Thread: Do you think Pac is on Peds?

I am interested to see who thinks he is on peds and who thinks he is not on peds.

Please vote.

I don't think he is any more or less medically enhanced than any other top-level boxer.

Originally Posted by CFH

I don't think he is any more or less medically enhanced than any other top-level boxer.

Dang CFH right when I posted this thread you already have a comment

Super MOD powers are awesome!

Has he ever tested positive for anything? I believe not.

If he ever does i'll re-evaluate his career. Until then he is a modern-day legend that doesn't deserve these drug accusations.

(mafiajoeydeacon will be fuming)

I am suspicious, I can't help but be suspicious. He refused to do a drug test originally and cited all kinds of weird excuses. And to cap it all he has gone up in weight carrying not only his speed, but seemingly a lot more power. He has been knocking people out cold or else breaking orbital bones (twice) and now he has gone and hit Mosley in a way that he has never felt before. Manny is either supernatural or else using PED's. I even have my doubts whether Superman could stand up to him now.

i was suspicious...until this "new evidence" came out, and made me realize how silly all this is

regardless of whether he is using or not and natural ability aside, as Miles has stated it is highly unusual for any athlete to move up in weight and keep the same speed - if not more so AND increase their power. It just doesn't happen.

i dunno

his refusal excuses were suspicious and i dont buy the bowing to floyds demand argument

im not voting tho coz im not sure and im not anti pacman

He's already been tested a number of times for substances and came out clean. Most of the drugs that is being used by athletes doesn't work for boxers. If you want to do a little reading do some searching for "Confessions of a Steroid user" and the like. The reason I suggest it is because it is the only source of information that is not tainted by opinion or wanting to sell you something and dispense of the myths being created by rumor. So unless someone can point out some tangible evidence, I don't see any reason to believe he does.

And I am abstaining from voting as I am suspicious and nothing more. There is just something not right about Manny Pac, but I cannot say he is on them as it is just a hunch. I would need more concrete evidence rather than pointers indicating that it just might be the case.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Of course my imagination carries no weight, nor should it.

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

regardless of whether he is using or not and natural ability aside, as Miles has stated it is highly unusual for any athlete to move up in weight and keep the same speed - if not more so AND increase their power. It just doesn't happen.

Actually in boxing there are several historical examples. Jimmy McLarnin started at 112 and won the 147 crown with a KO1. Sam Langfrod began at 135 and KO'd HOF heavyweights. Mickey Walker began at lightweight and KO'd ranked heavies. George Carpentier fought in every division that existed.

It is rare, not unprecedented.

Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

regardless of whether he is using or not and natural ability aside, as Miles has stated it is highly unusual for any athlete to move up in weight and keep the same speed - if not more so AND increase their power. It just doesn't happen.

Actually in boxing there are several historical examples. Jimmy McLarnin started at 112 and won the 147 crown with a KO1. Sam Langfrod began at 135 and KO'd HOF heavyweights. Mickey Walker began at lightweight and KO'd ranked heavies. George Carpentier fought in every division that existed.

It is rare, not unprecedented.

who?

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

regardless of whether he is using or not and natural ability aside, as Miles has stated it is highly unusual for any athlete to move up in weight and keep the same speed - if not more so AND increase their power. It just doesn't happen.

Actually in boxing there are several historical examples. Jimmy McLarnin started at 112 and won the 147 crown with a KO1. Sam Langfrod began at 135 and KO'd HOF heavyweights. Mickey Walker began at lightweight and KO'd ranked heavies. George Carpentier fought in every division that existed.

It is rare, not unprecedented.

who?

LOL, damn younguns don't know their history

McLarnin is a HOFer originally from Belfast. A legendary puncher from the 1930's. Langford is one of the greatest fighters of all time. A top ten guy. Over 200 wins including a dozen over HOFers. Fought from 1900-1920 or so. Best fighter never to get a title crack. Mickey Walker was the undisputed 147 and 160 king of the 1920's and 1930's. A top 20 guy all time. Carpentier is a Frenchman who once challenged Demspey for the heavyweight crown after WWI. The Message our navy sent to French ships at sea? "Your Frog flattened in fourth." Undisputed 175 king and HOFer.

What is important about these guys and this issue is steroids weren't even invented until the mid-late 1930's so this isn't evidence, it is proof what Manny has done is possible clean.

Kinda fucked that the yes option means "you've have always been anti-pacman"... that's bullshit. The behavior can make one suspicious but that doesn't mean one is anti...