...Not saying right or wrong just saying he's superstitious and has offered other (just as valid) alternatives to taking blood...Why is Floyd so insistent on having blood drawn?...Boxing News 24 has a pretty good read on Manny's superstition...

Of Superstition & Old Wives’ Tales: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather

I really don't care about Pacquiao's feelings or superstitions. He's taken blood tests before, he took one for this fight with Clottey with no issue, and then less than a week later this video comes out with him saying he felt the blood test would give Mayweather an advantage because he's bigger, of course Clottey is going to weigh 15-20 pounds more than Mayweather would have. But none of this matters. You aren't going to convince me of your view and I'm certainly not going to convince you of my views. The fact is that these views have been presented at great length in thousands of posts, in dozens of threads. Not really any point in duscussing it further. The fight isn't going to happen and that's fine there's a whole line up of great fights coming up that I don't have to listen to two diva's whining about conspiracies and superstitions. I don't take either fighters side anymore, they're both divas. Screw them and screw doing damage control, it's not worth it. We have Berto/Quintana, Cunningham/Godfrey, Latimore/Powell II, Arreola/Adamek, Maidana/Cayo, Guzman/Funeka II, Caballero/Yordan, Pavlik/Martinez, Angulo/Julio, Ortiz/Campbell, Pascal/Dawson, The Super Six fights, Vazquez/Marquez IV, Perez/Mares, Macklin/Ghevor, and hopefully Hasegawa/Montiel. All of those fights are great, they're all coming up soon, you don't have to pay for PPV and you don't have to pull up any tabloid internet articles to justify why they aren't fighting each other, they're just going to fight.

Don't we have a Pacquiao/ Mayweather board for this sort of drool

the thread is about an interview manny pacquiao did a week ago. There have previously been no threads regarding that interview.

For a 'dead' topic there is still a very alive amount of discussion.

Originally Posted by The Promoter

Originally Posted by Nameless

Originally Posted by The Promoter

I'm speaking Medical Reality, what PED's are you talking about? Manny's being accused of steroids(basically). Any Steroid or Pro-hormone would be caught within a 30 day window of urine tests and a post fight blood test, the urinalysis is a simple $450 test administered to suspect High School athletes today. Are you saying that if he was clean up until a month prior and then started Juicing for the month prior he would have no weight gain, that would cause suspicion?

Sorry, I don't look at other posts as fact simply because I agree with them. In case you want to know what Urine tests would catch a "cheater" during the month look up ;
Liquid Chromatography Mass Spectrometry (LC/MS/MS)
Gas Chromatography Mass Spectrometry (GC/MS)

Again stop being so played by PBF.....

Modern peds are far too complicated to be found only via urine, hence why the Olympic system uses as well blood test, this is also valid for the newest and most sophisticated Human growth hormones. Here's what Victor Conte, the mastermind behind the "clear" from Balco laboratories has to say about it: Drug testing in boxing - BBC Radio interview with Victor Conte and Steve Bunce from yesterday... - Bad Left Hook

Did you listen to the interview? It's goes right to the matter Floyd is demanding blood tests up until 14 days prior while Manny agreed to 24 days prior, its a game by PBF becuase he knows Manny is superstitious. They are not using the testing I listed above which could clearly be given every day for 20 days prior to fight time and catch ANY cheating. The drugs he is referring to that could clear in 1 day are none hormonal (but even so could be tested for), steroids are hormonal and would not even be effective if they cleared in one day. Worst case a hair analysis could be done on either fighter the day of the fight to see if any banned substance was ever taken. Conte suggests random testing prior to fight time and Manny agreed to urinalysis everyday. These are two guys fighting for 10's of millions of dollars and 40k worth of testing for the last 20 days should not be a big deal. It's not like the Olympics where thousands of athletes need to be tested at a potential cost of 100's of millions, so testing is random and not full spectrum.

I did, and if YOU did it well, he explained that it could be cleared within 5 days and still have effects, hence why the boxing instance should change their system. Today, blood draws are necessary to have the full combo test, every olympians are doing so and for a reason: because it's where the best steroids are, by these days, found and mostly developed. The "needle" thing and superstition are just an empty excuses, Manny can lose blood while getting tattooed but not via a blood draw? are you laughing at me or what? only urine isn't enough to detect everything, all the biggest specialists agree on it, We've copied tons of sources here before on that matter, is that so hard to understand or what?

Originally Posted by Nameless

Originally Posted by The Promoter

Originally Posted by Nameless

Modern peds are far too complicated to be found only via urine, hence why the Olympic system uses as well blood test, this is also valid for the newest and most sophisticated Human growth hormones. Here's what Victor Conte, the mastermind behind the "clear" from Balco laboratories has to say about it: Drug testing in boxing - BBC Radio interview with Victor Conte and Steve Bunce from yesterday... - Bad Left Hook

Did you listen to the interview? It's goes right to the matter Floyd is demanding blood tests up until 14 days prior while Manny agreed to 24 days prior, its a game by PBF becuase he knows Manny is superstitious. They are not using the testing I listed above which could clearly be given every day for 20 days prior to fight time and catch ANY cheating. The drugs he is referring to that could clear in 1 day are none hormonal (but even so could be tested for), steroids are hormonal and would not even be effective if they cleared in one day. Worst case a hair analysis could be done on either fighter the day of the fight to see if any banned substance was ever taken. Conte suggests random testing prior to fight time and Manny agreed to urinalysis everyday. These are two guys fighting for 10's of millions of dollars and 40k worth of testing for the last 20 days should not be a big deal. It's not like the Olympics where thousands of athletes need to be tested at a potential cost of 100's of millions, so testing is random and not full spectrum.

I did, and if YOU did it well, he explained that it could be cleared within 5 days and still have effects, hence why the boxing instance should change their system. Today, blood draws are necessary to have the full combo test, every olympians are doing so and for a reason: because it's where the best steroids are, by these days, found and mostly developed. The "needle" thing and superstition are just an empty excuses, Manny can lose blood while getting tattooed but not via a blood draw? are you laughing at me or what? only urine isn't enough to detect everything, all the biggest specialists agree on it, We've copied tons of sources here before on that matter, is that so hard to understand or what?

Those PED's he's describing are not Steroids, go to ANY gym find the biggest guys and ask if ANY steroid will have benefits within 5 days...It's ridiculous that you would even suggest that. Olympians are tested for everything randomly from asthma inhalers, cold syrups, blood doping, legal and illegal narcotics, blood comparison testing and even excess caffeine...You really don't know enough about drug testing, again research:

Liquid Chromatography Mass Spectrometry (LC/MS/MS)
Gas Chromatography Mass Spectrometry (GC/MS)

Which could be performed on Urine, Hair and even Spit with the same accuracy as blood tests for steroids...Again we are talking about blood test up to a month before, Urine, hair,Spit, whatever for the month preceding and a blood test immediately following...This would still be the MOST thorough testing EVER conducting for a boxing event in history!

Originally Posted by Jimboogie

Originally Posted by Jimboogie

Still posting on dead topics....

But the main thing this post says to me is that you're in desperate need of sex..... or a life.... more than likely both....

Originally Posted by Hornfinger

Originally Posted by Jimboogie

Still posting on dead topics....

But the main thing this post says to me is that you're in desperate need of sex..... or a life.... more than likely both....

seems somebody got his panties in a bunch....

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by Hornfinger

Originally Posted by Jimboogie

Still posting on dead topics....

But the main thing this post says to me is that you're in desperate need of sex..... or a life.... more than likely both....

seems somebody got his panties in a bunch....

I know, fancy spending time making a pie chart in a vague attempt to ridicule....

As I say though, for one reason or another, some people have far too much time on their hands.

Well to be honest there is 1 person here that talks about Pacquiao and drugs in almost every topic that doesn't even concern the guy. Take the Ricky Hatton thread, part of it turn into another Pacquiao and drugs thread.

Well it ain't me.... unless of course your into twisting what I say and blowing certain facts out of proportion.....

Originally Posted by Hornfinger

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by Hornfinger

Still posting on dead topics....

But the main thing this post says to me is that you're in desperate need of sex..... or a life.... more than likely both....

seems somebody got his panties in a bunch....

I know, fancy spending time making a pie chart in a vague attempt to ridicule....

As I say though, for one reason or another, some people have far too much time on their hands.

UMMMMM ....I may be speaking for myself here but fact that we are sitting on a forum posting for an extended period of time in one day kind of says

"AT THE MOMENT WE HAVE NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT TO DO"

Or we would be doing it

Haha Honrnfinger, don't get all emotional on me. I'm a Photoshop wizard, that shit is like making paper aeroplanes to a origami specialist. And yes Daxx is bang on. It's kinda ironic that i do 90% of my posting at work.

If it ain't this, it's porn

Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Originally Posted by Hornfinger

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

seems somebody got his panties in a bunch....

I know, fancy spending time making a pie chart in a vague attempt to ridicule....

As I say though, for one reason or another, some people have far too much time on their hands.

UMMMMM ....I may be speaking for myself here but fact that we are sitting on a forum posting for an extended period of time in one day kind of says

"AT THE MOMENT WE HAVE NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT TO DO"

Or we would be doing it

exactly lol won't let me rep you but well when i can i will